AMS CX vs, Titan?

[MK1965]

The problem is that nothing feels normal. You might be exceptionally lucky guy, but many here are not of same luck so allow us to express our feelings.
Someone with same or very similar problem might be of help to us needing help.
MK

There was little luck associated with my implant. I am one of hundreds done by just a single doctor every year. I am not questioning your opinion of how things are in the same month you had surgery. I am pointing out that an implant 3 weeks out of surgery cannot be compared to one 3 months out of surgery much less a year out. I don't want guys with any model of implant thinking where they are at 3 weeks is how it is because the community of brothers know things will change dramatically. I don't want those considering an implant to thinking a 3 week assessment has any bearing on what an implant is like because it doesn't; not in pain, not in length, not in girth, not in angle, not in stiffness, not in ease of pumping, not in deflating, not to mention much more.[/quote


I am wondering Sir why are you so much after me and my comments how I feel about this misadventure. I do not see the point in what you are trying to proof to me when you are just fucking 4 weeks ahead of me. If this would come from someone with years of having an implant, I would accept it as encouragement.

[Hawkman]

I do not see the point in what you are trying to proof to me when you are just fucking 4 weeks ahead of me. If this would come from someone with years of having an implant, I would accept it as encouragement.

Thank you for understanding that I am only 4 weeks ahead of you. I have only had an implant twice as long as you. That is exactly the point. If you will just give it a month of healing you will see a dramatic difference. You are barely starting the process. I would think you would be encouraged that someone barely ahead of you is trying to tell you how much difference the next month or two will make as far as the softness of the cylinders and the angle that your penis sticks out. I have a no idea why that would upset you and make you curse at me rather than encourage you. If you prefer to be upset, I certainly recognize that as your right.

I understand you are upset that you seem to have lost length with your surgeon. I am sorry for that but that, of course, has nothing to do with your brand of implant. If you have actually lost length that has to do with your surgeon. Best of luck to you!

[TomW46]

If you only care about a dick that gets hard, then either the AMS or the Titan will do the job equally well. BUT, if you also care about how it looks and feels when flaccid, then the AMS is the better choice, for average sized dicks. Oval? They both have two cylinders that get very hard.
Unless my dick is very unique and not like most other guys, then I know. All I have to do is squeeze my revised AMS dick while remembering how it felt when it still had the Titan. Again, it's just IMO, but unless you have a large dick, the LGX is the better product.

[SW0110]

This is an interesting topic. Reminds me of conversations I have with my uncle. He will always be a Chevy guy. I like my Ford. Then my cousin always buys Rams. They all are big diesels that tow pretty much anything we put behind them. None will tow the Dozier though that is a dump truck on a low body trailer. I hope I never need my implant to ever do the equivalent of towing a dozier. Otherwise I am good with its capacity.

My issue is the pretty severe peyronie's. 2 docs I visited so far tell me I will need the titan to correct it. I am getting another opinion next week. I hope he makes me a little more comfortable. At least they told me to prepare for another timix injection. I will be measured and ultrasound. More than the others did. I got looked at from one that said yep you got peyronie's. Not much we can do. A titan will take care of it so when do we do it. Doc 2 trimixed me. Looked at it erect said yep you got peyronie's. Will need a titan to fix that. Hoping for a better experience next week with surgeon 3.

I have been looking at videos,techniques etc online from all different docs who do videos. It does look like most fix peyronie's with a titan if it is s severe bend. I must admit I like the size of the titan pump being smaller. My issue is size. I can stretch out to about 6 inches with about 5.5 girth. With the peyronie's on the longer side I still get about 6 with about 6.5 in girth and to get more back. I am not sure the amx would get the girth for me. Kramer's vids look like he likes the amx better but he appears to use the titan in those with severe peyronie's. Not sure I will have much say in it when it gets down to it. I do plan on keeping good track of things and posting my outcome and ultimate brand. I just have to hope whichever surgeon I use does a good job. I am sure there are those with peyronie's who got an ams and ended up with a straight dick. Time will tell for me.

FYI, those who have read my other posts. Just got back from beach with my wife. See her brain surgeon Thursday to find out hopefully when her surgery is. Plan on mine as soon as she can deal with it. Probably months away but hope before spring.

[Tsanchez12369]

For severe peyronies I understand the AMS CX and Titan are the two options. It will probably depend on which the surgeon prefers. Advantages of Titan, harder erect, more girth. Adv Of AMS CX are more natural flaccid and expands in girth-tho not as much as Titan I suspect. Most important is high volume doc.

[merrix]

The never-ending debate...
I have been involved in it as well, defending the implant I was given, just as many others do.

Closing in on three years as implanted with a Titan by one of the (or maybe the) best surgeons, I have most of all lost my desire to advocate one or the other, but probably also developed a slightly more moderate assessment of the brands.

First of all, just by reading this site, one thing is very obvious:
You can, and most likely will, get good results with either brand. It is not such a big deal which one you get. Both have some pros and cons, but they are subtle and on the margin in terms of overall outcome.

