Coloplast Titan 22cm

[Hawkman]

I have to wonder if he is fully pumped...

Larry, I'm thinking he has to be fully pumped. He said the pump gets hard and if he waits he can pump a couple more times, plus he says that his penis is hard, and most of all there are no folds in the cylinders. If he is properly implanted with a Titan and every trace of folds are out of the cylinders, he has to be fully pumped. Surely if he is complaining to his surgeon about the size of his penis being 50% of what it was his doctor would confirm he was pumped up.

I think there are only two possibilities. 1) His penis developed a restricting scar capsule while deflated prior to cycling (unlikely since he has no folds in the cylinders) 2) He is undersized. If he can pump up to the max for an hour and feel no discomfort from it, I am thinking he has to be undersized. My best hope is he comes back and says that pumping to the max he could only stand it for 15 minutes. Then there is hope that cycling will stretch him out to the capacity of the implant but if that were true he should have folds and the surgeon should have resolved the confusion.

[Hawkman]

Yeah, I just thought that someone on here did the math and he is smaller than the smallest implant creates. It's... really too bad he didn't get the LGX to reclaim some of that lost size. Maybe on his first revision, he will get an implant that is much bigger, and all this conversation will be shut down. Larry

Larry, honestly, that is so misleading and does such a disservice to men that come here. When you make statements like that it makes me think you don't understand the concept that the length of your penis after surgery has nothing to do with whether you have a Coloplast Titan, an AMS LGX, or an AMS CX. It has to do with an unskilled surgeon that knows how to cut you, insert an implant, and sew you up but has little skill or experience in aggressively sizing you. On top of a lack of skill, he did not have a stroke of luck which is a man's only hope with such a surgeon. It is a result of that "any surgeon will do" philosophy. I know you probably scan a lot of posts just as moderator but If you will read this topic (and dozens of others) with more than a quick scan AND with an open mind to see what is going on, you will note all the men just on this topic with a Titan who gained after surgery. Pumpitup ended up larger than he had ever been in his life - Smetro gained 3/4" after surgery - Recent Implant regained pre-surgery size. In other threads, Merrix ended up bigger than any time in his life. I was promised my pre-surgical size of 6 1/4" I am now 6 1/2 " just 7 weeks after surgery and I don't even cycle every day like I should.

It is time to stop with the blind propaganda that an LGX makes men longer. No high volume surgeon I know, that knows how to do an implant and who uses both brands promotes such nonsense. Even AMS does not advertise that and trust me, if the LGX had such an advantage, they would promote it in skywriting. The word would spread like wildfire and men WITHOUT ED would flock to them. They advertise that it will give you a smaller flaccid penis for the locker room not a longer penis for the bedroom.

[Hawkman]

I'm sorry that you don't agree with me, that is unfortunate but my opinion is my opinion and they results of studies and patients reviews are clear.

Larry, I would be VERY interested in the results of those studies that show that men implanted with LGX end up with greater gains than men implanted with the Titan (by surgeons that know how to implant). Where are those studies that show greater length gains in comparison to pre-surgery measurements with the LGX? I think you are projecting bias rather than first-hand knowledge or clinical studies and alluding to non-existent studies to back up your bias.

Also, where are all these posts about men whose wives are complaining that their dicks do not look natural or that they are too hard? (even most newbies know you can choose the degree of hardness). I frankly don't think on a board of close to one hundred thousand posts you can show me more than ten which of course = one in ten thousand posts. Or, out of thousands of members, how many individuals had their wives complain. In my opinion, the impression you try to leave is just transparently false information.

I can also read, and surgeons I have researched and talked to in person that implant both models openly and publicly refute the very points you just posted as "true".

My comment about soft for the locker room was directed at the FACT that the LGX IS SMALLER for the locker room. A Titan "looks natural" unless by unnatural you mean it looks bigger. I am looking at one now and I have looked at more than a couple others in person not to mention dozens (maybe hundreds) of photos, so again, that description can be demonstrated to be false. The LGX was designed to give a deflated state that shrinks and feels more natural in the deflated state. That's their claim, that's their delivery. Why would the company hide it if they had finally broken the code to the greatest quest of men since prehistoric times? The answer is very apparent, they wouldn't hide it. It would be advertised on billboards and afternoon TV programming. Instead, it is refuted by the surgeons that are recognized leaders in the field of implants.

