Study. Longer implant scrotally than infrapubic.

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Re: Study. Longer implant scrotally than infrapubic.

Postby hard drive » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:18 pm

alibaba wrote:So what you are saying it the study is fraudulent, that a lot of doctors spent a lot of time keeping track of records and numbers and they either put down numbers that were wrong or the doctors did not know what they were doing in the study?


I said nothing of the sort... I said there is more information needed to avoid misunderstanding of the synopsis and I don't have time to type it all out right now.
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Re: Study. Longer implant scrotally than infrapubic.

Postby alibaba » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:04 pm

I see you edited your comment, something I have never figured out how to do nor has anyone told me when I asked.
You stated " There is no size advantage or disadvantage to either type of procedure" which would dispute the findings of the study.
Then you in your edit state in pretty blue underlined print: "it has more to do with the doctor's judgement rather than a measurement device."

I agree with your bold type statement, though you must look at the doctors who participated in the study and they were not a bunch of low volume hacks. The high volume doctors were only allowed 10 patients in the study to not skew the findings.

Maybe I did not explain things well or we have a personality clash. I do not explain things well when tired and I apologize. I've spent 25 years as a liaison between engineers, politicians, scientists and researchers explaining things in a way that they "get it" and quite successfully which has helped me enjoy it and learn a lot, but more often on these forums I seem to fail in the effort.
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Re: Study. Longer implant scrotally than infrapubic.

Postby hard drive » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:32 pm

alibaba wrote:I see you edited your comment, something I have never figured out how to do nor has anyone told me when I asked.
You stated " There is no size advantage or disadvantage to either type of procedure" which would dispute the findings of the study.
Then you in your edit state in pretty blue underlined print: "it has more to do with the doctor's judgement rather than a measurement device."

I agree with your bold type statement, though you must look at the doctors who participated in the study and they were not a bunch of low volume hacks. The high volume doctors were only allowed 10 patients in the study to not skew the findings.

Maybe I did not explain things well or we have a personality clash. I do not explain things well when tired and I apologize. I've spent 25 years as a liaison between engineers, politicians, scientists and researchers explaining things in a way that they "get it" and quite successfully which has helped me enjoy it and learn a lot, but more often on these forums I seem to fail in the effort.


The bolded blue statement was already there. I just went back and highlighted it and changed the color for emphasis.

I edited my statement to emphasize my point, I didn't really change anything. I thought perhaps I was unclear, but I never said anything like you implied. I don't think we have a personality clash and I'm not offended. I just think you misunderstood my meaning, so I tried to clarify. Nothing to get upset about, and no harm in disagreeing.

I never said anything was fraudulent. That would be an accusation of intent to deceive and I certainly wouldn't do that. Please don't put words in my mouth. If you inferred fraudulence from my post, then I felt the need to make myself clear. There is a big difference between a reader misunderstanding and a writer making fraudulent statements.

I tend to edit every message after reading it back. I always find errors. Especially when using my iPad and being sedated while typing flat on my back with the screen overhead. I'll probably edit this post right after I hit the submit button and read it back to myself.

Oh, about editing your posts, up at the top of your post, just to the left of the quote button, you'll see an edit button. Just press the edit button and make any corrections or additions as needed.
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Re: Study. Longer implant scrotally than infrapubic.

Postby hard drive » Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:54 pm

alibaba wrote:I see you edited your comment, something I have never figured out how to do nor has anyone told me when I asked.
You stated " There is no size advantage or disadvantage to either type of procedure" which would dispute the findings of the study.
Then you in your edit state in pretty blue underlined print: "it has more to do with the doctor's judgement rather than a measurement device."

I agree with your bold type statement, though you must look at the doctors who participated in the study and they were not a bunch of low volume hacks. The high volume doctors were only allowed 10 patients in the study to not skew the findings.

Maybe I did not explain things well or we have a personality clash. I do not explain things well when tired and I apologize. I've spent 25 years as a liaison between engineers, politicians, scientists and researchers explaining things in a way that they "get it" and quite successfully which has helped me enjoy it and learn a lot, but more often on these forums I seem to fail in the effort.


The bolded blue statement was already in the post (but not bold or blue originally). I just went back and highlighted it and changed the color for emphasis.

I edited my statement to emphasize my point, I didn't really change anything. I thought perhaps I was unclear, but I never said anything like you implied. I don't think we have a personality clash and I'm not offended. I just think you misunderstood my meaning, so I tried to clarify. Nothing to get upset about, and no harm in disagreeing.

I never said anything was fraudulent. That would be an accusation of intent to deceive and I certainly wouldn't do that. Please don't put words in my mouth. If you inferred fraudulence from my post, then I felt the need to make myself clear. There is a big difference between a reader misunderstanding and a writer making fraudulent statements.

A sampling of only 10 patients is purely anecdotal evidence and shouldn't be taken as representative of all the ED patients and their doctors at large. When I feel better, and don't have to defend my opinion so much, I'll explain more clearly. As already stated, I should have just avoided this thread.

I tend to edit every message after reading it back. I always find errors. Especially when using my iPad and being sedated while typing flat on my back with the screen overhead. I'll probably edit this post right after I hit the submit button and read it back to myself.

Oh, about editing your posts, up at the top of your post, just to the left of the quote button, you'll see an edit button. Just press the edit button and make any corrections or additions as needed.
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