Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby Rider1400 » Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:18 am

I agree with most here. I had some discomfort for several months around the 3-5 month range with dog ears. After that they seem to become a non issue. Think it’s a combination of your tissue getting toughened up and your cylinders getting softer. I’ve only heard one person on FT that got a revision because of the discomfort of his titan. Given time(8-12 months) any dog ears are a total non issue! I notice mine on left side but if I dig around I can feel the one on my left cylinder but it’s on the inside next to the urethra so not noticeable to the touch. I also found that a couple pumps makes them go away but leaves your dick sticking out just a little more than I wish. So as others say I stopped squeezing it dry when deflating. I simply deflate til it’s balanced then bend my dick over my finger for a second.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby Madecov » Fri Oct 11, 2024 2:32 pm

I had my Titan Classic implanted this past June. I have very minor dog ears, predominantly on my left side. Not painful. Mine are small enough that I just ignore it.
Overall I'm very happy with my Titan, I have a mistrust of Boston Scientific due to having two bad experiences. More than likely, the bad experience has more to do with a surgeon who claimed to be high volume, but probably wasn't
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby returntocenter » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:42 pm

Gt1956 wrote:Sorry, I wish that I had an answer for you. I have plenty of girth but I do have one dog ear. I have an at least average length implant. CX 21cm & its all implant....no RTE's. I have don't have a long flacid, I suspect mainly because I have a deep cruz.

All I can tell you is that the very first time I felt it. I kind of rubbed it to see what it was. It hurt, a burning kind of pain. Bad enough that I didn't investigate any further. A note to self moment "don't do that again dummy". My next nurses appointment I told her that I thought that I had a dog ear. She said most likely I did indeed find one. She didn't look at it either. If you've ever kinked a hose to stop the water flow. You know exactly what it looks like. And yes, at least in my case that first painfull expierence was not a fun one.

Now for the good part. After that first time. Everytime I've happened to feel it. It has hurt less & less. To the point that I can rub it now & feel no pain. I suspect that if I was to get aggressive, I could feel pain. I didn't make any notes about it but I think from pain to no pain only took a month or two. Perhaps only two weeks were true pain. After that it was just a discomfort. When I deflate, I do not squeeze any saline out. I let the IPP deflate to where it wants to be. No pumps are required to make the dog ear comfortable. Also, I only had one dog ear. I always hung to the left & my DE is on the right. I don't understand why on the right. Intuition makes me think the left would point out more. I'm glad that I only had one DE. I think some Titan owners have implied that they have two DE's. Also, I think that some Titan owners have implied that their DE's were painful for longer than mine was.

Overall, at least for me. My CX DE was not a very big problem. I can feel it when flacid, if I straighten out, it goes away. No discomfort at all. Seventeen months post surgery now.


GT, is the dog ear when flaccid rigid or pointy enough that if you rubbed again your partner, they would feel it against them? Say if you were spooning in bed? This is one of my concerns when getting an implant, since I'm single and it's a pretty common position when cuddling. If I have to give it a couple of pumps I will, but I wonder how concealable the AMS implant is in that position when totally deflated.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby returntocenter » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:44 pm

Madecov wrote:I had my Titan Classic implanted this past June. I have very minor dog ears, predominantly on my left side. Not painful. Mine are small enough that I just ignore it.
Overall I'm very happy with my Titan, I have a mistrust of Boston Scientific due to having two bad experiences. More than likely, the bad experience has more to do with a surgeon who claimed to be high volume, but probably wasn't


Do you know what your flaccid girth was before your surgery Madecov? I'm 4" flaccid so I wonder whether I would have a worse time with the Titans wider cylinders.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby returntocenter » Sun Oct 13, 2024 1:51 pm

sambalamba wrote:I don't know if this topic has been covered in before.

I’m trying to understand what type of penile anatomy is more prone to experiencing dog ears with the Titan implant. From what I’ve gathered, it seems like factors such as flaccid girth, length, and the amount of tissue in the flaccid state might play a role, but I’m unsure of how these factors specifically contribute. Is it possible that having more tissue when flaccid helps prevent dog ears by offering better coverage around the implant cylinders? Or could it be that individuals with less girth or shorter length when flaccid are more susceptible due to less tissue available to cover the cylinders properly?