In keeping with Best Practices of actually backing up posted claims with documentation, I will post the words of Andrew Kramer, a surgeon who implants primarily LGX. For those too busy to watch I will summarize. He states:
1) Question: "Will the length be greater with the LGX" ---- Answer: "No, not at all"
2) "Length will be the same because you size it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPId-OVzag

[Hawkman]

Thank you, Larry. Can I assume that means I won't be getting any more obscene PM's from the moderator cursing and raving over your opinions be challenged? The consensus is that is the one unforgivable sin on FT. I just won't be intimidated by tantrums

[justanotherdrumber]

I'm sorry that you don't agree with me, that is unfortunate but my opinion is my opinion and they results of studies and patients reviews are clear.

Larry, I would be VERY interested in the results of those studies that show that men implanted with LGX end up with greater gains than men implanted with the Titan (by surgeons that know how to implant). Where are those studies that show greater length gains in comparison to pre-surgery measurements with the LGX? I think you are projecting bias rather than first-hand knowledge or clinical studies and alluding to non-existent studies to back up your bias.

Also, where are all these posts about men whose wives are complaining that their dicks do not look natural or that they are too hard? (even most newbies know you can choose the degree of hardness). I frankly don't think on a board of close to one hundred thousand posts you can show me more than ten which of course = one in ten thousand posts. Or, out of thousands of members, how many individuals had their wives complain. In my opinion, the impression you try to leave is just transparently false information.

I can also read, and surgeons I have researched and talked to in person that implant both models openly and publicly refute the very points you just posted as "true".

My comment about soft for the locker room was directed at the FACT that the LGX IS SMALLER for the locker room. A Titan "looks natural" unless by unnatural you mean it looks bigger. I am looking at one now and I have looked at more than a couple others in person not to mention dozens (maybe hundreds) of photos, so again, that description can be demonstrated to be false. The LGX was designed to give a deflated state that shrinks and feels more natural in the deflated state. That's their claim, that's their delivery. Why would the company hide it if they had finally broken the code to the greatest quest of men since prehistoric times? The answer is very apparent, they wouldn't hide it. It would be advertised on billboards and afternoon TV programming. Instead, it is refuted by the surgeons that are recognized leaders in the field of implants.

In keeping with Best Practices of actually backing up posted claims with documentation, I will post the words of Andrew Kramer, a surgeon who implants primarily LGX. For those too busy to watch I will summarize. He states:
1) Question: "Will the length be greater with the LGX" ---- Answer: "No, not at all"
2) "Length will be the same because you size it"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPId-OVzag

Ya know, I just give up. Now I know what people mean when the PM me with complaints about you and say, "you know everything, just ask you" I thought you just might be getting better... guess not. I have much better things to do than argue with you.

Larry

Quote by Hawkman:

"I can also read, and surgeons I have researched and talked to in person that implant both models openly and publicly refute the very points you just posted as "true".

Just how many. "Surgeons have you talked to in person that actually implant both [AMS & Coloplast] models ?

1. My research is that the majority of surgeons utilize one brand over the other because:

2. The facility they implant at only supplies one "brand" implant. Either AMS or Coloplast.

3. There are many models, CX, CXR, LGX and Titan .

4. Normally, ... "a patients" experience/exposure would be limited to only a few actual implant surgeons, unless of course they were writing an actual research paper for college or a medical journal.

Could you please list "ALL" the surgeons that you spoke to"personally" that actually implant "both"BRANDS" of IPP ?

[Hawkman]

Could you please list "ALL" the surgeons that you spoke to"personally" that actually implant "both"BRANDS" of IPP ?

I have only spoken two three personally: Dr. Eid, Dr. Kramer, and a somewhat local surgeon at a medical center 75 miles from me. I do not recall his name because although he seemed like an outstanding guy, during the examination he said he only did about 10 to 12 per year because there just was no more demand. I immediately dismissed him as an option. He leaned toward the LGX.

BTW: All three refute a length advantage with the LGX. In fact, they are very clear and adamant about it. The video I posted is just one tiny reference. There are enough such authoritative statements to wallpaper the forum as you might know. They are certainly widely available.

[Bigred]

Kramer ask me which one I’d prefer. He said it was my choice.

[oldbeek]

My surgeon at a large teaching hospital uses both Coloplast and AMS. Titans for guys over 7 inch and AMS LGX for those 6 and under. They hang better. He also said the ams will expand to the full size of my tunica. So if my tunica shrunk up after RP, the proper LGX would push out to my previous size. I think he fit me pretty close to what I was but am waiting to see if it will stretch out. After RP, I have no natural glans engorgement or other flesh engorgement to add to the circumference of my dick. Comparing it to my trimix size, I was 5.5 inch round. Now I am 4.5 inch oval. All the tunica filling in the world is not going to replace the natural engorgment of the rest of my junk. He says pump daily and I will be back to original length in 2 years less the loss of the full glans.