Difference in feeling

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TomW46
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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby TomW46 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:15 pm

There are 25 mm per inch


Hugh:

Not exactly correct. There are 25.4 mm per inch. To get inches you must divide the cm by 2.54. Those little extra .04s start to make a difference when you get up above 20 cm.

Tom
Age 72, wife is 52. 20+1 cm Titan Touch implanted by Dr. Kramer on 18 October 2017. Revision to AMS LGX 21+2 cm on 11 June 2018 by Dr. Carrion at Tampa General. Age-related ED + slight Peyronies bend (left) and slight hourglass in the center.

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby Anonymous3 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:21 pm

TomW46 wrote:
There are 25 mm per inch


Hugh:

Not exactly correct. There are 25.4 mm per inch. To get inches you must divide the cm by 2.54. Those little extra .04s start to make a difference when you get up above 20 cm.

Tom

When I used the converter it did come out a little different than rounded math. Guess that the mechanical side me a 1 in socket and a 25 socket fit the same nut. As there are a few others that interchange

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby David_R » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:26 pm

radioradio wrote:My sexual urges will not result in an erection without the aid of the implant. But the urges are still there and active. I no longer have the natural hydraulics to produce and sustain an erection without the implant, but that has not diminished my urge to get hard and have sex.

Same for me. Urges definitely are there, and with my implant I can take care of those urges. :D

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:29 pm

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:29 pm

reallynow48 wrote:i have already noticed not only do you not get erect by yourself anymore, but the places that used to be touched, kissed, whatever, don't work anymore to get you sexually aroused. Haven't even used it yet, have to waited for another week, but I am pretty sure sex with an implant is mechanical and i am very curious as to what it feels like.

Nonsense. Partly

Unless nerves have been cut, physical feelings remain. Unless your psychology has changed, emotional felings remain.

Haaving said that, the physical response OF YOUR PENIS and your feelingvof it growing in size and rigidity will almost ce4tainly be gone or greatly diminishee. In that respect, you may think ofcsex as mechanical. But some intact men with 100% operational penises have 100% mechanical (that is, emotionless sex) all the time. But that has nothingvto do with genitalia, it has everything to do eith their personality. If you were emotional about sex with your partner before, the implant does nothing to detract from that UNLESS YOU THINK IT DOES.

Now, your partner (by what I have read in other threads) may feel slighted because ofvthe mechanical aspect of a hydraulic erection achieved by a pump rather than biology. She may require some assurance in that regard.

But as far as intimacy, emotinal support, togetherness, and love, how mechanicl or lacking in whatever aspect is important to you is using a sex toy, you hands or your tongue for sex? An implanted penis is really no different and DOES allow the full-body contact that a natural erection used to permit.

Isn' that what intimacy is all about? The machine that is your penis was malfunctioning and you rebuilt it. It is the same penis attached to the same man, the same heart, the same soul your partner is loving.

I posted a similar question a while back.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7738

The testimonials there (some taking me to task for the phrase) give firm assurance that sex with an implant loses nothing to mechanics.
Lost Sheep
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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:51 pm

And a LOT less mechanical than a vacuu-induced and constriction naintained erection, or injection-induced or delayed pill-induced erection, I think.
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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby TANGERINE » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:14 pm

yes, I remember that post "dildo inside a penis" and I thought that LostSheep was treated quite unfairly by some men who were way way too sensitive about it.

In the ancient times (before implants and viagra) men would strap on a dildo and have sex as best as they could. I really do not know if a man (or lesbian sex with a strap-on) will sufficiently "satisfy" a hot woman.
That topic could perhaps use some discussion here; and, if it is true that a woman could be satisfied by a dildo, then an implant might be truly a dream come true for her since there are so many advantages to the implant over the dildo (for example: adjustable hardnes , warmth, and attached to a man with unpredictable thrusting angles which makes things interesting). But we likely will never know, since we are men (but might be fun to speculate here on franktalk)

Now to respond to your questions (which by the way are super imprtant since this does focus us all on one why an implant is not as good as a natural genuine hard erection):

If, by chance, your penis leaked precum while watching some porn before the surgery, even though you didn't get erect, that means that you have the urge to have sex. .... If those "pipes" that used to be there are now gone and replace by plastic and saline, where is that urge going to come from?

Personally I do not gauge my "urge to have sex" as being validated by the presence or absence of precum. I like everything about sex (the precum, the woman stroking a rock hard dick, that glorious moment when you rise up and prepare for that first thrust into a desiring anxious woman who is hot with desire , etc etc etc) and it is that whole package experience that drives my urge. By the way, The glands that make precum are not messed up by the implant, so precum, in theory, should be ok. I think for me, precum is ok; but, even if it were not, I would be OK since my love of sex, and urge to have sex is more than just a physical thing (it has to do with loving women and everything about them)
If you already suffered from ED, after awhile you didn't have the urges before. So you're telling me that the surgeon takes away the sensory means to get hard from sight, touch, lips, suction cup, or from whatever suits your fancy...................and your urges are going to miraculously come back, and very strong? Even though you couldn't get an erection from anything man made or beyond?

