How many pumps? Length? Etc.

[jonbaldbg]

Emailed my surgeon today. He's so good about Email. I usually have an answer within 10 minutes (unless he's in surgery of course.

I'd been reading about guys who inflate twice a day for 1-2 hours. My doc says he believes that 5-10 minutes or so should be good. The key is to pump up as far as you can get it to pump. Then wait a bit and pump more to push the cylinders larger.
He says this is the best way to gain girth and length. He said it will be uncomfortable up to 3 months.

So, I plan to inflate twice daily, morning and night according to those instructions and probably leave it up for 15 minutes. Sounds reasonable, no?

[David_R]

I have not regained the 1/2to 3/4 inch I lost after prostate surgery.

I was in a prostate cancer support group years ago, and all of us who had had the surgery (which was most of us) reported that we had lost an inch. (And since I was the only one with an implant, I was sure that it was the radical prostatectomy rather than the implant that caused the loss of an inch.)

[jonbaldbg]

I have not regained the 1/2to 3/4 inch I lost after prostate surgery.

I was in a prostate cancer support group years ago, and all of us who had had the surgery (which was most of us) reported that we had lost an inch. (And since I was the only one with an implant, I was sure that it was the radical prostatectomy rather than the implant that caused the loss of an inch.)

My cause was ED and Peyronies. My doctor too great care to use the absolutely longest cylinders possible for my situation and he used LGX which expands in length. He assures me I will get my length back.

Several of the guys on this board have also said after 6 months they had their length back. I'm definitely hoping for it.

[Slayer1962]

I pump twice fully then half a dozen small pumps. It gets rock hard the pump

[jonbaldbg]

I pump twice fully then half a dozen small pumps. It gets rock hard the pump

Hey Slayer1962, Has it been like that since the beginning? I pump fairly slowly, making sure I completely depress the pump and allow it plenty of time to refill. I can pump three sessions of 15 each and still not get a marble. I'm not sure exactly why because I have a fairly small dick so I can't have that much area to fill. But, in spite of all this, after I inflate it gets pretty uncomfortable telling me that I'm pushing the current stretch plenty. So I guess I'm OK.

Tonight, I'm going to try to completely pump as far as I can, then wait a minute and pump some more. I'm told by my doc that this is the way to regain maximum girth and length. He also says to leave it up 5-10 minutes, that's enough.

I guess there are a million different ways to do this.

[alibaba]

David_R , I lost 1 1/2 when I had the prostatectomy. Lost another 1 1/4 with the implant. Wife is NOT happy about it nor am I. Surgeon Kibel who removed my prostate told my wife my bladder kept floating up giving them problems making the connection so they pulled the bladder down, stapled it to my rectum and then pulled part of my penis inside.
This morning I had a few minutes to kill getting ready for my first appointment and had read this thread. Tried the pumps some people claim here and made extra effort (both hands) to make sure they were solid wall to wall pumps.
10 pumps 5:30
15 pumps still 5:30
30 pumps about 4:00 and still very soft.
54 pumps 3:00
73 pumps 2:00 73rd pump I could not quite get a full bulb.
I measured length as that was part of this thread.
Flaccid through 18 pumps 5 1/2"
30 pumps 6"
Beyond 30 pumps it starts getting shorter again. I think it is because of the pubic area standing out as the tubing stiffens.
73 pumps 5 3/8" was the most I could measure.
Keep in mind, without drilling a bolt into your pubic bone so you have a solid fixed object to measure from that never moves, all you can do is best measure.

[merrix]

Emailed my surgeon today. He's so good about Email. I usually have an answer within 10 minutes (unless he's in surgery of course.

I'd been reading about guys who inflate twice a day for 1-2 hours. My doc says he believes that 5-10 minutes or so should be good. The key is to pump up as far as you can get it to pump. Then wait a bit and pump more to push the cylinders larger.
He says this is the best way to gain girth and length. He said it will be uncomfortable up to 3 months.

So, I plan to inflate twice daily, morning and night according to those instructions and probably leave it up for 15 minutes. Sounds reasonable, no?

That is basically what I did for the first 6-8 months. Or even less actually. Most weeks I probably did what you describe 10 times per week. Meaning one or two times per day. Never had the time to walk around with a hardon for an hour every morning and every night...
In my case it seemed to work very well. As I have said before, I claim to have a slightly longer dick now than before surgery. And I understand some of you will call that bullshit, but that's ok, I would probably have had a hard time believing anyone saying that as well.

My doc, Dr. Eid, was not overly enthusiastic about aggressive cycling strategies. He was putting a lot of emphasis on starting to inflate/deflate early, as soon as ever possible after surgery. I saw with my own eyes one of his patients inflating on day 4 after surgery. This was according to Eid not unusual, even though sooner than normal.
He activated me 13 days post op. It hurted pretty badly, yes, but already at the second or third inflation pain was almost non existing. Early activation is according to him (if I remember right after 11 months), key to avoid scar tissue build up and potential loss of size.
Regarding long-term daily cycling, he basically said that it is a good idea to pump it up 1-2 times per day for up to 30 minutes till the level where it gets uncomfortable (not painful) in the early days, a few weeks. After that, using it for sex twice per week is all that is needed. Anything more than that has no beneficial impact on size, but a potentially negative impact on time till failure of the implant.

