AMS vs Coloplast questions

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Donnie1954 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:43 am

Larry,
I don't think you'll ever regret getting an AMS. I love mine and I couldn't be more pleased with the results. Blessings brother,
Donnie
Implant AMS 700 CX, MS (18cm x 12mm with 5.5cm RTEs) on 10\4\16. 64 Dr. Edward Kata of Orlando. Awesome surgeon. Check out, 'DD Bryan. My implant journey, Wit and Wisdom, Stretching routine, Implant Pics, Natural Hang. Live in Ga.
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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Donnie1954 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:05 pm

Some guys swear by Titan others by AMS. If you got a dick that works. Don't worry be happy!
Donnie
Implant AMS 700 CX, MS (18cm x 12mm with 5.5cm RTEs) on 10\4\16. 64 Dr. Edward Kata of Orlando. Awesome surgeon. Check out, 'DD Bryan. My implant journey, Wit and Wisdom, Stretching routine, Implant Pics, Natural Hang. Live in Ga.
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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby TANGERINE » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:55 pm

There is an article which used questionnaires for patient satisfaction. The good news, patients and their partners were happy with both implants !! So you are OK with either !!!!

Comparison of the patient and partner satisfaction with 700CX and Titan penile prostheses
Javier Romero Otero, et al

Most widespread three‐component penile prosthesis models are 700CXTM and Titan®. Our purpose is to assess patient and partner satisfaction after the first implant. This is a multicenter, retrospective, nonrandomized study in which all patients who met the inclusion criteria between 2009 and 2013 were included. In total, 248 patients agreed to participate. To evaluate patient satisfaction, a validated but modified 11‐question questionnaire was completed (EDITS); and a nonvalidated two‐item questionnaire was given to the partner. Statistical analysis used an ordinal logistic regression model. Two hundred and forty‐eight patients (194 with 700CXTM vs 54 with Titan®) and 207 couples completed the questionnaire (165 with 700CXTM vs 42 with Titan®). Overall satisfaction was high. Both showed great reliability for sexual intercourse and high compliance with prior expectations. Most patients were able to manage the penile prosthesis correctly within 6 months. Postoperative penile shortening led to some dissatisfaction in 42% and 46% of cases (700CXTM/Titan®). Significant differences were found in three questions of patients’ questionnaire. There were more patients satisfied with the 700CXTM (P = 0.0001). No patient with Titan® implant took longer than 6 months to optimal management. Only 4% of patients with 700CXTM implant were dissatisfied with the deflation, in contrast to 24% with the Titan® (P = 0.0031). Of the two partners’ questions, one showed a statistically significant difference (P = 0.0026). It seems that group 700CXTM would recommend to re‐implant the prosthesis with a greater tendency. The overall satisfaction was very high for both prostheses. The final aspect of the erected and flaccid penis was satisfactory, but both groups showed significant discontent with its final size. Partners’ overall satisfaction was high.


REFERENCE: Asian Journal of Andrology (2017) 19, 321–325; doi: 10.4103/1008-682X.172822; published online: 22 January 2016

CONCLUSIONS
Given the data in this study, it can be said that in the best possible scenario for a PP implant, the overall satisfaction is very high for both types of prosthesis. And while both groups found the final appearance of the penis, when erects and especially when flaccids, to be satisfactory, both showed significant discontent with its final size. The vast majority of the patients could manage the prosthesis within 6 months or less, and the degree of satisfaction of the partners is high. However, the optimal management of the 700CXTM took longer than with the Titan®, and the dissatisfaction with the deflation was higher with the Titan®.



REFEERENCE:
http://www.ajandrology.com/temp/AsianJAndrol193321-5287427_144114.pdf
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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Tybeeman » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:09 pm

Here is a girth comparison.

Titan vs AMS.jpg
Titan vs AMS.jpg (53.56 KiB) Viewed 2053 times
PC at age 56
RALP on 2/16
Implant on 6/26/2017 Doctor Tariq Hakky
Coloplast Titan OTR, 22cm with 1 cm RTE

Larry10625

Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Larry10625 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:24 pm

ddbryan1972 wrote:Some guys swear by Titan others by AMS. If you got a dick that works. Don't worry be happy!
Donnie


I still say they need a "Like" button on here.. :)

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Larry10625 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:32 pm

TANGERINE wrote:There is an article which used questionnaires for patient satisfaction. The good news, patients and their partners were happy with both implants !! So you are OK with either !!!!