I’m currently leaning toward choosing the Titan implant because of its rigidity and durability, but worried about issues like dog ears, which I’ve heard can affect both the aesthetic and comfort. My flaccid measurements are 4" in girth and 4" in length, so I’m particularly interested in hearing from others with similar dimensions or those who can shed light on how different anatomies may influence the likelihood of experiencing dog ears. Any insights or experiences you can share would be greatly appreciated, as I’m trying to make the most informed decision possible.


As a datapoint, Clavell and Eid have both said I would be a good candidate for the AMS (CX) given my penis is on the thinner side (4" girth x 4.5" in length when flaccid). Sounds like you are more of a grower than I am though. My only concern with the AMS its apparent lower resistance against the scar capsule formation compared to the Titan. I will make a post about this soon.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby wolfpacker » Sun Oct 13, 2024 2:20 pm

returntocenter wrote:
sambalamba wrote:I don't know if this topic has been covered in before.

I’m trying to understand what type of penile anatomy is more prone to experiencing dog ears with the Titan implant. From what I’ve gathered, it seems like factors such as flaccid girth, length, and the amount of tissue in the flaccid state might play a role, but I’m unsure of how these factors specifically contribute. Is it possible that having more tissue when flaccid helps prevent dog ears by offering better coverage around the implant cylinders? Or could it be that individuals with less girth or shorter length when flaccid are more susceptible due to less tissue available to cover the cylinders properly?

I’m currently leaning toward choosing the Titan implant because of its rigidity and durability, but worried about issues like dog ears, which I’ve heard can affect both the aesthetic and comfort. My flaccid measurements are 4" in girth and 4" in length, so I’m particularly interested in hearing from others with similar dimensions or those who can shed light on how different anatomies may influence the likelihood of experiencing dog ears. Any insights or experiences you can share would be greatly appreciated, as I’m trying to make the most informed decision possible.


As a datapoint, Clavell and Eid have both said I would be a good candidate for the AMS (CX) given my penis is on the thinner side (4" girth x 4.5" in length when flaccid). Sounds like you are more of a grower than I am though. My only concern with the AMS its apparent lower resistance against the scar capsule formation compared to the Titan. I will make a post about this soon.


I agree with that, I think the titan was too big to fit comfortably inside my cavernosa. I'm also on the thinner side. The CX feels much better
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby Madecov » Sun Oct 13, 2024 3:26 pm

returntocenter wrote:
Madecov wrote:I had my Titan Classic implanted this past June. I have very minor dog ears, predominantly on my left side. Not painful. Mine are small enough that I just ignore it.
Overall I'm very happy with my Titan, I have a mistrust of Boston Scientific due to having two bad experiences. More than likely, the bad experience has more to do with a surgeon who claimed to be high volume, but probably wasn't


Do you know what your flaccid girth was before your surgery Madecov? I'm 4" flaccid so I wonder whether I would have a worse time with the Titans wider cylinders.


I'm probably also in the 4" range. I never measured. I do know that with the Titan I have more girth
I've recovered most of my length. Dr. Clavell did recommend the Titan. But I had 2 bad experiences with the AMS700.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby Gt1956 » Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:49 pm

returntocenter wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Sorry, I wish that I had an answer for you. I have plenty of girth but I do have one dog ear. I have an at least average length implant. CX 21cm & its all implant....no RTE's. I have don't have a long flacid, I suspect mainly because I have a deep cruz.

All I can tell you is that the very first time I felt it. I kind of rubbed it to see what it was. It hurt, a burning kind of pain. Bad enough that I didn't investigate any further. A note to self moment "don't do that again dummy". My next nurses appointment I told her that I thought that I had a dog ear. She said most likely I did indeed find one. She didn't look at it either. If you've ever kinked a hose to stop the water flow. You know exactly what it looks like. And yes, at least in my case that first painfull expierence was not a fun one.

Now for the good part. After that first time. Everytime I've happened to feel it. It has hurt less & less. To the point that I can rub it now & feel no pain. I suspect that if I was to get aggressive, I could feel pain. I didn't make any notes about it but I think from pain to no pain only took a month or two. Perhaps only two weeks were true pain. After that it was just a discomfort. When I deflate, I do not squeeze any saline out. I let the IPP deflate to where it wants to be. No pumps are required to make the dog ear comfortable. Also, I only had one dog ear. I always hung to the left & my DE is on the right. I don't understand why on the right. Intuition makes me think the left would point out more. I'm glad that I only had one DE. I think some Titan owners have implied that they have two DE's. Also, I think that some Titan owners have implied that their DE's were painful for longer than mine was.

