If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

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If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby dmikesaw » Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:20 pm

Would you consider posting anonymously on these ED boards (or having someone else post) positive comments about your product, your great ability, positive implant experiences, great results, etc.? Or even make up user names and then rave about how wonderful the implant has turned out to be, etc. I mean, doing this to increase your income-from greater implant sales and/or surgical procedures. "Puffery/puffing" is what it is called in car sales, I believe.

The reason I ask this is because I personally know/have met 7 men with implants over the years and not a single one of them is happy with their implant (loss of size, floppy head, loss of sensitivity, cold, flat, etc.). Then I come on here and it seems that almost everyone is posting about their positive results, great surgeons, great devices, etc. So, I am just trying to reconcile the difference between the guys I have actually met and the ones who actually post here. And naturally, I was caused to wonder if some of the posts on here are somewhat less than honest or perhaps done for ulterior motives??

Call me a curmudgeon/skeptic if you must, but no personal attacks, please......

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby Cajun Jeff » Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:08 am

We have a mix of both satisfied guys with implants and we have some that are not completely happy with them and there are a few that are not happy at all with them. What a mix. Yep we have a few that have the floppy heads and a couple have had revisions. Not all surgerys are completely successful.

It does scare the dicking out of me to think of havinig an implant that is why I would say it is a last resort!

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68 years old, Married 48 years. Prostate Cancer surgery 11 years ago. Tried Pills, VED, moved to injections (EdEx) for past 6 years. Implanted with AMS 700 LGX by Dr Hellstrom in New Orleans at Tulane Medical. 1/13/20

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby dmikesaw » Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:40 pm

I agree with that corvetteman, but you evaded my question: is it possible that some docs/implant companies ('the industry") post under aliases on here in order to boost their incomes?

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby studley1 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:21 am

I think the thing to remember is you have some people who are not happy with anything. I try to take that into consideration when I hear people complain but I always try to garner some information from everywhere. I am only 3 weeks post op and can give no complete opinion. Read, listen and make your own judgements.

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby Peckerwood » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:29 am

Mike,

I would say that it is possible. There are a few that look suspicious, as they seem to promote implants to guys who have not tried less permanent and invasive alternatives when those guys don't appear to have reached that last resort stage. I'm also suspicious of some of those who give the "American" pharmaceutical industry position on Canadian pharmacies. I put American in quotation marks, as I think many, if not most of our so-called Amerian pharmacies are based in other countries. Those that aren't are not above having their drugs manufactured in other countries. We know from the lack of oversight in this country that we have no superiority over manufacturers in many foreign countries. I suspect we may have men on this site who are pharmaceutical salesmen. The most important thing for us to remember is that we should read widely and become discerning, if not skeptical, of much that we read, particularly if it comes from advertising or our own pharmaceutical industries. Many of the so-called watch dog groups are industry owned. The SOPA bill that is before congress right now is an example of lobbyist's writing bills to prevent our purchasing overseas drugs to protect the greed of pharmaceutical companies.

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby NostalgicNight » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:03 am

I've read through 90% of the posts here and I would say that there are a few of them that seem a little suspicious. The ones with pictured progress are more believable, however.

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby hard drive » Mon Jan 16, 2012 7:24 pm

Anything is possible, but when mine is working properly I've been very happy with it. I had a revision about 3 months ago to correct a high ridding pump and short tubes between the pump and the cylinders. After healing things were so good I couldn't believe it. I was really starting to love my results until last night. I was pumping it up and all of a sudden I felt tingling and pain in my scrotum. Next I got facial flushing and tingling like an allergic reaction to something.

The pump bulb went flat and stopped working, a fluid filled bulge formed on the front of my sac and the tubing/pump moved far down and to the back of my scrotum. A few moments later the flushing and pain faded but the blulb was still flat. I pushed the release valve and and the bulb returned to normal form, but that was the last erection I've had. Now the pump goes flat on the first squeeze and I can't pump it up at all. The tubing in my scrotum doesn't feel the same eirther. In fact, it's now hard to even find the tubes.

I'll be calling the VA in the morning but there is no doubt in my mind that the revision has failed and yet a 3rd proceedure is in my near future. I'm still waving the flag in favor of implants. I'm quite sure that most people don't have the kind of issues I've had. I'm not going to quit until this thing is right.

Do you think I'm a phoney? I've not posted any pictures and have no intentions of that either, but I assure I'm for real...

BTW... Yes again... I do think it's possible but I've contacted some of these guys personally and had many telephone conversations with a few. I've yet to run across anyone who fits the profile you describe.
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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby dmikesaw » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:02 am

It is just that I have become very suspicious of the medical industry in general over the years: self-referrals to diagnostic labs (owned by the very same doctors); kick backs from pharmaceutical companies; refusal to testify against other doctors in malpractice cases; outright lies in depositions/court testimony; cheating on board certification exams; the breast implant fiasco; the higher than average rates of drug abuse among doctors; the Medicaid fraud; malpractice cover-ups; "pain clinics" dispensing extraordinary amounts of narcotics to just about anyone who requests it; the doctors losing their licenses and simply moving to another state to practice; and on and on and on....

So, all of that PLUS the discrepancy between the all the extremely positive posts on here vs. my reality and the reality of the 7 men I have actually met elsewhere who weren't positive lead me to wonder if there might be "plants/false posts" on here by those with vested $$$ interests. That plus the fact that Web MD.com removed their harmful paragraph (regarding implant complications/dissatisfaction)the very day after I mentioned it on here a few weeks ago.

But we will never be able to know who is real and who is not real here. We only know our own realities......

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby Cajun Jeff » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:06 pm

I will answer your question this time.. Yes I suspect one guy that has the same repley posted over and over again in the different sections. I have sent an email to Paul about it. You may want to do the same.

Cajun Jeff
68 years old, Married 48 years. Prostate Cancer surgery 11 years ago. Tried Pills, VED, moved to injections (EdEx) for past 6 years. Implanted with AMS 700 LGX by Dr Hellstrom in New Orleans at Tulane Medical. 1/13/20

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Re: If you owned an implant company or were a doc...

Postby ams_bionic.2011 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:37 am

Well for what my 2cents is worth on this there could be some ppl on here posting for their own personal gain, did my implant surgery go well no it didn't but i think myself it was due to inexperience of the Dr i chose i have like 8 freinds here where i live who has had great success with different Dr.'s and don't trust the medical profession here whole heartedly but we as humans choose that for a better way of life we have to put a little trust in someone as for me as a country boy i'll cut to the chase i will go to another Dr and have it done again why cause i like "pussy" and i don't care if it's done from little Johnny form down the block or Susie rotten crotch from up the road i am only 53 went through open heart 4 bypasses 5 heart attacks prostate cancer surgery and heck fire yes i know my chances aren't that good for living to a ripe old age but what time i have left i want to enjoy having sex and i recomend any man to get it done even though mine didn't work out so well this time......


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