Painless?

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Re: Painless?i

Postby CTR5000 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:04 am

newtoed wrote:I started with manual injections and it was painful to me. I dreaded every injection. Autoject is 99% painless and 100% predictable for me. I would never go back to manual.
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Interesting! This just shows how different we all are! I've had to be able to inject myself for various reasons since age 39. (I'm 63 now.) The first reason was having gone through Cushing's Disease for 16 years (defined as having a pituitary tumor that caused hypercortisolemia, excessive weight gain and major depression.) Spent two months of research at the National Institutes of Health followed by surgery (transsphenoidal pituitary adenomectomy.) My discharge was dependant upon being able to do an emergency self-injection if ever I should go into Adrenal Insufficiency. Granted, the injection site was my upper thigh and was pretty much a breeze for me, but I knew other patients who struggled for days before being able to stick a syringe into their leg. (To show just how this tumor affected my weight, I hit my peak of 225 lbs and a 44-inch waistline just before admission to the NIH. At 8 months post-surgery I had lost 89 lbs... no diet; no exercise... and I was able to buy my first pair of 29-inch waist jeans since high school! Also, my major depression went into remission for years.)

Unrelated, years later I went into Wasting Syndrome from a medication that caused nothing but unwanted side effects: insomnia; anorexia; and ultimately loss of most of my muscle mass. Had to give myself weekly injections of the steroid Nandrolone Decanoate (aka: Deca Durabolin) in the butt. Again, no big deal. Within a short time, my testosterone was added to the same injection.

When it came to ED, after exhausting all the oral meds, I went on to Caverject injections in my dick. After the first few, I can honestly say that they too became no big deal. Sure, they never got to be absolutely, 100% painless but it got to where I described them as a "tiny prick in my not-so-tiny prick!" To me the pain was negligible. These were always done manually... never used an auto-injector.

Coming full-circle back to injections in my upper thigh over the past 4 months, I now do an auto-injector for Enbrel to treat Psoriatic Arthritis. I'd honestly prefer if I could do them manually! To me, it's those barely-few seconds from having pressed the start button to the actual moment I feel the syringe enter my leg that are the "unknown variable" for me. Within those seconds, it's "out of my hands" (so to speak) and no longer under my control. Plus, I can't SEE a moment that I choose to have that syringe hit! It's all up to the "opaque mystery cylinder" at that point! (I'll survive. I've already done 18 of them and don't intend to stop!)

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Re: Painless?

Postby newtoed » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:53 am

oldbeek wrote:imaygoback and try auto inject. The 4 times I tried it ,every time was a failure.


I think the most common failure with Autoject is short needle or pulling out the needle immediatelly. It takes the Autoimject a few seconds to inject the medicine all the way.
Age 54, Single, Los Angeles. Stage 2 rectal cancer in 2013. Radiation, surgery, chemo. In remission for 5 years. Some ED before cancer, complete since. 2-3 units of Trimix 40/30/2 2-3 times a week since Feb/2017 with great success!

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Re: Painless?

Postby newbie443 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 am

spooon wrote:So i have given myself a handful of Invicorp injections. I know very few people have heard of it but that's not the point of this thread. I've read a lot that the injection is painless. Is it really though? I wouldn't say it was completely painless. It's a bit like an injection at the dentist. There is an element of physical and mental discomfort as you insert the needle. I know however much i might tolerate it i would rather not. Anyone else agree?


I'd rather not but pills don't work well for me. And it don't work on it's own. I just had a root canal last week and have to say the element of physical and mental discomfort is not as bad with tri-mix as it was at the dentist. Course tri-mix is not working for me yet either. So I might change my mind if I am able to dial up to a 3 hour erection with tri-mix. I have injected aprox. 18 times. Auto inject is not an option for me now with the 2 piece syringe/needle I have to use. Maybe down the road when I change my pharmacy.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

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Re: Painless?

Postby tomas1 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:33 pm

bldoink wrote:I'm not a medical professional and nothing I post should be considered medical advice.

Using Viagra with injections is clearly advised against in everything I've read. I believe the fear is of increased risk of priapism. Unless your doctor tells you otherwise I'd recommend you not do it.

That said, I do it. When my new Uro asked me why I did it I explained to him that it allowed me to use less of the injection meds. His only response was a kind of weak OK. There probably is a serious increased risk of priapism with using both. However, with me viagra really doesn't do much of anything on it's own. It makes therapy with a VED easier. It seems to allow my blood to flow in easier when pumped but by itself doesn't do anything on it's own regardless of stimulation other than a slight thickening sometimes. I'm convinced it makes my injections more effective. If I wasn't able to get generic viagra so cheaply through Canada it probably wouldn't be worth it.

Again, all medical literature I've read says don't do it, so don't!!!


Interesting, I also didn't get a full erection when I used 25mg of generic Viagra prior to injecting. I got to the point where I felt I had to do it to get a good result, but don't do it anymore.
One good thing is that I've never even come close to Priapism from orals or injections or combinations thereof.

Since that is always the case with me, I've been known to reinject if I'm
SURE the first shot totally missed the target. Obviously, all this is really against all medical advice, and buyer beware.
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Re: Painless?

Postby bldoink » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:26 pm

Heck, I barely get a little thickening with maximum stimulation and 100mg of Viagra, generic or brand name.
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Re: Painless?

Postby newtoed » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:34 am

Newbie443,

Why do you have to use the two piece needle? 100- 1ml syringes cost about $15 online.
Age 54, Single, Los Angeles. Stage 2 rectal cancer in 2013. Radiation, surgery, chemo. In remission for 5 years. Some ED before cancer, complete since. 2-3 units of Trimix 40/30/2 2-3 times a week since Feb/2017 with great success!

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Re: Painless?

Postby newbie443 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:20 pm

newtoed wrote:Newbie443,

Why do you have to use the two piece needle? 100- 1ml syringes cost about $15 online.



Because the only pharmacy in this area that does Tri-mix puts a thick membrane top on the bottle. The 30 gauge will bend and not get to the med. It is a real pain trying to get the needle caps off with out removing the whole needle. Uro said he would send a script for my new stronger formula to a pharm out of state that put a top on so I can use one piece syringes and maybe try auto inject. Haven't received a call yet from the new pharmacy for billing so we'll see if they really do or not.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.

Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer

66 years young.

Will show and tell and talk with others.

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Re: Painless?

Postby dtwarren1942 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:51 pm

When I used 3/8”,30 gauge needles, there was virtually no pain but I occasionally bent the needle if I hit the tunica at a poor angle. I switched to 1/2” 29 gauge needles and had no problem with bent needles, but did encounter a slight tinge when penetrating the the tunica.
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