Thomas, If your getting good results with the 3 pills then sure why not try the Gel. Always good to have a backup.
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68 years old, Married 48 years. Prostate Cancer surgery 11 years ago. Tried Pills, VED, moved to injections (EdEx) for past 6 years. Implanted with AMS 700 LGX by Dr Hellstrom in New Orleans at Tulane Medical. 1/13/20
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Thomas,
Sorry I did not get a chance to advise you sooner on Trimix Gel. I haven't been logging in here as often as I should.
Anyways, as far as dosage goes, I would ALWAYS recommend the highest dose (1500/300/100) (all values are mcg -- not mcg/mg/mg like in injectable trimix ingredients).
Even at that level it might not be enough.
I use MUSE and occasionally use Gel and the MUSE 500 is about the same strength as Trimix Gel 1000 (Not sure why that is, delivery method, efficacy of ingredients?).
I have even added a Muse 500 with the Trimix 1000 and that was really about the best level you could get -- an hour or two and not much ache.
That leads into the idea of asking for a Custom Dosage Trimix-Gel. Don't. They list it, but they will NOT fill custom doses. The reason is that they only periodically prepare batches of Trimix-Gel - and that's it. When they run out they do another big batch. It is not like they are compounding each order for you and you alone.
Finally, since you are stuck with the lowest dose stuff and it is not working, you have a few options.
1: Supplement it with some MUSE if you have it (and don't even THINK about how much that erection costs!).
2: Mix two or three of your Trimix-Gels together and either do multiple splurts or mixed em all into one syringe.
( and definitely don't think about the price there -- yikes).
3: Since you said Viagra does some good you might be able to combine the two. Yeah the Docs say not to, but if you are adventurous ...
Hope that helps ...
J
Sorry I did not get a chance to advise you sooner on Trimix Gel. I haven't been logging in here as often as I should.
Anyways, as far as dosage goes, I would ALWAYS recommend the highest dose (1500/300/100) (all values are mcg -- not mcg/mg/mg like in injectable trimix ingredients).
Even at that level it might not be enough.
I use MUSE and occasionally use Gel and the MUSE 500 is about the same strength as Trimix Gel 1000 (Not sure why that is, delivery method, efficacy of ingredients?).
I have even added a Muse 500 with the Trimix 1000 and that was really about the best level you could get -- an hour or two and not much ache.
That leads into the idea of asking for a Custom Dosage Trimix-Gel. Don't. They list it, but they will NOT fill custom doses. The reason is that they only periodically prepare batches of Trimix-Gel - and that's it. When they run out they do another big batch. It is not like they are compounding each order for you and you alone.
Finally, since you are stuck with the lowest dose stuff and it is not working, you have a few options.
1: Supplement it with some MUSE if you have it (and don't even THINK about how much that erection costs!).
2: Mix two or three of your Trimix-Gels together and either do multiple splurts or mixed em all into one syringe.
( and definitely don't think about the price there -- yikes).
3: Since you said Viagra does some good you might be able to combine the two. Yeah the Docs say not to, but if you are adventurous ...
Hope that helps ...
J
Last edited by JimStars on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
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I have recently "experimented" with Tri-Mix gel (1500/300/100 dose). And fortunately my insurance did cover $100 of the $139 total cost. However, Tri-Mix alone did not have much effect. Then I combined a dose with Cialis daily dose. That was better. Then I got real crazy and mixed double dose of gel, 50mg Viagra, and herbal supplement containing yohimbe/horny goat weed/tribulus, etc That turned out very good, but with some side effects (runny nose, slight headache). I also had some chills but actually kind of enjoyed that.
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drobert14 wrote:I have recently "experimented" with Tri-Mix gel (1500/300/100 dose). And fortunately my insurance did cover $100 of the $139 total cost. However, Tri-Mix alone did not have much effect. Then I combined a dose with Cialis daily dose. That was better. Then I got real crazy and mixed double dose of gel, 50mg Viagra, and herbal supplement containing yohimbe/horny goat weed/tribulus, etc That turned out very good, but with some side effects (runny nose, slight headache). I also had some chills but actually kind of enjoyed that.
Now that's what I call Adventures In Erections thru Chemistry! I also noticed that they have changed their 3 standard doses to 500 1000 and 1500. I like to think I am responsible for that since I did try to get a 1500 custom dose last september and at that time they said they don't do custom. I was disappointed.
Now I did try one 1500-300-100 splurt. (no added Big-3 ED drug except for a Viagra 6 hrs before).
I would say it was about the same effect as the old 1000-300-100 dose on the first try -- some wood for 30 mins maybe .. but nothing to write home about.
Will see what happens with the rest over time .. maybe will add a not-too-tight ring to keep the trimix from flushing out of penis .. that can work.
J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
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Here is an idea for the brave of heart .. wreckless of heart .. or just CrazyHeart .. for Trimix Gel..