As the famous car brand comparison analogue will come out: comparing two standard cars. Ok, one might accelerate 0-100 in 9.2 and one of them in 9.0. So what, it is a difference on paper, barely noticeable in real life. And both still pathetic compared to a really fast car. The other one might load 500 litres in the trunk and the other 475. So what, they both fit three large suitcases and none of them fit four. Etc, etc. Either car will fill your need equally good. The difference is negligible.

What I just think is a pity is that so many here seem to confuse drawbacks of the implant brand itself with other issues completely unrelated to the AMS vs Titan issue.

Someone complains about the flaccid of his brand when it turns out he has crossed cylinders...That is 100% a fuckup by the doctor and not related to the implant itself. So why even use that as an argument in this debate?
Then it is this never-ending issue about the flaccid state with the Titan. Again, many here use arguments which don't really mean anything. Of course your flaccid will stink after a few weeks only. This is partly due to the Titan's stiffer cylinders which will need time to soften. But it is also due to your own swelling and body fluids which keeps the angle up and needs time to heal. Finally, deflation is a skill which must be learned. If you don't deflate properly, it is barely your implant's fault that you have a shitty flaccid. It could actually be your doc's fault though for leaving you too inflated after surgery and hence leaving an empty reservoir for too long time, allowing scar tissue to form around it and thereby reducing its capacity.
Another interesting fact is that we have seen complaints and pictures of shitty flaccids with AMS as well. Again, there are other factors than just implant brand.

And for the typical AMS issues, I am sure a lot of that is down to similar issues. Handling and doc's failures.

Overall, I just think the doctor's installation is many times more important to your result than which implant brand you have.

But to round off my post, I would just like to ask those saying Titans have 3 o'clock flaccids, dog ears and are always uncomfortable - Why is it not like this for me then?
Look at the pic of my flaccid. Linked in a post above. Except for the size, it is hanging as straight down as it can. I have no visible dog ears or folds. Zoom in the pic and look for yourself. I spend hours every weekend in and around the pool socialising with wet swim pants and nobody ever notices my dick. Even though it is 15 cm flaccid (almost 18 cm erect), and pretty girthy at almost 14.5 cm.
So if you have a shitty Titan flaccid, why don't I?
Did you get a faulty item from Coloplast, while I was lucky to get a proper one?

Or are there other reasons? Shitty installation by your doc?
Or you being too early in the process to not having seen the final result yet? My flaccid took over a year to develop to where it is now.

If Titans where crap and gave you shitty flaccid, then I would have a shitty one too. But I don't.

Same with the AMS supposedly less harder inflated state. If that was the case, if it was too soft to produce desirable results, this site would not have all these satisfied men claiming their AMS hardness is more than enough.

Choice of doctor overshadows all else when it comes to getting good results.
And yes, to pre-empt the predictable comments, top docs do mistakes as well. But not nearly as often. Just facts.

Take care boys.

[MK1965]

merrix,
To spot differences between your Titan 24 cm and average or below average penis like mine with 18+1 , i was saying that mine will never hang freely because of not much length to be influenced by gravity.
It does not matter: inflated or deflated, it always sticks out at 90 degrees or 3:00 o’clock position. I hate it and it affects my day-to-day life. It is hard to hide it and I feel very uncomfortable walking around others with visible erection. Titan is probably perfect for guys of your size, but definitely not for average penis. So, it is easy for you to make such comments about reasonable issues when you are not affected by it.
MK

[Larry10625]

There was little luck associated with my implant. I am one of hundreds done by just a single doctor every year. I am not questioning your opinion of how things are in the same month you had surgery. I am pointing out that an implant 3 weeks out of surgery cannot be compared to one 3 months out of surgery much less a year out. I don't want guys with any model of implant thinking where they are at 3 weeks is how it is because the community of brothers know things will change dramatically. I don't want those considering an implant to thinking a 3 week assessment has any bearing on what an implant is like because it doesn't; not in pain, not in length, not in girth, not in angle, not in stiffness, not in ease of pumping, not in deflating, not to mention much more.[/quote


I am wondering Sir why are you so much after me and my comments how I feel about this misadventure. I do not see the point in what you are trying to proof to me when you are just fucking 4 weeks ahead of me. If this would come from someone with years of having an implant, I would accept it as encouragement.

Good morning;
You are absolutely correct. Your opinion matters and you deserve to be respected on this site. I have not tolerated bullying in the past and I won't start now. I can tell you, I am now at 9 months. I have noticed differences at 3 months, 6 months and even lately. It is now not the only thing I think about all day like I use to post operatively. At first the pump seems huge but now I don't even notice it anymore. In the past I was not the least bit interested in looking in the mirror naked... now, I kinda like what I am seeing. Would I like more? Absolutely, what guy wouldn't but I am pretty happy with what I have. Based on what I have seen and read, it is my opinion that the Titan is designed for men with severe pyronines or well endowed but maybe not a great choice for the average man. The majority of FT members will provide support for you and some will have long phone conversations (like me) and some will even share show and tell... I would but I am not exactly close to anyone although I could video chat. I have had several phone conversations with members, physicians (including Dr. Eid) and Reps from BOTH companies. We need to be mindful that the implant is only part of the equation... surgeon and even patient have duties and responsibilities. The patient MUST follow the doctors instructions. I see on here all the time that a patient has decided on their own to shave two or three weeks off of their healing time and try it out. WHY? You have gone years with ED and you are so horney that you have to risk everything and try it 3 weeks early? That is NOT SMART. I know that Dr. Eid's patients are cycling at 3 weeks BUT, unless Dr. Eid put in your implant, you should not be following his instructions given to his patients. Maybe he does things differently during surgery. I am sorry that you are not having such a good time, what I can offer you is to please, be a little bit more patient. Try a hot relaxing bath and, if cleared by your doctor, try cycling while in the tub. The hot water seems to relax everything, loosen it up and also makes the rubber a little more pliable. If you are still having wound problems you should see your doctor. If your issue is an implant problem, try calling:

