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newbie1
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injection pain

Postby newbie1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:02 am

I have been injecting 30:1:10 since 4 years with no issues and worked great.
Since the last about 20 times, every time I felt severe pain the whole penis from right after injection to about 2 hours after with persistent severe ache and burning pain (there was never any pain with injection prior to these 20 times).
What do you think might be causing this sudden occurrence of severe burning and aching pain?
ED many years, failed PDE5i, on Trimix but recently needing large increasing strengths and doses

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Re: injection pain

Postby bldoink » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:19 am

The obvious question is did it start with a new batch?
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: injection pain

Postby newbie1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:18 am

No new batch, same injection technique, same injection sites, same amounts (0.2 ml), no change in anything at all; no bruising, no swelling;
Pain just happens (and not before); erections not as hard (was 9 or 10, now 5 or 6)
Uro said just keep injecting and if erections not as hard, can increase dosage; but pain is already quite severe and don't want to increase dosage
ED many years, failed PDE5i, on Trimix but recently needing large increasing strengths and doses

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Re: injection pain

Postby bldoink » Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:44 am

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R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: injection pain

Postby rotor64 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 11:01 am

I know the pain. I tried caverject, bimix, trimix, included lidocaine in the mixtures. First experience in the urologist office, I nearly passed out from the ache. Same pains on 2nd+ tries with caverject, and the others. Finally gave up.
b. 1964,3 time cancer survivor. Gleason Score 7 (3+4) St 2A PCa Aug 2015, RP Sep 2015. ED since RP. Extreme 10+ pain from Edex/TriMix/BiMix. Sildenafil and tadalafil ineffective. T2 Diabetes Jul 2017. Central Texas, USA

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Re: injection pain

Postby newbie1 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 1:26 pm

Somehow I am being accused of doing research and using other members' opinions without consent. I have no idea how this comes about.
I am really having pain and problem with my injections. If you like I can post my prescriptions so you can see I am really on injections and not responding well. I am trying to get help from others because I cannot get response from trimix after it worked for the past 4 years.
I just phoned my urologist this morning and was given another appointment next week to go in to try what the secretary said "super" trimix.
I had a PM from moderator asking if I am a HCP. I told him yes I am (and I am an ambulance attendant so I have some health care knowledge but that is all). Do I get punished for being working in the health care field?
ED many years, failed PDE5i, on Trimix but recently needing large increasing strengths and doses

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Re: injection pain

Postby bldoink » Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:02 pm

I certainly wish you the best and hope you get it figured out. I wish I had some good advice but I don't. I will provide some poorly grounded speculation. Also I was wondering how you inject. Of course the stronger mix might and hopefully will bump you back to your 9 or 10 erections. I'm wondering if you've tried injecting very slowly. I do it in 5 or more short little pulses several seconds apart to give the meds more of a chance to disperse so my tissues aren't shocked all at once. I think it helps with my pain and ache. It might be worth a shot (yeah a bad pun).
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.

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Re: injection pain

Postby Larry10625 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:54 pm

newbie1 wrote:Somehow I am being accused of doing research and using other members' opinions without consent. I have no idea how this comes about.
I am really having pain and problem with my injections. If you like I can post my prescriptions so you can see I am really on injections and not responding well. I am trying to get help from others because I cannot get response from trimix after it worked for the past 4 years.
I just phoned my urologist this morning and was given another appointment next week to go in to try what the secretary said "super" trimix.
I had a PM from moderator asking if I am a HCP. I told him yes I am (and I am an ambulance attendant so I have some health care knowledge but that is all). Do I get punished for being working in the health care field?



Hi newbie1;
I hope this rumour is over now, myself and Paul are convinced you are one of us and not a researcher. I hope the reason you are not getting answers right away is the guys here tend to read and only reply if they are "qualified" meaning they too inject and had pain and have advice for you. I only injected a few times and it hurt so bad I wasn't interested in sex. I hope you get some answers soon... these guys are collectively very experienced. :)

Larry
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Re: injection pain

Postby oldbeek » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:09 pm

Not a reply. My own problem. 6weeks post RT. NO nerves saved. Had injection of trimix at URO office today. 30 units. bottle said to start at 20 units. ?? URO knows best?? Well the pain was nearly unbearable right from the beginning. Aching pain throughout and worked into the perineum at about 1/2 hr. URO said an orgasm would relieve it. Ran home and tried it out on my wife. She was helpful and sympathetic but not impressed. After 1.5 hrs took some Sudafed and got into the hot tub. Finally started to soften at 2 hrs.
Should I try a lower dose? Compounding pharmacy and URO said pain is common in about 30% of the cases. I am hesitant to even try a lower dose. Compounding pharmacist said I need to try Bi mix.
What to do? If I do not want sex do I even need to keep getting blood flow to my penis? Do implants give you blood flow into your penis.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20

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Re: injection pain

Postby Larry10625 » Wed Sep 20, 2017 4:36 pm

oldbeek wrote:Not a reply. My own problem. 6weeks post RT. NO nerves saved. Had injection of trimix at URO office today. 30 units. bottle said to start at 20 units. ?? URO knows best?? Well the pain was nearly unbearable right from the beginning. Aching pain throughout and worked into the perineum at about 1/2 hr. URO said an orgasm would relieve it. Ran home and tried it out on my wife. She was helpful and sympathetic but not impressed. After 1.5 hrs took some Sudafed and got into the hot tub. Finally started to soften at 2 hrs.
Should I try a lower dose? Compounding pharmacy and URO said pain is common in about 30% of the cases. I am hesitant to even try a lower dose. Compounding pharmacist said I need to try Bi mix.
What to do? If I do not want sex do I even need to keep getting blood flow to my penis? Do implants give you blood flow into your penis.



No. Blood flow will continue into the glans but you will never be able to get an erection without the pump. If the injections are too painful or don't work or cause a reaction, the implant is what you need. Those that have it say it's life changing. I can't wait to get my second one in December after losing the first.

Larry


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