After reading that the Trimix Gel people (American Pharm) also make kits up of just plain FreezeDried Trimix for injection (which is the basic ingredient of Trimix Gel -- minus the Gel) I decided to try an experiment and dissolved the FreezeDried trimix from one stick of Gel (minus the Gel) in a 30 ml vial of bacteriastatic water ( or more accurately drew out some water, dissolved the Trimix and then injected the concentrate back into the vial -- pretty well germ-free method as used by any other mix-it-yourself medications.
At any rate with a 1500PGE/300Pap/100Phen (mcg for all three) Trimix dose, that made a 50/10/3.3 mcg/ml strength of injectable Trimix. Pretty strong on the Prostaglandin-1 (usual is 5, 10 or 20mcg/ml) and very weak on the Papaverine/Phen (usually in the 10s of MG values) but that is OK since those last two are the ingredients that are more likely to cause Fibrosis as I understand it.
At around .20cc per inject it works fine for 3+ hours with almost no ache (except the Good Ache of rock hard erection).
At that rate a 30 ml vial will last practically forever and the cost per injection is around 50 cents each -- including alcohol wipe, Syringe, Trimix and Vial. An Amazing cost per inject well below anything else you can possibly find anywhere.
So call me crazy, but working like a charm for over a month now with plenty of test shots.
J
After reading that the Trimix Gel people (American Pharm) also make kits up of just plain FreezeDried Trimix for injection (which is the basic ingredient of Trimix Gel -- minus the Gel) I decided to try an experiment and dissolved the FreezeDried trimix from one stick of Gel (minus the Gel) in a 30 ml vial of bacteriastatic water ( or more accurately drew out some water, dissolved the Trimix and then injected the concentrate back into the vial -- pretty well germ-free method as used by any other mix-it-yourself medications.
At any rate with a 1500PGE/300Pap/100Phen (mcg for all three) Trimix dose, that made a 50/10/3.3 mcg/ml strength of injectable Trimix. Pretty strong on the Prostaglandin-1 (usual is 5, 10 or 20mcg/ml) and very weak on the Papaverine/Phen (usually in the 10s of MG values) but that is OK since those last two are the ingredients that are more likely to cause Fibrosis as I understand it.
At around .20cc per inject it works fine for 3+ hours with almost no ache (except the Good Ache of rock hard erection).
At that rate a 30 ml vial will last practically forever and the cost per injection is around 50 cents each -- including alcohol wipe, Syringe, Trimix and Vial. An Amazing cost per inject well below anything else you can possibly find anywhere.
So call me crazy, but working like a charm for over a month now with plenty of test shots.
J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
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Tri-mix gel didn't do much for me, barely any engorgement and lots of burning. It didn't seem to matter how much I used it just burned more and for a longer period. I even did two syringes once with no success. At $25 a syringe I quickly gave up on it and it also needed refrigeration.
I have had great success with the bi-mix injectable(with a needle). The lack of PGE eliminated the burning and give good wood so I won't be using the gel anymore.
I have had great success with the bi-mix injectable(with a needle). The lack of PGE eliminated the burning and give good wood so I won't be using the gel anymore.
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JimStars wrote:Here is an idea for the brave of heart .. wreckless of heart .. or just CrazyHeart .. for Trimix Gel..
After reading that the Trimix Gel people (American Pharm) also make kits up of just plain FreezeDried Trimix for injection (which is the basic ingredient of Trimix Gel -- minus the Gel) I decided to try an experiment and dissolved the FreezeDried trimix from one stick of Gel (minus the Gel) in a 30 ml vial of bacteriastatic water ( or more accurately drew out some water, dissolved the Trimix and then injected the concentrate back into the vial -- pretty well germ-free method as used by any other mix-it-yourself medications.
At any rate with a 1500PGE/300Pap/100Phen (mcg for all three) Trimix dose, that made a 50/10/3.3 mcg/ml strength of injectable Trimix. Pretty strong on the Prostaglandin-1 (usual is 5, 10 or 20mcg/ml) and very weak on the Papaverine/Phen (usually in the 10s of MG values) but that is OK since those last two are the ingredients that are more likely to cause Fibrosis as I understand it.
At around .20cc per inject it works fine for 3+ hours with almost no ache (except the Good Ache of rock hard erection).
J
I tried this out with 1500/300/100 dose dissolved in 30ml bacteriostatic water and injected .50cc and had very little effect. So for my next test to find my ideal dose, should I just inject more cc of what I have already mixed, or, should I add another "tube" of powder and inject the same cc.
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Robert,
Ai-yi-yi .... You are a crazy one.
