I'm pretty sure that I have this down, but I want to confirm:
Trimix formulations come in variations of 3 numbers (ex. 30/20/2)
The numbers stand for 30 mgs chemical x, 20 mgs chemical y, and 2 mcg pge-1 per unit.
1 unit equals 1/100 of a ml or cc
Your dose in mg/mcg equals your formula strength x number of units.
For example 30/20/2 at 10 units would be, 300 mg, 200 mg, and 20 mcg.
Correct?
Trimix strength and dose
Trimix strength and dose
Age: 39, Diabetic (well controlled) HBP (since teens, less well controlled, but ok),
mild ED for 3 years, l arginine l citrulline and norvaline (amino acid stack) helped.
Pills: ineffective. Started trimix: 6/24/18, EXTREMELY effective.
mild ED for 3 years, l arginine l citrulline and norvaline (amino acid stack) helped.
Pills: ineffective. Started trimix: 6/24/18, EXTREMELY effective.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
I haven't done the math as you have, but your numbers look accurate. Just know that formulas are all over the place. You're at 30/20/2? Well I am at 100/30/3. It all comes down to what works for a particular individual. Looks like you're off to a great start! Congrats!
I've tried everything -- pills, injections pumps -- and now I am at the final frontier.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
My last injections were:
50 units (.5ml) of Papav 30, Phentol 1, PGE-1 100, Atropine .01.
I wish I was a rhino but it barely gets the job done and sometimes doesn't.
I realize I'm nearing the end-of-the-trail.
50 units (.5ml) of Papav 30, Phentol 1, PGE-1 100, Atropine .01.
I wish I was a rhino but it barely gets the job done and sometimes doesn't.
I realize I'm nearing the end-of-the-trail.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
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Re: Trimix strength and dose
Hope you don't give up as it sounds like you might well be successful with your tri mix. I just had an appt with my uro yesterday and finally he agreed that after nearly 5 years of mostly successful use (always for getting erections but down to maybe 65% of the time able to reach orgasm and then only after lots of hard work) to try tri mix. i have been using Edex PGE-1 aka alprosdadil since 2013.
I'm very excited to try something new instead of just trying "not to think about it". I loved the erections I had for the first 3 years or so injecting and hope to get back to that level. Looking forward to the trial run, which I find to be both embarrassing and arousing. Funny how the two go together for me!
But none of this "end of the trail" talk! you've got a variety of injections to try and after that an implant, which seems to be super popular here on F.T.
Anyone have suggestions for making the switch to tri mix? success stories? Problems? I am just trusting my uro on the mix, since I am clueless about the various mixes.
I'm very excited to try something new instead of just trying "not to think about it". I loved the erections I had for the first 3 years or so injecting and hope to get back to that level. Looking forward to the trial run, which I find to be both embarrassing and arousing. Funny how the two go together for me!
But none of this "end of the trail" talk! you've got a variety of injections to try and after that an implant, which seems to be super popular here on F.T.
Anyone have suggestions for making the switch to tri mix? success stories? Problems? I am just trusting my uro on the mix, since I am clueless about the various mixes.
Injections for 5 years PGE-1 (Alprostadil) 40 mcg /ml. Trying Tri Mix (20-2-30 . Hope is shift in meds will restore some sensitiviy. Enjoy sharing openly withother "EDguys". Love the site, informative and entertaining too!
Re: Trimix strength and dose
Namirrah wrote:I'm pretty sure that I have this down, but I want to confirm:
Trimix formulations come in variations of 3 numbers (ex. 30/20/2)
The numbers stand for 30 mgs chemical x, 20 mgs chemical y, and 2 mcg pge-1 per unit.
1 unit equals 1/100 of a ml or cc
Your dose in mg/mcg equals your formula strength x number of units.
For example 30/20/2 at 10 units would be, 300 mg, 200 mg, and 20 mcg.
Correct?
To answer your question, NO. The math is NOT correct (sorry if that is too direct) and probably not the right mix ratios.
What I suspect you have is a 30-2-20 Tri-Mix, pretty standard. SO if this is the case:
That is:
30 mg (milligram) of papavarine per 1 ml (1 ml = 100 "units")
2 mg of phentolomine per 1 ml
20 mcg (micro-grams are 1/1000th of a mg, very small) of alprostadil per 1 ml
If you use 0.2ml (20 units) as a dose, a pretty low but standard dose:
30 mg/ml x 0.20 ml = 6 mg of papavariine
2 mg/ml x 0.20 ml = 0.40 mg of phentolomine
20 mcg/ml x 0.20 ml = 4 mcg of alprostadil
In that dose.