Men who get an implant are not able to have an erection, even if the hottest porn star shows up in their bed. If a man is able to have a reliable erection, then the implant is not the way to go. As we all know, ED is a condition that truly messes up a man's ego and psyche. To cope, men frequently try to suppress their "urge" to have sex since they do not want to face the horrible failure of a limp dick pointing at a willing and desirous woman. This cerebral attempt at suppressing a "sexual desire " (aka libido) will lead to depression for many men -- unless, of course, their libido is not very high in the first place, in which case, that type of man really should not face the risks/costs/pain of an implant. From my personal experience, before implant, I was depressed since I was reduced to a bystander when it came to the passionate and sensual world of sex and intimacy. After implant, I can partake in the "joy of sex", so, my libido and urges have, as you statae, "miraculously skyrocketed".
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby radioradio » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:35 pm

Tangerine,
Great post.
Bob
Born '52. Married '79. RALP 3/1/17. ED 50+% prior to surgery even w/ meds. VED, Injections, ineffective. Considering implant even before PCa diagnosis. Dr. Kramer 8/2/17. LGX 21cm+0.5 RTE. Kramer replaced/repositioned pump 12/13/17. Willing to Show/Tell.

TANGERINE
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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby TANGERINE » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:12 am

There are a couple of other questions which I have been thinking about, with facts that all men considering implantation must acknowledge and accept:


I was told by my ...doctors up front. "YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A SEXUALLY DRIVEN OR HAVE AN ERECTION, without the use of the pump for the rest of your life."
Please explain these urges. I would like to know what they are.

Correctomundo, yes it is true, as your doctors state: no matter how strong your libido, no matter how badly you want to have sex with the woman in front of you, your penis will not get rock hard unless you use the mechanical pump. In a phrase "No pumping, no erection" -- so, it is best to wait until your "erections are all dead" before going for the implant !

... From what "I" feel so far, you could lay ten of the finest porn stars on this planet .... and my "urges" would be zero.

Hmmmmmm, this is a very unusual behavior for a bionic male. Perhaps there is something is wrong with your baseline libido. Have your doctor check your testostorone --- a really low testostorone can drop your libido.

Hopefully, with time you will adjust to your new powers, your new routines, your new self image. Having an implant changes your self esteem and your perception of the world. For most of us, this change is an amazing improvement; but for some, the stark reality that "shit, I had to have a plastic balloon stuffed in too my dick so that I can have sex" is a revelation that haunts them.
I am so sorry that you are going through all this, we all are different, and we progress through the timtable of recovery at differring rates.

I wish you all the best, and I so hope that things will turn-around for you.
"Strive to find the best surgeon--experience really matters"
(63 yo, Titan 22cm implant Feb 2017 by Dr Eid) I'm super pleased with my length/girth/implant performance. See my story at "The road to becoming a bionic male: Answers ..."

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Re: Difference in feeling

Postby Smetro » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:31 am

Tange and Radio
We (and others) have been on this journey together over the last year. We have contributed where we have found we have something to say and have always been willing to share our views.
Having an implant is a unique experience, I mean, fancy allowing someone to push plastic tubing and apparatus inside your ball sack, penis and abdomen...really??? Pretty serious stuff......but then it's a remedy of literally last resort isn't it?
It's interesting reading the queries and requests for help posted by the unknowing and slightly anxious new guys....and I notice most 'old guys' are only too willing to advise and re-assure in a positive fashion.......always espousing the amazing possibilities a reliable erection provides.
Just like you guys I am ecstatic with mine.
BUT on the point of "difference in feeling" I have found that when I masturbate,....and this was from 3 weeks after I was implanted, the change in shape of my cock from round to slightly flatter, and the fact I can feel the tips of the cylinders forced me to adjust to a new 'feeling'......I think it's a valid point that sex is largely a brain sensation and a man's state of mind can be either an impediment or it can help foster sensuality and sexual sensations.
I suppose the discussions on here amplify just how unique we all are......how differently we experience life.
68,Titan Touch 22cm+1.5cm rte's op done in Melbourne Aust by Dr Chris Love-Feb 2017 Venous leakage over a 2 year period, did pills and Caverject. Length@ 3 1/2years is: 7+” erect, 6.5” flaccid and almost 6” girth. REZUM Feb 21 ejaculation now normal.


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