Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
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Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
My injection instructions do not indicate to do this???
68 years old; ED for 30 years; implanted by Dr Kramer on August 27, 2019; 18 cm with 1 cm RTE
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
edwardl007 wrote:My injection instructions do not indicate to do this???
It's called aspirate... Anytime anyone give you an injection they are suppose to aspirate to ensure that they are not (or are) in a vein.
Larry
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
Aspirating and getting blood proves you have hit the right spot. Then if the result is not satisfactory, you can adjust dose or strength of the trimix.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
I'm not a medical professional of any kind. Anything I post is based on my own experiences at best and hallucination or delusion at worst. Nothing I post should be misconstrued as medical advice. Always ask your doctor and follow his/her advice.
Did your doctor do a demonstration shot with you while in his office? I so did it work?
I do not aspirate. However, I have experimented with it and there does seem to be some validity to the practice. As it relates to dick sticking it's mainly the practice of drawing some blood back into the syringe to help determine if you're in the correct spot. If you aren't in the correct spot it will be very difficult to pull the plunger back to aspirate. That usually means you need to try a little deeper, although in some cases it could mean you went too deep. When in the correct spot/depth it will be fairly easy to pull the plunger back and draw a little blood into the syringe.
With me, if I'm not deep enough and try to pull back on the plunger it acts like it's strongly spring loaded. I'll, with difficulty, pull it back but when I let it go it returns to where it was. A case of creating a vacuum I guess.
Some also like to do a sort of version of aspiration AFTER injecting the drugs. They press the plunger down firmly after all of the meds are in so that when the pressure is released it creates a little vacuum and pulls in a drop of blood in confirming, after the fact, that placement was correct. I don't really get that technique as it is, after all, after the fact.
I don't aspirate but just use the plunger resistance technique. Insert needle the expected correct depth and gently try depressing the plunger. If it doesn't depress fairly easily you aren't in the correct spot/depth. Go deeper and try again, etc. Using the smallest volume syringe that will hold the required volume of meds makes determining resistance easier. If you're having to force the meds in you're incorrectly placed.
Be sure to read as many of the old posts in the injection sub-forum as you can stand. There's some stuff in there worth reading.
Good luck.
Did your doctor do a demonstration shot with you while in his office? I so did it work?
I do not aspirate. However, I have experimented with it and there does seem to be some validity to the practice. As it relates to dick sticking it's mainly the practice of drawing some blood back into the syringe to help determine if you're in the correct spot. If you aren't in the correct spot it will be very difficult to pull the plunger back to aspirate. That usually means you need to try a little deeper, although in some cases it could mean you went too deep. When in the correct spot/depth it will be fairly easy to pull the plunger back and draw a little blood into the syringe.
With me, if I'm not deep enough and try to pull back on the plunger it acts like it's strongly spring loaded. I'll, with difficulty, pull it back but when I let it go it returns to where it was. A case of creating a vacuum I guess.
Some also like to do a sort of version of aspiration AFTER injecting the drugs. They press the plunger down firmly after all of the meds are in so that when the pressure is released it creates a little vacuum and pulls in a drop of blood in confirming, after the fact, that placement was correct. I don't really get that technique as it is, after all, after the fact.
I don't aspirate but just use the plunger resistance technique. Insert needle the expected correct depth and gently try depressing the plunger. If it doesn't depress fairly easily you aren't in the correct spot/depth. Go deeper and try again, etc. Using the smallest volume syringe that will hold the required volume of meds makes determining resistance easier. If you're having to force the meds in you're incorrectly placed.
Be sure to read as many of the old posts in the injection sub-forum as you can stand. There's some stuff in there worth reading.
Good luck.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
oldbeek wrote:Aspirating and getting blood proves you have hit the right spot. Then if the result is not satisfactory, you can adjust dose or strength of the trimix.
Really? You are supposed to hit the vein??
Larry
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
I know I'm in the right spot when the plunger almost pushes itself.
Married 42 years. Heart attack at 58. Stented. CAD. Heart meds along with the CAD are raising hell with Willy's willingness to come out and play. Sildenafil works, but with annoying side effects. We're having a VERY enjoyable experience with Trimix!
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
Before implant and when I used Trimix, I used an Autoject. No way could I aspirate any blood before injection. Reading these replies I sense a contradiction. Being able to aspirate blood could indicate being in a vein or artery or is it in the cavernosa? (sp) My Dr. didn't mention aspiration.
80; married 57 years; HBP well controlled, overweight. Prostate Arterial Embolization Jan 2017: No indication of cancer. Injections failed. Implanted Nov. 2, 2018. Dr. Karin Dolan, Billings, Mt. AMS LGX 15 cm+2 2.5 cm RTE. 65 ml reservoir.
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
Larry and Wyoman. the blood comes from the cavernosa. I did not aspirate before. I just wanted assurance that I hit the cavernosa so I aspirate a little blood after injection.
82, good health, RP 7-2017, all nerves taken , PSA 0.05, 4-18,, .07 1/19,.05 4/19, .03 11-21, .04 11-23, implanted 4-1-18, Infra-pubic, AMS lgx 15 cm with 5cm rte. Implant at USC Keck. Dr Boyd and Dr Loh Doyle 6.5 x 5, 800 AUS 7-21-20
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
oldbeek wrote:Larry and Wyoman. the blood comes from the cavernosa. I did not aspirate before. I just wanted assurance that I hit the cavernosa so I aspirate a little blood after injection.
That's strange you should have only been able to draw blood from a vein or artery.
Larry
Re: Why are some injecting and pulling some blood out?
Larry,
I'm obviously not a medical professional but it's my understanding the tissue of the corpus cavernosum is sponge like and saturated with blood even when flaccid thereby making it easy to draw blood from it. That seems to be the case from my experiments. However, I don't generally aspirate as I don't see the need.
I'm obviously not a medical professional but it's my understanding the tissue of the corpus cavernosum is sponge like and saturated with blood even when flaccid thereby making it easy to draw blood from it. That seems to be the case from my experiments. However, I don't generally aspirate as I don't see the need.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
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