Jamie Matson, RN
Patient Service Specialist
Boston Scientific
Urology and Pelvic Health
jamie.matson@bsci.com
952-930-6261(office) 303-591-8599(cell)
10700 Bren Rd W Minnetonka, MN http://www.bostonscientific.com

Jamie has over 20 years experience and is great to deal with. There is NOTHING you can tell her that she has not heard before. Many times she can verbally walk you through tests and tips that get things working properly. Keep your supportive brothers up to date on your progress, we really do care and wish the best for you and as for the unsupported members, it's time to just let them talk to themselves and don't allow them to get the rest of us down.
Have a great day

Larry
Moderator

[merrix]

merrix,
To spot differences between your Titan 24 cm and average or below average penis like mine with 18+1 , i was saying that mine will never hang freely because of not much length to be influenced by gravity.
It does not matter: inflated or deflated, it always sticks out at 90 degrees or 3:00 o’clock position. I hate it and it affects my day-to-day life. It is hard to hide it and I feel very uncomfortable walking around others with visible erection. Titan is probably perfect for guys of your size, but definitely not for average penis. So, it is easy for you to make such comments about reasonable issues when you are not affected by it.
MK

Well, nothing in your post alters the logic I refer to.
With your logic, every guy with an 18 cm Titan would have a 3 o'clock flaccid. But they don't.
So you're wrong.

In your case, you are only 4 weeks from surgery. You are nowhere near a finished product. I had huge problems with my flaccid as well after 4 weeks. I seriously thought just like you, that it will never ever hang down freely and that my life was changed forever. To being able to fuck but doomed to never go out in public.
But it changes. For sure.

If it still points straight out after a few months, I'd look to your installation or your post-operative protocol for what went wrong. Because it is not typical for any implant to have a 3 o'clock flaccid forever.

Even a smaller guy having a Titan and complaining about it in terms of "Titan sucks because my flaccid is too high angle" should turn to his doc instead of the implant. Why did his doc choose an implant which didn't suit the patient? Incompetence would probably be the answer.

I really think it is the same thing for AMS patients with the high pump issue. It is a known issue of AMS, so if the patients's anatomy doesn't match with the tubing insertion point of AMS, why then did the doc use it?
Not AMS' problem, rather the doc's problem.

In summary, I really don't think there are any bad implants, only bad doctors and patients ignoring their doctor's instructions.

[MK1965]

merrix,
To spot differences between your Titan 24 cm and average or below average penis like mine with 18+1 , i was saying that mine will never hang freely because of not much length to be influenced by gravity.
It does not matter: inflated or deflated, it always sticks out at 90 degrees or 3:00 o’clock position. I hate it and it affects my day-to-day life. It is hard to hide it and I feel very uncomfortable walking around others with visible erection. Titan is probably perfect for guys of your size, but definitely not for average penis. So, it is easy for you to make such comments about reasonable issues when you are not affected by it.
MK

Well, nothing in your post alters the logic I refer to.
With your logic, every guy with an 18 cm Titan would have a 3 o'clock flaccid. But they don't.
So you're wrong.

In your case, you are only 4 weeks from surgery. You are nowhere near a finished product. I had huge problems with my flaccid as well after 4 weeks. I seriously thought just like you, that it will never ever hang down freely and that my life was changed forever. To being able to fuck but doomed to never go out in public.
But it changes. For sure.

If it still points straight out after a few months, I'd look to your installation or your post-operative protocol for what went wrong. Because it is not typical for any implant to have a 3 o'clock flaccid forever.

Even a smaller guy having a Titan and complaining about it in terms of "Titan sucks because my flaccid is too high angle" should turn to his doc instead of the implant. Why did his doc choose an implant which didn't suit the patient? Incompetence would probably be the answer.

I really think it is the same thing for AMS patients with the high pump issue. It is a known issue of AMS, so if the patients's anatomy doesn't match with the tubing insertion point of AMS, why then did the doc use it?
Not AMS' problem, rather the doc's problem.

In summary, I really don't think there are any bad implants, only bad doctors and patients ignoring their doctor's instructions.

Please, point me to the place where I said every guy with Titan 18 will have a 3:00 o’clock position?
I said, mine will never hang freely like yours and other big guys.
Why am I wrong to saying it about my own implant?
MK