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dcmusc
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Natural Function

Postby dcmusc » Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:38 am

So I have seen comments from a number of guys that relate to either auto inflating or maintaining nightly erections post implant.

Just wondering, for those that had some function when you implanted, are you retaining anything, especially if you are not dilated, or are these just functions of the implant.

I know that glad engorgement is maintained because it is a separate system, but just wondering.

Feel like I have evaluated every single aspect of the implant over the last six weeks. Can't wait for my first all nighter.
56. Implanted 8/23/17 by Dr. Kramer. AMS LGX 700 21cm + 2. Developed a leak. Revised to Titan 24cm 5/20/20 by Dr. McGraw in Las Vegas.

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Re: Natural Function

Postby Donnie1954 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:05 am

I get a rise when I'm horney. Not enough for sex, but a definite rise and stiff. I've heard the implant helps with venous leakage problems.
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Re: Natural Function

Postby LMCatman » Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:40 am

I get "the feeling" when I'm horny but show little or no observable physical indicators (other than a dumb grin possibly) ...... I usually pump up at bedtime and sleep erect..... I love touching it as it feels like a dick and not the limp little noodle I had post RP.....
73 Years old. RP Oct 2010, No erections after, Botched Titan implant April, 2013, Successful Titan revision, April , 2014 by Dr. Paul Perito, Miami. Titan failure Feb 2017. Rev. by Dr Perito March 1st, 2017. Titan failure Nov 2020. New Titan January 2021

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Re: Natural Function

Postby dcmusc » Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:20 pm

Thanks guys. Good info. I talked to Kramer about this. The plan is not to dilate, so in theory, I will retain a percentage of my current function. It may seem silly, but having some of those same sensations will kind of help me transition to using the implant.
56. Implanted 8/23/17 by Dr. Kramer. AMS LGX 700 21cm + 2. Developed a leak. Revised to Titan 24cm 5/20/20 by Dr. McGraw in Las Vegas.

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Re: Natural Function

Postby sliphill » Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:02 pm

dcmusc wrote:Thanks guys. Good info. I talked to Kramer about this. The plan is not to dilate, so in theory, I will retain a percentage of my current function. It may seem silly, but having some of those same sensations will kind of help me transition to using the implant.


What does it mean not to dilate?
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Implanted by Dr. Michael O'Neill in Charlotte, NC on 6/9/2017 with AMS 700LGX. 18 cm cylinders 3 cm RTE's.

Revision done by Dr. Maxim McKibbon in Charlotte, NC on 4/12/2023 with AMD 700 LGX 22 cm cylinders gm

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Re: Natural Function

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:14 am

Find these two articles, especially good to read the full text. One impotent man was able to achieve penetrative sex without inflation of his implant (the investigators speculate because the erectile tissue was still intact and his venous leakage was slowed by the position of the implant sufficient for his arterial flow to make an erection)

in 2002,
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12904800

Spontaneous tumescence after implantation of three-piece hydraulic penile prostheses: a short-term experience

M Manning1, F J Martínez, P Alken3 and K-P Jünemann2

Department of Urology, University Hospital of the Christian-Albrechts-University, D-24105 Kiel, Germany.

in 2010
Inflatable penile prosthesis implantation without corporeal dilation: a cavernous tissue sparing technique

J Urol. 2010 Mar;183(3):1123-6. doi: 10.1016/j.juro.2009.11.048. Epub 2010 Jan 21.
Inflatable penile prosthesis implantation without corporeal dilation: a cavernous tissue sparing technique.
Moncada I1, Martínez-Salamanca JI, Jara J, Cabello R, Moralejo M, Hernández C.
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Re: Natural Function

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:17 am

sliphill wrote:
dcmusc wrote:Thanks guys. Good info. I talked to Kramer about this. The plan is not to dilate, so in theory, I will retain a percentage of my current function. It may seem silly, but having some of those same sensations will kind of help me transition to using the implant.


What does it mean not to dilate?


Agressive dilation damages the corpus cavernosum sometimes to the po0int that it does not get erect at all anyu more. Some surgeons actually use a surgical tool to remove all the cavernosum tissue, leaving ONLY the implant as the source of erection.

This does not, of course, remove any corpus spongiosum which is outside the tunica albuginea. The spongiosum (I think) can provide some degree of fullness, but not stiffness. But I am a layman, so take that last sentence as my speculation.
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Re: Natural Function

Postby David_R » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:00 am

I like the fact that my glans is engorged (swollen up) when I'm aroused, and my shaft is "fuller" (for lack of a better word) as well. The implant, of course, makes it hard enough to penetrate and enjoy everything. ;)

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Re: Natural Function

Postby sliphill » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:00 pm

Lost Sheep wrote:
sliphill wrote:
dcmusc wrote:Thanks guys. Good info. I talked to Kramer about this. The plan is not to dilate, so in theory, I will retain a percentage of my current function. It may seem silly, but having some of those same sensations will kind of help me transition to using the implant.


What does it mean not to dilate?


Agressive dilation damages the corpus cavernosum sometimes to the po0int that it does not get erect at all anyu more. Some surgeons actually use a surgical tool to remove all the cavernosum tissue, leaving ONLY the implant as the source of erection.

This does not, of course, remove any corpus spongiosum which is outside the tunica albuginea. The spongiosum (I think) can provide some degree of fullness, but not stiffness. But I am a layman, so take that last sentence as my speculation.


I was wondering about this. How in the heck would the cylinders fit in there if they didn't remove something. I don't know if my doctor used this tool or not. Maybe I don't want to know.
Ed (sliphill) 68

Implanted by Dr. Michael O'Neill in Charlotte, NC on 6/9/2017 with AMS 700LGX. 18 cm cylinders 3 cm RTE's.

Revision done by Dr. Maxim McKibbon in Charlotte, NC on 4/12/2023 with AMD 700 LGX 22 cm cylinders gm

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Re: Natural Function

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:28 pm

sliphill wrote:
Lost Sheep wrote:
sliphill wrote:
What does it mean not to dilate?


Agressive dilation damages the corpus cavernosum sometimes to the po0int that it does not get erect at all anyu more. Some surgeons actually use a surgical tool to remove all the cavernosum tissue, leaving ONLY the implant as the source of erection.

This does not, of course, remove any corpus spongiosum which is outside the tunica albuginea. The spongiosum (I think) can provide some degree of fullness, but not stiffness. But I am a layman, so take that last sentence as my speculation.


I was wondering about this. How in the heck would the cylinders fit in there if they didn't remove something. I don't know if my doctor used this tool or not. Maybe I don't want to know.

As I understand it, if the tisue is not removed, it is merely compressed, and may retain blood flow and get tumescence and even erection, sometimes more than before the implant (since the implant gives a boost to the intra-tunical volume).
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter


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