Question for ams owners

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Gt1956
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby Gt1956 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:33 pm

Thisworld wrote:I've heard quite a bit about this—many people with AMS mention that during deflation, the AMS pump makes a buzzing noise and causes a vibration. I'm curious to learn more about this, particularly how loud the noise is. Is it noticeable enough for your partner to perceive it?

Also, do you think the new Tenacio model might have the same characteristic?

Thanks in advance!

I have excellent hearing. Until I retired I had a yearly hearing exam. Only had my baseline reset once in over 42 years. I could hear the staff talking while I was in the testing booth. They vehemently denied that it was possible until I told them what they said.

What people call a buzzing noise is misleading to me. Its a light vibration for maybe a few seconds. Nothing is audible in my case. My pump is high so if anyone could hear their pump it should be me. If I let go of the pump I quit feeling the vibration. One very slight squeeze & I let it deflate on its own. Never squeezed my cylinder to drain it. Its never auto inflated.

In my opinion, this vibration is a non event & is very way overblown. My IPP is almost eighteen months old. So it is the old style pump. Details are in my sigmature.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

oldog12
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby oldog12 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:44 am

wolfpacker wrote:
oldog12 wrote:2 1/2 years with my AMX CX. No sound in mine pumping up, but do feel a very slight buzz-vibration when deflating. There is a weak hissing sound, also, that I doubt a partner would notice unless in complete silence.


How do you like it?


Love it! Wish I had done it 10 yrs earlier.
Age 70; Radical prostatectomy 11/2018; Married 46+ yrs.
AMS 700 CX Jan. 6, 2022 with Dr. Shawn Blick/Phoenix

oldog12
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby oldog12 » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:21 am

Let me clarify this: I wish I had it done soon after my prostatectomy. That was the big change in my life and body that precipitated severe ED problems.
Age 70; Radical prostatectomy 11/2018; Married 46+ yrs.
AMS 700 CX Jan. 6, 2022 with Dr. Shawn Blick/Phoenix

GoNavy
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby GoNavy » Sun Aug 11, 2024 3:29 pm

I have an AMS 700 CX model, the deflation sound is actually subtle. My experience is if you don’t hear the soft whining noise it might not be deflating. The tubing diameter is where the noise comes from - according to the medical personnel at the doctors office. Now the Tenacio pump on the other hand is somewhat smaller and supposed to be more efficient, 30% less pumps for inflation.
U.S. Navy Veteran, Age 47. April 09 2024 implant surgery by Dr. Blick in Phoenix Arizona, via Penoscrotal method AMS 700 CX 21cm 0 rte. Measurements identical to before surgery- no loss- possibly larger at glans area and 2cm below.

Thisworld
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby Thisworld » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:17 am

GoNavy wrote:I have an AMS 700 CX model, the deflation sound is actually subtle. My experience is if you don’t hear the soft whining noise it might not be deflating. The tubing diameter is where the noise comes from - according to the medical personnel at the doctors office. Now the Tenacio pump on the other hand is somewhat smaller and supposed to be more efficient, 30% less pumps for inflation.


Thanks for your input! I’m curious, though—how does a smaller pump like the Tenacio require fewer pumps to reach maximum inflation? I would have thought that a smaller pump would need more pumps, not less. Could you explain?
Hard flaccid syndrome since 2019. Trying to get better with conservative treatments but an implant is on my radar

GoNavy
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby GoNavy » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:21 am

This is straight from the Boston scientific product page for the Tenacio pump.

https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/ ... nacio.html

Independent Valving System
The TENACIO Pump introduces independent valve systems, which are thoughtfully engineered to maximize reliability across a wide user profile and to address potential causes of sticky pump.1
Key intended benefits:
Independent valving is designed to enable pump activation regardless of fast (2.5 in/s) or slow (0.25 in/s) squeeze rates.
In bench testing conducted by BSC (n=5), the TENACIO pump was found to have a 27% faster refill rate as compared to MS Pump.*1
Designed to maintain consistent performance throughout an expected implant life of 10 years (corresponding to 1,000 uses).
U.S. Navy Veteran, Age 47. April 09 2024 implant surgery by Dr. Blick in Phoenix Arizona, via Penoscrotal method AMS 700 CX 21cm 0 rte. Measurements identical to before surgery- no loss- possibly larger at glans area and 2cm below.

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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby Thisworld » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:45 am

GoNavy wrote:This is straight from the Boston scientific product page for the Tenacio pump.

https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/ ... nacio.html

Independent Valving System
The TENACIO Pump introduces independent valve systems, which are thoughtfully engineered to maximize reliability across a wide user profile and to address potential causes of sticky pump.1
Key intended benefits:
Independent valving is designed to enable pump activation regardless of fast (2.5 in/s) or slow (0.25 in/s) squeeze rates.
In bench testing conducted by BSC (n=5), the TENACIO pump was found to have a 27% faster refill rate as compared to MS Pump.*1
Designed to maintain consistent performance throughout an expected implant life of 10 years (corresponding to 1,000 uses).



I see, thanks for sharing! So it’s more about allowing for faster pumping rather than needing fewer pumps overall.
Hard flaccid syndrome since 2019. Trying to get better with conservative treatments but an implant is on my radar

Dutchie
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby Dutchie » Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:40 am

My AMS pump definitely makes a noise when deflating which my partner can hear. Inflating no noise at all.
Dutch male born 1978. Post Finasteride Syndrome induced ED. LGX 21, 1rte, implanted 10th april 2024, Dr. Andrianne, CHU Liège.

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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby newhope » Mon Aug 12, 2024 7:16 am

GoNavy wrote:This is straight from the Boston scientific product page for the Tenacio pump.

https://www.bostonscientific.com/en-US/ ... nacio.html

Independent Valving System
The TENACIO Pump introduces independent valve systems, which are thoughtfully engineered to maximize reliability across a wide user profile and to address potential causes of sticky pump.1
Key intended benefits:
Independent valving is designed to enable pump activation regardless of fast (2.5 in/s) or slow (0.25 in/s) squeeze rates.
In bench testing conducted by BSC (n=5), the TENACIO pump was found to have a 27% faster refill rate as compared to MS Pump.*1
Designed to maintain consistent performance throughout an expected implant life of 10 years (corresponding to 1,000 uses).


1000 uses is simple non-sense. If you cycle 3x daily for the first year you already surpass 1000 uses. These things should be tested for 100'000 uses not 1'000
LGX 18 + 1, 90 cc. 2023/12
Pre-OP VED length: 5.5". Post-OP: 4". At 3 months post-op: 5".
Cycling with a lot of pain for the first 5 months, now improving
If you have a motorcycle or a bike stop using it (ED with motorcycle accident).

Gt1956
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Re: Question for ams owners

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:23 pm

Thisworld wrote:
GoNavy wrote:I have an AMS 700 CX model, the deflation sound is actually subtle. My experience is if you don’t hear the soft whining noise it might not be deflating. The tubing diameter is where the noise comes from - according to the medical personnel at the doctors office. Now the Tenacio pump on the other hand is somewhat smaller and supposed to be more efficient, 30% less pumps for inflation.

Thanks for your input! I’m curious, though—how does a smaller pump like the Tenacio require fewer pumps to reach maximum inflation? I would have thought that a smaller pump would need more pumps, not less. Could you explain?

There might be a slight misunderstanding. Boston Scientific uses the words "refill rate". I take that to mean that AFTER a pump. The bulb refills from the reservoir quicker. Thus the pump is ready for another squeeze quicker. Remember, the pump not only pumps out saline but it needs to suck in saline for the next squeeze.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months


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