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[Curious2]

Curious: Good advice from Budward but I'll add a few remarks. I've never tried auto-injectors because I want to be in control. I use 5/16 needles in most places because 1/2 have gone right through a corpus. Once I hit the urethra too and got blood out the pee-hole, but it's harmless, just a little alarming.

I think 5/16 are good for thin penises and 1/2 are for thick ones. So to tell whether you're in the corpus, two conditions must be met: No resistance when pushing the plunger, any more than if the needle were in air, AND no or very little pain when the liquid comes out of the needle. If these are not met, you could pull the needle out a little and try pushing the plunger again, or maybe it's not in far enough so push it in more. When you can't figure it out, pull out and try another spot.

Injecting's a little tricky, but you'll get it.

"1/2 have gone right through a corpus"! That doesn't sound good and hitting the urethra either.

So I'm trying to figure out how this injecting process is gonna fit in with love making. Say we are going through foreplay, getting all hot and bothered and now I have to say "excuse me". I have to go do something. Then I get the syringe. Alcohol wipe my penis. Do the injection. Wipe again. Hold pressure for 5 minutes. Yell out "I'll be back in a couple minutes"! Meanwhile, she's either taking care of business herself or getting impatient and giving up.

I'm sure I'll get it figured out.

[easymoney]

You get set up inject before foreplay .. shots never really worked for me but when we tried we did it like that ..most guys say the get an erection for an hour to 3 hrs so it's not like your going to run out of time ..

[Martin6469]

Yes, Amazon has plenty of syringes and maybe they'll ship to Virginia, no questions asked, hopefully. Our friend bldolnk says EasyTouch brand is the best, made in Korea, and he's right - very smooth plunger start.

I like the 31-gauge needles because they're thin enough for me to get between first- and second-layer skin nerves and get a painless injection. When starting, I walk the needle around until I feel no prick, then very slowly push in. If I hit a nerve in the second skin layer, I pull out and begin again. The tunica or corpus casing has no pain nerves, so pushing through it has no sensation.

So my wife and I negotiate our sex time ahead of time and she's used to waiting maybe 20 minutes for me to inject, because I go slowly. If you want to be impromptu, preload a syringe and keep it in the refrigerator. And you don't have to hold your shaft for five minutes - just squeeze and pump the entire shaft 6-8 times because the two corpora have a few fluid connections through which some Trimix can be pumped into the other corpus. This helps to insure a straight-ahead erection.

I have to disagree with Budward on one point: I've injected for eight years and have never frozen any Trimix. Several FT guys keep it frozen, but I don't see the need, especially if you're in a hurry.

[Curious2]

Yes, Amazon has plenty of syringes and maybe they'll ship to Virginia, no questions asked, hopefully. Our friend bldolnk says EasyTouch brand is the best, made in Korea, and he's right - very smooth plunger start.

I like the 31-gauge needles because they're thin enough for me to get between first- and second-layer skin nerves and get a painless injection. When starting, I walk the needle around until I feel no prick, then very slowly push in. If I hit a nerve in the second skin layer, I pull out and begin again. The tunica or corpus casing has no pain nerves, so pushing through it has no sensation.

So my wife and I negotiate our sex time ahead of time and she's used to waiting maybe 20 minutes for me to inject, because I go slowly. If you want to be impromptu, preload a syringe and keep it in the refrigerator. And you don't have to hold your shaft for five minutes - just squeeze and pump the entire shaft 6-8 times because the two corpora have a few fluid connections through which some Trimix can be pumped into the other corpus. This helps to insure a straight-ahead erection.

I have to disagree with Budward on one point: I've injected for eight years and have never frozen any Trimix. Several FT guys keep it frozen, but I don't see the need, especially if you're in a hurry.

I was looking on amazon and some other sites. Almost all of them say they won't ship to Va. I did find one brand that did allow me to make the purchase and I've received them already. They're made in China but individually wrapped and really smooth. I opened one up and checked it out.
Bad news is my shipment is delayed. The medicine was supposed to be here yesterday but now will sit in a warehouse until Monday. I hope the pharmacy put plenty of ice in the package. It was mailed on Thursday. So if I don't get it until Monday, that's 5 days in transit. I can't call the pharmacy today because they're closed on weekends.
You say I don't have to hold the shaft for 5 minutes but I read that was to stop the bleeding. Maybe 31 gauge is so small there isn't any bleeding??
Do you not keep any of your vials frozen?

[Budward]

You want to set yourself up just before your session. I have it down to about 3 minutes if I unfreeze my syringe before hand. Two to three in the VED and a few seconds to inject. So its like powdering your nose, excuse yourself to freshen up.

