Bear5000 - Help regaining usable length.

[ED2013]

I would get a second and or third opinion. In the meantime pump twice a day for one or two hours or as long as you can stand it. Try to get more pumps in every 5 minutes or so.

[Bear5000]

Many thanks for your comment. I will reply point by point here:

I will add a profile as you requested.

There were no pre-surgical measurements, or at least if there were I must have been under anesthesia and did not know it. I took pictures of my penis when erect under the vacumn pump and showed them to my surgeon. He said I should expect nearly that length (i.e. 5.75 inches) The surgeon said he pumped me up in OR but he did not tell me what length it reached. By the way, I do not know if it was the surgeon I dealt with or an intern that did the actual operation.

Immediately after deflating, my penis has NO flat spots and NO folds, but the cylinders do go limp. As for the undersizing, first note I am not a medical person either, in fact I kept away from biology and never had a course in biology in all my 9 years of college. I majored in Physics and math getting my Ph.D. in totally mechanical and theoretical fields. So my observations are not medically acceptable. However, the Coloplast representative told me the insert was 17 cm, which is approximately 6.7 inches. The surgeon was not inclined to say. I can observe by feeling about 2.2 inches of the implant outside my abdomen in my penis, or about 1/3 of the total length. There is about 1/2 inch between the tip of the implant and the end of my penis giving me less than 3 inches total. I thought it was to be the other way round, namely 1/3 in and 2/3 out; or 2.2 in and 4.5 out. If that is true and you add the 1/2 inch to the 4.5 I would have 5 inches and be happy. But I have less than 3 inches outside so it seems to be 1/3 out and 2/3 in.

When I pump it up, the cylinders inflate but there is no increase in length, and the girth is less than what I had before surgery. There is some tightness but no real pain. The cylinders become rigid at no more than 8 or 10 pumps. When fully inflated the tip of the cylinders are about 1/2 inch from the end of the ball at the end of my penis. I can wait a while and pump some more. I recognize a "pump" action has occurred when I can hear the fluid refilling the bulb with a "whishing" sound. I have been able to get up to 20 pumps by waiting between pumping efforts but there was no effect visible in the penis. It looked and felt the same as after 10 pumps. After 10 pumps the cylinders are rigid and I think the penis would be capable of penetrating (that is if my partner would stop laughing long enough). When fully pumped, the ball at the end of the penis is soft.

I have not left the penis inflated more than a few minutes. There seemed to be no point in doing that but I do not think I would have any problem in leaving it inflated all day. I will try your suggestion about cycling twice a day for an hour and see what happens.

I have tried the vacumn pump both before and after inflating and did work it up to about 3.25 inches under vacumn but a sharp pain developed when I tried to go over 3.25 inches. I am a little scared to do much with the vacumn pump because I thought that the spongy tissue that became engorged with blood had been removed to make room for the cylinder, so I don't understand what it is that is being engorged. It doesn't seem that much can be gained by just engorging the ball at the tip of the penis.

I have no idea whether the surgeon went through the scrotum or the abdomen, but there was a scar over which he placed a piece of tape on my abdomen about 3 inches above my penis.

[Hawkman]

Immediately after deflating, my penis has NO flat spots and NO folds, but the cylinders do go limp. ... However, the Coloplast representative told me the insert was 17 cm, which is approximately 6.7 inches... I do not think I would have any problem in leaving it inflated all day. I will try your suggestion about cycling twice a day for an hour and see what happens.

I have tried the vacuum pump both before and after inflating and did work it up to about 3.25 inches under vacuum but a sharp pain developed when I tried to go over 3.25 inches. I am a little scared to do much with the vacuum pump because I thought that the spongy tissue that became engorged with blood had been removed to make room for the cylinder, so I don't understand what it is that is being engorged. It doesn't seem that much can be gained by just engorging the ball at the tip of the penis.

I have no idea whether the surgeon went through the scrotum or the abdomen, but there was a scar over which he placed a piece of tape on my abdomen about 3 inches above my penis.

If you had an incision above the penis then it was infrapubic rather than scrotal. You would know if you had a scrotal incision.

Nothing is removed when they do an implant. the Tissue in the 2 carvernosa chambers is pushed aside to accommodate the cylinders. The 3rd chamber is the spongiosum. It is untouched. It runs along the bottom of the penis and surrounds the urethra and continues up and ends as the head of the penis (what you referred to as the ball). The correct term is the "glans". A VED should engorge this just like before an implant. In fact, if you got partial erections before the implant, the head of the penis may swell up just from arousal even after an implant.

My main interest right now is to understand better exactly where the tips of the implant end in relation to the glans. Are you saying the tips end before the glans, come right to the edge of where the glans meets the shaft, or they extend into the glans? If they extend into the glans, about how far, 1/3 1/2 of the way or what?

Once I know where the tips end and you tell me how you feel after being pumped to the max for an hour, I will give you my 25 cent assessment as a retired law enforcement officer.

[ED2013]

Ballpark estimate is one third of implant is inside your body. If a 17cm device was used, a rough estimate would be 4.5 inch erection. Add glans and around 5 inches.

[Bear5000]

Thanks for those two posts, I will try pumping it now and report my findings. Then I will let you know how it feels after an hour.

I pumped it with about 10 good pumps. I heard the "whishing" sound in most of them but not all. The "gland" is about 1 inch long and the tips of the cylinders on the sides come 1/2 inch into the gland, half way. The cylinders are hard and rigid. There should be no trouble with penetration. The gland itself is soft and spongy. The bottom of the penis is flat. I cannot find anything that seems to be pumped up. The total length from the pubic bone to the end of the gland is just short of 3 inches measured by laying a ruler on top. There is no pain and nothing feels stretched. I will see what its like after 1 hour.

[Bear5000]

After one hour, the erection still feels the same. There was no pain and no problem. Please let me know what you think.

[Hawkman]

After one hour, the erection still feels the same. There was no pain and no problem. Please let me know what you think.

Well, you threw one confusing point in the way of my theory when you said "The bottom of the penis is flat. I cannot find anything that seems to be pumped up. "

I am not sure what that means. when pumped up you should feel nothing but a hard penis. You can probe and feel the tips of the cylinders in the glans but the penis should be hard the whole way to the base and even behind the scrotum. There should be nothing from the glans to your anus that feels like flat, folded, kinked, or dimpled cylinders. If that is NOT true then I have no clue how the end of your shaft could be hard and the base of your shaft is "flat" unless you are not fully pumping up.