Comparison of the patient and partner satisfaction with 700CX and Titan penile prostheses
Javier Romero Otero, et al

Most widespread three‐component penile prosthesis models are 700CXTM and Titan®. Our purpose is to assess patient and partner satisfaction after the first implant. This is a multicenter, retrospective, nonrandomized study in which all patients who met the inclusion criteria between 2009 and 2013 were included. In total, 248 patients agreed to participate. To evaluate patient satisfaction, a validated but modified 11‐question questionnaire was completed (EDITS); and a nonvalidated two‐item questionnaire was given to the partner. Statistical analysis used an ordinal logistic regression model. Two hundred and forty‐eight patients (194 with 700CXTM vs 54 with Titan®) and 207 couples completed the questionnaire (165 with 700CXTM vs 42 with Titan®). Overall satisfaction was high. Both showed great reliability for sexual intercourse and high compliance with prior expectations. Most patients were able to manage the penile prosthesis correctly within 6 months. Postoperative penile shortening led to some dissatisfaction in 42% and 46% of cases (700CXTM/Titan®). Significant differences were found in three questions of patients’ questionnaire. There were more patients satisfied with the 700CXTM (P = 0.0001). No patient with Titan® implant took longer than 6 months to optimal management. Only 4% of patients with 700CXTM implant were dissatisfied with the deflation, in contrast to 24% with the Titan® (P = 0.0031). Of the two partners’ questions, one showed a statistically significant difference (P = 0.0026). It seems that group 700CXTM would recommend to re‐implant the prosthesis with a greater tendency. The overall satisfaction was very high for both prostheses. The final aspect of the erected and flaccid penis was satisfactory, but both groups showed significant discontent with its final size. Partners’ overall satisfaction was high.


REFERENCE: Asian Journal of Andrology (2017) 19, 321–325; doi: 10.4103/1008-682X.172822; published online: 22 January 2016

CONCLUSIONS
Given the data in this study, it can be said that in the best possible scenario for a PP implant, the overall satisfaction is very high for both types of prosthesis. And while both groups found the final appearance of the penis, when erects and especially when flaccids, to be satisfactory, both showed significant discontent with its final size. The vast majority of the patients could manage the prosthesis within 6 months or less, and the degree of satisfaction of the partners is high. However, the optimal management of the 700CXTM took longer than with the Titan®, and the dissatisfaction with the deflation was higher with the Titan®.



REFEERENCE:
http://www.ajandrology.com/temp/AsianJAndrol193321-5287427_144114.pdf



Tangerine, thanks for posting this article, I found it very interesting and there are a few others on here that will as well. My Dr. didn't discuss differences, in fact, I didn't know there were more than one type until after surgery when I became a member of this forum. Having said that, I had a very complicated case with a urologist and a plastic surgeon both working on me at the same time and I told both of them, "Fix this screw up from the doctors before however you have to". I basically gave them the green light to do whatever they wanted to. I trusted both of them very much so I was happy with most of the outcome. Now I have to wait until November to try again. Good thing my wife is patient.

Larry

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Larry10625 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:35 pm

Tybeeman wrote:Here is a girth comparison.

Titan vs AMS.jpg



Holy shit, that is 42 mm if you go with the biggest Titan, plus the distance between the two cylinders. :o

Larry

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby Tybeeman » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:55 pm

Larry10625 wrote:
Tybeeman wrote:Here is a girth comparison.

Titan vs AMS.jpg



Holy shit, that is 42 mm if you go with the biggest Titan, plus the distance between the two cylinders. :o

Larry


That is only an inch and a half
PC at age 56
RALP on 2/16
Implant on 6/26/2017 Doctor Tariq Hakky
Coloplast Titan OTR, 22cm with 1 cm RTE

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby ThePlumber1964 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:17 pm

Tybeeman wrote:Here is a girth comparison.

Titan vs AMS.jpg

Great diagram!!! Thanks for sharing it.
54 years old, happily married for 30 years to a beautiful & outstanding lady. Onset ED at 49. Finally fixed on 11/08/2017 by the master Dr. Eid with a Titan XL 26, no RTEs! Previously had 3 AMS implants (LGX & CX), all botched.

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Re: AMS vs Coloplast questions

Postby TANGERINE » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:50 pm

Thank You for the diagram. When I had a consultation with Dr Karpman (great implant surgeon), we discussed the Coloplast Titan versus the AMS LGX. He mentioned his you tube video (I had seen it, FrankTalk has nicknamed the video "the horse" -- you can find it on you tube with search words "karpman penile implant demonstration" on you tube.

Dr. Karpman stated the folloeing:

1) He really likes the beautiful flaccid appearance of the AMS. (looks really natural) The coloplast can look like you have a "semi erection" when you walk around the locker room naked --- so guys might look at you a little funny (apparently, this does not happen for everyone, but this does seem to be the case for me 4 months out)
2) He says the pump is larger with AMS, so easier for some guys to deal with inflation and deflation
3) He says that you can feel the "krinkles" of the heavier coloplast tubes when the coloplast is totally defalted.
4) He acknowledged that the diameters are different and said, "yup, 18mm versus 22mm" (just like the diagram shown earlier in this thread). But then he said, "you know though, I am not sure that everyone inflates their implants to the max anyway, so that size difference might not be important."

So, what I take from this, is it depends a little bit on what your sex partner can handle. If she has a pussy that is not very stretchy, the COLOPLAST might be uncomfortable. My wife was pretty up-front before implant in that she wanted big girth. She also has stated that she "really likes a hard penis."

So for me, I made the decision with my "little head below the belt" which stated "Stupid TANGERINE, go for the hardest biggest dick you can get, and forget about anything else"

And, so I went for the Titan

TANGERINE

PS: Karpman really does believe that the AMS LGX is superior --- so those of you with AMS, be happy.
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(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."


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