If you used a dose of 0.40 ml (40 "units"), it would be double that, etc.
Last edited by Stew52 on Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
tomas1 wrote:My last injections were:
50 units (.5ml) of Papav 30, Phentol 1, PGE-1 100, Atropine .01.
I wish I was a rhino but it barely gets the job done and sometimes doesn't.
I realize I'm nearing the end-of-the-trail.
That is a pretty stout mix indeed. A Rino mix. When I was on Caverject (alprostadil/PGE-1 alone) I was doing 30-40 mcg which was nearly that much PGE-1 (0.50 ml x 100 mcg/ml = 50 mcg) but it did not have the other 2 or 3 items that also helps out in a Tri or Quad mix so you can reduce the PGE-1. But not you.
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
goodwoodnow wrote:Hope you don't give up as it sounds like you might well be successful with your tri mix. I just had an appt with my uro yesterday and finally he agreed that after nearly 5 years of mostly successful use (always for getting erections but down to maybe 65% of the time able to reach orgasm and then only after lots of hard work) to try tri mix. i have been using Edex PGE-1 aka alprosdadil since 2013.
I'm very excited to try something new instead of just trying "not to think about it". I loved the erections I had for the first 3 years or so injecting and hope to get back to that level. Looking forward to the trial run, which I find to be both embarrassing and arousing. Funny how the two go together for me!
But none of this "end of the trail" talk! you've got a variety of injections to try and after that an implant, which seems to be super popular here on F.T.
Anyone have suggestions for making the switch to tri mix? success stories? Problems? I am just trusting my uro on the mix, since I am clueless about the various mixes.
Goodwoodnow - when I was on 2 syringes of 20 mcg Caverject, 2 ml = 40 mcg of PGE-1, it was plenty stiff and did the job with my honey, 30-50 min, BUT it burned pretty bad and I had a hard time achieving ejaculation, like NOT. I worked up from 10 mcg.
The Tri-Mix doesn't seem to burn as badly, perhaps because the PGE-1 is much lower and he other chemicals are synergistic. So I am getting by well with a 30-2-40 quite well now. For a longer session, over 20-30 min., I give a small booster shot of PGE-1 only (maybe 15 mcg) and get back to work for up to an hour in a pool of sweat and a whacked out wife.
NOT an MD. 72, M52 yrs, CenTX US. Inj since 12/2016, a yr after pills stopped working. Caverject for a yr. 1/2018 Tri-Mix at 30 pap/2 phent/60 pge @0.3ml, now 0.5ml 80mcg/ml PGE1. DE/Anorgasmia setting in since 5/2019, worse now.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
Stew52 wrote:Namirrah wrote:I'm pretty sure that I have this down, but I want to confirm:
Trimix formulations come in variations of 3 numbers (ex. 30/20/2)
The numbers stand for 30 mgs chemical x, 20 mgs chemical y, and 2 mcg pge-1 per unit.
1 unit equals 1/100 of a ml or cc
Your dose in mg/mcg equals your formula strength x number of units.
For example 30/20/2 at 10 units would be, 300 mg, 200 mg, and 20 mcg.
Correct?
To answer your question, NO. The math is NOT correct (sorry if that is too direct) and probably not the right mix ratios.
What I suspect you have is a 30-2-20 Tri-Mix, pretty standard. SO if this is the case:
That is:
30 mg (milligram) of papavarine per 1 ml (1 ml = 100 "units")
2 mg of phentolomine per 1 ml
20 mcg (micro-grams are 1/1000th of a mg, very small) of alprostadil per 1 ml
If you use 0.2ml (20 units) as a dose, a pretty low but standard dose:
30 mg/ml x 0.20 ml = 6 mg of papavariine
2 mg/ml x 0.20 ml = 0.40 mg of phentolomine
20 mcg/ml x 0.20 ml = 4 mcg of alprostadil
In that dose.
If you used a dose of 0.40 ml (40 "units"), it would be double that, etc.
That was exactly what my question was.
I wasn't sure if the 30/2/20 referred to amount per unit or amount per ml.
Age: 39, Diabetic (well controlled) HBP (since teens, less well controlled, but ok),
mild ED for 3 years, l arginine l citrulline and norvaline (amino acid stack) helped.
Pills: ineffective. Started trimix: 6/24/18, EXTREMELY effective.
mild ED for 3 years, l arginine l citrulline and norvaline (amino acid stack) helped.
Pills: ineffective. Started trimix: 6/24/18, EXTREMELY effective.
Re: Trimix strength and dose
OK, finally success with the new formula. I was really starting to worry and I hope the good luck continues.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
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