[bldoink]

You say I don't have to hold the shaft for 5 minutes but I read that was to stop the bleeding. Maybe 31 gauge is so small there isn't any bleeding??
Do you not keep any of your vials frozen?

I've never kept pressure on the injection site for 5 minutes. Probably a minute max, while I'm massaging in the mix. I certainly won't tell you to ignore medical advice. Yes, compress for 5 minutes!

I always keep my vials frozen.

[Martin6469]

Curious: No, I never freeze any Trimix. In fact, I've gone on seven-day vacations with Trimix on which no refrigeration was available, and it worked just the same. So I think your shipment will be ok if you get it early next week.

After injecting there's no bleeding that you have to stop unless you hit the urethra, or an artery or vein, and those are visible through your skin ahead of time, so just avoid them. If you inject outside the corpus, you'll get a hematoma, which is a sizable bruise, and this consists of red cells stuck in a bulging clump, which is then cleaned up over 5-7 days by white cells. (This is why you must follow my needle-in-the-corpus procedure.) But a hematoma is the closest thing to bleeding that I've ever had, and I sometimes use a 1/2 in. needle which is 30-gauge at one place where my corpus is deeper.

Well, I'm envious of Budward's size, and what it does in his wife! Curious, you seem to say that your size is closer to mine, so I'll give you my find-a-small-corpus technique: As I said, the corpora have no pain nerves, but curiously, they can feel my thumbnail as I use it to explore for their location. So if I want to inject in a right-side corpus, I hold the shaft in my left hand, presenting a slightly convex surface to the needle. I explore up and down the shaft with my right thumbnail tracing the corpus, which is not straight ahead like the medical diagrams, but has a meandering route, and it's at slightly different depths at differing locations.

This diagram is misleading in that it shows erect corpora, which look easy to hit. It recommends the "clock method" in which you imagine injecting between 1 and 3 o'clock on the right side and between 9 and 11 o'clock on the left side, but in my case that's a blind method because my corpora are so thin. Whatever method you use, stay away from "12 noon," because that's where the dorsal nerve is.

I inject the other side each time, changing position along the shaft, to spread out any needle damage. The fastest way to get to your correct dose is to keep a spreadsheet of all the injection parameters each time: amount, location, result, relative stiffness if any, duration, bruises, etc. I imagine my shaft divided into five zones, so I have ten injection locations, which I rotate through in case needle damage causes any problem, like scarring.

When I was learning, it took me three weeks to get it right, doing a solo practice session every three days. (Don't let her get her hopes up this month!) I started with double the doctor's office dose, which was 2 units, then went up maybe 15 percent each session. You want to avoid an over-four-hour erection, known as priapism. I was told that at the six-hour point tissue runs out of oxygen and gangrene begins. Before starting, get the antidote, phenylephrine capsules. This helps bring down a too-long erection; most guys take 100-150mg, but it works very slowly, because it has to go through your stomach and into the small intestine before it's absorbed. At Walgreens it's Wal-Phed PE and it's non-prescription but behind the counter and you have to sign for it. Also keep an ice pack handy. If you do get an erection that looks like it's going to exceed four hours, head to your ER where they will drain the blood and you will entertain the nurses. Q: "What's worse than ED?" A: "Getting your gangrenous penis cut off to save your life." If you have any doubt what your small starting dose should be, or how to read the syringe calibrations, ask us.

[Curious2]

You want to set yourself up just before your session. I have it down to about 3 minutes if I unfreeze my syringe before hand. Two to three in the VED and a few seconds to inject. So its like powdering your nose, excuse yourself to freshen up.

Good one Budward! "Freshen up"

[Curious2]

You say I don't have to hold the shaft for 5 minutes but I read that was to stop the bleeding. Maybe 31 gauge is so small there isn't any bleeding??
Do you not keep any of your vials frozen?

I've never kept pressure on the injection site for 5 minutes. Probably a minute max, while I'm massaging in the mix. I certainly won't tell you to ignore medical advice. Yes, compress for 5 minutes!

I always keep my vials frozen.

I hope I don't have to wait 5 minutes. Just what I've read. I'll find out soon.

[Budward]

You say I don't have to hold the shaft for 5 minutes but I read that was to stop the bleeding. Maybe 31 gauge is so small there isn't any bleeding??
Do you not keep any of your vials frozen?

I've never kept pressure on the injection site for 5 minutes. Probably a minute max, while I'm massaging in the mix. I certainly won't tell you to ignore medical advice. Yes, compress for 5 minutes!

I always keep my vials frozen.

I hope I don't have to wait 5 minutes. Just what I've read. I'll find out soon.

As I inject very slowly, I very really have any blood at all when I withdraw the needle, I put pressure on the spot for a very short time.