Overall, at least for me. My CX DE was not a very big problem. I can feel it when flacid, if I straighten out, it goes away. No discomfort at all. Seventeen months post surgery now.


GT, is the dog ear when flaccid rigid or pointy enough that if you rubbed again your partner, they would feel it against them? Say if you were spooning in bed? This is one of my concerns when getting an implant, since I'm single and it's a pretty common position when cuddling. If I have to give it a couple of pumps I will, but I wonder how concealable the AMS implant is in that position when totally deflated.

You're reaching too far on this. The dog ears do not point forward so you can't stab anyone with it. They point left & right. Yes, flacid I can find mine. No pain at all if I touch it. After my last post I experimented with it. I think one pump it was either gone or mostly gone. I suspect that if I just raised my flacid up a little that the dog ear would go away. Its the bend that causes the dog ear. Remember this is only MY experience & I have a CX 21cm.
You're imagination is just running wild.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby returntocenter » Sun Oct 13, 2024 4:55 pm

Gt1956 wrote:
returntocenter wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:Sorry, I wish that I had an answer for you. I have plenty of girth but I do have one dog ear. I have an at least average length implant. CX 21cm & its all implant....no RTE's. I have don't have a long flacid, I suspect mainly because I have a deep cruz.

All I can tell you is that the very first time I felt it. I kind of rubbed it to see what it was. It hurt, a burning kind of pain. Bad enough that I didn't investigate any further. A note to self moment "don't do that again dummy". My next nurses appointment I told her that I thought that I had a dog ear. She said most likely I did indeed find one. She didn't look at it either. If you've ever kinked a hose to stop the water flow. You know exactly what it looks like. And yes, at least in my case that first painfull expierence was not a fun one.

Now for the good part. After that first time. Everytime I've happened to feel it. It has hurt less & less. To the point that I can rub it now & feel no pain. I suspect that if I was to get aggressive, I could feel pain. I didn't make any notes about it but I think from pain to no pain only took a month or two. Perhaps only two weeks were true pain. After that it was just a discomfort. When I deflate, I do not squeeze any saline out. I let the IPP deflate to where it wants to be. No pumps are required to make the dog ear comfortable. Also, I only had one dog ear. I always hung to the left & my DE is on the right. I don't understand why on the right. Intuition makes me think the left would point out more. I'm glad that I only had one DE. I think some Titan owners have implied that they have two DE's. Also, I think that some Titan owners have implied that their DE's were painful for longer than mine was.

Overall, at least for me. My CX DE was not a very big problem. I can feel it when flacid, if I straighten out, it goes away. No discomfort at all. Seventeen months post surgery now.


GT, is the dog ear when flaccid rigid or pointy enough that if you rubbed again your partner, they would feel it against them? Say if you were spooning in bed? This is one of my concerns when getting an implant, since I'm single and it's a pretty common position when cuddling. If I have to give it a couple of pumps I will, but I wonder how concealable the AMS implant is in that position when totally deflated.

You're reaching too far on this. The dog ears do not point forward so you can't stab anyone with it. They point left & right. Yes, flacid I can find mine. No pain at all if I touch it. After my last post I experimented with it. I think one pump it was either gone or mostly gone. I suspect that if I just raised my flacid up a little that the dog ear would go away. Its the bend that causes the dog ear. Remember this is only MY experience & I have a CX 21cm.
You're imagination is just running wild.


Ok that's great to hear.
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Re: Anatomical Factors That Contribute to Dog Ears with the Titan Implant

Postby sambalamba » Sun Oct 13, 2024 6:31 pm

Guys,

Here is my datapoint:

I have visited Dr. Hakky/Clavell/Eid. Dr. Clavell initially told me that CX would be the best fit for me after doing a stretch test. But both Dr. Eid and Hakky told me they prefer the titan for me with Eid going as far as telling me that Titan is my only choice. They both gave me an estimate of 22cm to 24cm and said that with AMS 21cm being max size without special order titan is the way to go to avoid rear tip extenders. They both want to avoid rear tip extenders if possible. When I went back to Clavell and told him that I'm leaning towards the Titan he then said that would be a good choice as well.

But I'm really trying to figure out how terrible this dog ears thingy is. I don't much care about the look but do care about discomfort.

Many folks here like some of you in this thread and on the board says just a few pumps and no issues whatsoever. Others on the board have issues with dog ears.

Was trying to figure out if there is some anatomical trait that makes one more prone to DEs than others. Looks like there is no clear answer.
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