What ever possessed you to try 50 units?? -- You do realize that the dosage (of PGE-1) in this mix is
2.5 times the strength of the strongest regular Trimix you get compounded (20 mcg/ml Pge-1) (and guys get away with 5 10 or 20 units of that strength). You are surely dumb-ass lucky you did not have a trip to the ER with like aN 8 hour exploding erection. I use 20-25 units and that easily goes for 3+ hours and there has never been a miss for me -- each inject at that level is 110% effective.
That said, can't quite understand why 50 units had little effect for you. I guess the obvious question is you tossed/flushed the 'Gel' part right?? Just dissolved the powder right? And got it all back into the vial - every drop?
Well, just take care on the 50+ units -- could be playing with fire -- in case you suddenly hit the right spot.
Glad you gave it a try tho -- now we have a couple of base-lines for people to work from in the future.
J
Ai-yi-yi .... You are a crazy one.
What ever possessed you to try 50 units?? -- You do realize that the dosage (of PGE-1) in this mix is
2.5 times the strength of the strongest regular Trimix you get compounded (20 mcg/ml Pge-1) (and guys get away with 5 10 or 20 units of that strength). You are surely dumb-ass lucky you did not have a trip to the ER with like aN 8 hour exploding erection. I use 20-25 units and that easily goes for 3+ hours and there has never been a miss for me -- each inject at that level is 110% effective.
That said, can't quite understand why 50 units had little effect for you. I guess the obvious question is you tossed/flushed the 'Gel' part right?? Just dissolved the powder right? And got it all back into the vial - every drop?
Well, just take care on the 50+ units -- could be playing with fire -- in case you suddenly hit the right spot.
Glad you gave it a try tho -- now we have a couple of base-lines for people to work from in the future.
J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
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JimStars wrote:Robert,
Ai-yi-yi .... You are a crazy one.
What ever possessed you to try 50 units?? -- You do realize that the dosage (of PGE-1) in this mix is
2.5 times the strength of the strongest regular Trimix you get compounded (20 mcg/ml Pge-1) (and guys get away with 5 10 or 20 units of that strength). You are surely dumb-ass lucky you did not have a trip to the ER with like aN 8 hour exploding erection. I use 20-25 units and that easily goes for 3+ hours and there has never been a miss for me -- each inject at that level is 110% effective.
That said, can't quite understand why 50 units had little effect for you. I guess the obvious question is you tossed/flushed the 'Gel' part right?? Just dissolved the powder right? And got it all back into the vial - every drop?
Well, just take care on the 50+ units -- could be playing with fire -- in case you suddenly hit the right spot.
Glad you gave it a try tho -- now we have a couple of base-lines for people to work from in the future.
J
Thanks for the concern.
Maybe I'm confused about dosing. In my reading I have seen PGE-1 formulas up to 50mcg/ml strength and maximum 100 units.
I was thinking that a PGE-1 at 50mcg/ml at .5cc is equivalent to injecting 25mcg? Like cutting a 100mg Viagra in half for a 50mg dose??
I think it is confusing when reading about Tri-Mix because the strength per dose is not always clearly stated.
But I did carefully dissolve the powder and discard the "gel" and pretty sure I'm hitting the right spot. I have injected before with Tri-Mix obtained through a "male medical clinic" and that was a 1ml dose (though I never was able to determine the strength).
So, while I won't be going back to the "male medical clinic" for various reasons, I probably should stop the self-experiments and find a good urologist to help me find the right combination of ingredients and strength/dose. I convinced my "family doctor" to prescribe the Tri-Mix gel but don't think injection therapy is within their expertise.
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Robert,
Your reasoning is sound concerning the strengths of this mixture (50 mcg/PGE-1/ml).
But the normal Trimix (compounded) is 5, 10 or 20 mcg of PGE-1 per ml (plus the Pap and Phen) and no one hardly ever uses more that 5-20 units
injected of those -- a few I have seen at 50 units. That means actual PGE-1 per injection is pretty tiny in any of those injection amounts).
So I can now see why you thought 50 units (25mcg PGE-1) was a conservative amount based on your possible 100 unit injects (and wow you use up a vial really quick at that rate??). Maybe for you it is a good amount, but not for everyone else!
I suppose just keep carrying on -- whatever it takes. Just keep the Sudafed handy.
J
Your reasoning is sound concerning the strengths of this mixture (50 mcg/PGE-1/ml).
But the normal Trimix (compounded) is 5, 10 or 20 mcg of PGE-1 per ml (plus the Pap and Phen) and no one hardly ever uses more that 5-20 units
injected of those -- a few I have seen at 50 units. That means actual PGE-1 per injection is pretty tiny in any of those injection amounts).
So I can now see why you thought 50 units (25mcg PGE-1) was a conservative amount based on your possible 100 unit injects (and wow you use up a vial really quick at that rate??). Maybe for you it is a good amount, but not for everyone else!
I suppose just keep carrying on -- whatever it takes. Just keep the Sudafed handy.
J
Last edited by JimStars on Tue May 17, 2011 12:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.
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