Surgical Sizing

[Hawkman]

There seems to the classic propaganda tactic or more accurately, the rational fallacy of the "red herring" used a lot on FT. It diverts the reader from the rational argument at hand. It goes like this. Because a specific surgeon is not perfect and infallible, or maybe because he cannot control every conceivable problem (like the hospital burning down during surgery) that somehow proves he is no better than your neighborhood urologist because it proves all surgeons have exactly the same skill, experience, talent, and the same inclination toward aggressive or conservative philosophy.

That argument is a total abandonment of rational thought and logic. It is silly to argue that ALL professionals in any profession are the same.

[Floridabionic]

OK, so if all the top "high volume surgeons" measure pre surgery and during, why is it that some patients are NOT measured correctly and require a revision? I guess the measure twice, cut once doesn't necessarily work hummmmm…

Larry

If the best mechanic in your county is not perfect, then why take your car to him, hmmmm!

In your instance above Larry, it makes my point as to exactly why you would want presurgical documentation of your penis size. I could not have made the point any better myself - thank you!

Hawkman you have to understand Larry had suboptimal results: Larry was implanted with a 18+2, it was infected and his "Wonderful" Surgeon removed the implant did not preserve size by placing a malleable and then eventually re-implanted him with a 15+2, that is a whopping 3 cm loss, yet he continually knocks two of the Best surgeons, Hummmmm.

[Donnie1954]

I would not refer to any Surgeon who has repeated (ka ching) revisions as the best. The best Surgeon gets it right the first time.
donnie1954@mail.com

[Floridabionic]

I would not refer to any Surgeon who has repeated (ka ching) revisions as the best. The best Surgeon gets it right the first time.
donnie1954@mail.com

So Donnie you are the only one here with an implant from Dr. Kata (Low Volume), 5.5 cm rear tip extenders (Hinge Effect and Wobbly Erection). Your surgeon did not get it right the first time(Novice), so in your own words he did not get it right the first time (probably never will)...not the best surgeon...you are a walking REVISION.

[Donnie1954]

You are so wrong. No hinge. No wobble. Nice firm stiff dick. Dr. Kata is tops in my book. I recommend him to anyone who asks. Get your facts straight. I never mentioned any problems with my implant. I couldn't be more pleased.
donnie1954@mail.com

[Larry10625]

OK, so if all the top "high volume surgeons" measure pre surgery and during, why is it that some patients are NOT measured correctly and require a revision? I guess the measure twice, cut once doesn't necessarily work hummmmm…

Larry

If the best mechanic in your county is not perfect, then why take your car to him, hmmmm!

In your instance above Larry, it makes my point as to exactly why you would want presurgical documentation of your penis size. I could not have made the point any better myself - thank you!

Hawkman you have to understand Larry had suboptimal results: Larry was implanted with a 18+2, it was infected and his "Wonderful" Surgeon removed the implant did not preserve size by placing a malleable and then eventually re-implanted him with a 15+2, that is a whopping 3 cm loss, yet he continually knocks two of the Best surgeons, Hummmmm.

Yeah, he was a little busy making sure that I woke from surgery with a pulse and did not end up with septic shock again. I have spoken to other doctors that agree that he needed to get in and get out quick, I am quite happy with what I have and so is my wife. And as for "continually knocking two of the best surgeons", I don't know what you are reading but, quite to the contrary, my argument is there are MANY great doctors, not that any are bad. You think what you like, every member with the ability to read simple English, knows what I said.

Larry

[Larry10625]

OK, so if all the top "high volume surgeons" measure pre surgery and during, why is it that some patients are NOT measured correctly and require a revision? I guess the measure twice, cut once doesn't necessarily work hummmmm…

Larry

If the best mechanic in your county is not perfect, then why take your car to him, hmmmm!

In your instance above Larry, it makes my point as to exactly why you would want presurgical documentation of your penis size. I could not have made the point any better myself - thank you!

Hawkman you have to understand Larry had suboptimal results: Larry was implanted with a 18+2, it was infected and his "Wonderful" Surgeon removed the implant did not preserve size by placing a malleable and then eventually re-implanted him with a 15+2, that is a whopping 3 cm loss, yet he continually knocks two of the Best surgeons, Hummmmm.

My Johnson and I want to thank the few members who have concerns regarding my loss of 3cm between the first and second implants. I just got off the phone with Dr. Eid... very nice man, we spoke for about 30 minutes. We spoke about many things including my loss of size and infection and my advice to new members looking for a surgeon. His insight was as follows;
1. You CANNOT place a malleable space holder (as he calls it) in to prevent size loss in all cases of infection, especially when the patient is in septic shock, as I was. You want to get in, get the infection out and close as quickly and safely as possible.

2. While he appreciates the vote of confidence from his fans on here, he agrees that there are hundreds of surgeons out there who do a great job with implants. He knows Dr. Brock and holds him in high regard.

Thanks everyone, now can we please switch our focus to members who are asking for our help. Everybody have a wonderful day.

Larry

[Hawkman]

Larry, I agree. That is Dr. Eid. That speaks to the man. He would never disparage anyone much less a fellow surgeon that someone called to ask about. I have no opinion about your lack of a malleable "space holder" between implants and no opinion about your doctor.

My private in-person conversation with Dr. Eid went a little different than yours on the subject of does the surgeon make a significant difference and the number of expert implant surgeons in the country as well as the wide differences in approaches and procedures of various surgeons.
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