Personally, this is something I can't really make up my mind about. Should I keep cycling the implant daily now (11 months post-op) or just inflate when using it? Don't know... Maybe there is a size gaining effect. Maybe there isn't.
Furthermore, my wife does not want my dick to grow one single millimetres larger, she thinks it is borderline too big already.
And I do believe 100% that more frequent usage leads to earlier breakdown and more frequent revisions. Any mechanical device in the whole world will break down sooner with more frequent use. So I am sure that goes for an implant as well.
The simple answer to my question would be to just listen to Eid. Everything he ever told me before surgery has come true. Everything. So why would I not trust him on this as well..?

[alibaba]

merrix, I can relate with your wife. When I was young with 9 erect inches the end would hit her cervix with every stroke if I was not careful. Not to comfortable for either of us. With 7 1/4" that was zero issue. The only think I had to keep on my mind then was trying to keep it hard and satisfy her before it wasn't hard.

I've not had too much time to pump so I pump it to the max when I go to bed and leave it that way till I have to get up and pee 3 hours later. Sometimes I will pump it up again the 3rd time I get up to pee and leave it that way till I get up. Nolonger can lay on my stomach with it pointed up. Things have changed and it is very uncomfortable now.

One thing was clear yesterday morning when I was recording the numbers for this survey. The rt cylinder gets longer and fatter. The left stays the same size which contributes to the bend. Scar tissue keeps it from expanding? Odd that I have always been distracted by something else and never watched the inflation process itself.

[jonbaldbg]

Emailed my surgeon today. He's so good about Email. I usually have an answer within 10 minutes (unless he's in surgery of course.

I'd been reading about guys who inflate twice a day for 1-2 hours. My doc says he believes that 5-10 minutes or so should be good. The key is to pump up as far as you can get it to pump. Then wait a bit and pump more to push the cylinders larger.
He says this is the best way to gain girth and length. He said it will be uncomfortable up to 3 months.

So, I plan to inflate twice daily, morning and night according to those instructions and probably leave it up for 15 minutes. Sounds reasonable, no?

That is basically what I did for the first 6-8 months. Or even less actually. Most weeks I probably did what you describe 10 times per week. Meaning one or two times per day. Never had the time to walk around with a hardon for an hour every morning and every night...
In my case it seemed to work very well. As I have said before, I claim to have a slightly longer dick now than before surgery. And I understand some of you will call that bullshit, but that's ok, I would probably have had a hard time believing anyone saying that as well.

My doc, Dr. Eid, was not overly enthusiastic about aggressive cycling strategies. He was putting a lot of emphasis on starting to inflate/deflate early, as soon as ever possible after surgery. I saw with my own eyes one of his patients inflating on day 4 after surgery. This was according to Eid not unusual, even though sooner than normal.
He activated me 13 days post op. It hurted pretty badly, yes, but already at the second or third inflation pain was almost non existing. Early activation is according to him (if I remember right after 11 months), key to avoid scar tissue build up and potential loss of size.
Regarding long-term daily cycling, he basically said that it is a good idea to pump it up 1-2 times per day for up to 30 minutes till the level where it gets uncomfortable (not painful) in the early days, a few weeks. After that, using it for sex twice per week is all that is needed. Anything more than that has no beneficial impact on size, but a potentially negative impact on time till failure of the implant.

Personally, this is something I can't really make up my mind about. Should I keep cycling the implant daily now (11 months post-op) or just inflate when using it? Don't know... Maybe there is a size gaining effect. Maybe there isn't.
Furthermore, my wife does not want my dick to grow one single millimetres larger, she thinks it is borderline too big already.
And I do believe 100% that more frequent usage leads to earlier breakdown and more frequent revisions. Any mechanical device in the whole world will break down sooner with more frequent use. So I am sure that goes for an implant as well.
The simple answer to my question would be to just listen to Eid. Everything he ever told me before surgery has come true. Everything. So why would I not trust him on this as well..?

Dr. Kramer said I would regain my size in 6 months and at one year could have an additional 20%, so maybe I'll end up with a bigger dick too. In my case, that's not a bad thing!! Sounds like Kramer and Eid (the two biggies) agree about the lack of need to keep an hour's inflation. However, I don't think I could have stood cycling at 13 days post-op. And Dr. Kramer does not say the same thing about the scar tissue. He thinks it is a lot longer time before you have to worry about scar tissue. He said you won't develop scar tissue for many many months down the road. In the old days they used to stay deflated 3-6 months because the surgery was so traumatic and recovery time so long. I agree with trusting your doctor, that is what I plan to do, follow the doctor's instructions. I haven't yet asked when to quit cycling, but I'm sure I need to continue at least 6 months.

[dg_moore]

This is an interesting discussion. When I got my implant in 2008 Dr Kramer mentioned nothing at all either verbally or in my discharge instructions about any inflation protocol. In any case, I didn't lose any length (I have not had prostatectomy).