Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
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LastHope
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
If I snagged a good insurance or a Powerball jackpot tomorrow
, I'd only go for the gold-standard IPP until 3 infections knocks me out. That way I can die with my proud MPP (or totally fibrosed corpora) and satisfaction thinking, I tried my 100% best to fight this ED.
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Wooody
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
LetoMan wrote:tooyoung wrote:plz elaborate.
Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts.
Be well (particularly you),
Leto
He does this on Reddit too. Uses the same FT screenshots with same annotations and highlights, same studies, same comments etc.. using multiple accounts
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Titan Classic 22cm + 1cm RTEs - 2/25 - Dr Karpman, Bay Area CA
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LastHope
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
tooyoung wrote:LastHope wrote:If I snagged a good insurance or a Powerball jackpot tomorrow, I'd only go for the gold-standard IPP until 3 infections knocks me out. That way I can die with my proud MPP (or totally fibrosed corpora) and satisfaction thinking, I tried my 100% best to fight this ED.
Hahahahahahahaha plz make more memes![]()
Sometimes 1 infection is sufficient for that triumph though
That's true, TooYoung!
Thanks!
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Wooody
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
tooyoung wrote:Wooody wrote:LetoMan wrote:
Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts.
Be well (particularly you),
Leto
He does this on Reddit too. Uses the same FY screenshots with same annotations and highlights, same studies, same comments etc.. using multiple accounts
Why you and the letos out there have the right to use the same stupid deadly implant companies narrative..and I don't have the the right to use the same sources I gathered proving ipp reliability is shit ? I use other sources too revealing mpp drawbacks not talked about alot.
But yeah why would you bother working out your brains and refute or discuss these sources...throwing empty accusations is easier and better fit your persona.
As for reddit yes I used 2 accounts because the first got banned from a different sub due to ED unrelated reason.
But here I don't...you can ask the admin
It's entertaining that you don't face arguments and face the person...it doesn't matter if tooyoung is a troll or pumpless_mtfckr is AI...the argument is what matters...and this is the only thing that should be discussed otherwise it's a cheap escape.
Waaait a minuteyou and letos are the same guy
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...does that give me the right to cheaply and disgustingly escape your arguments ?
I have never escaped your argument so not sure what you're talking about. In fact I have directly addressed it in discussing Coloplast tube weakness and their effort to improve it. I have commented several times about wanting more reliability.
I think what I and others don't like is your approach. You insult members here regularly and are frankly, annoying with your non-stop IPP bashing. I will say that _some_ of your more recent posts have been more helpful and informative but then you go back to being your old self. You're not very likable, except to the MPP crowd.
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dj_soros
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
LetoMan wrote:tooyoung wrote:plz elaborate.
Well, you presumably already know (or maybe if the explanation is you are actually schizophrenic, you don’t), but for the benefit of others that are not following everything closely here, Dj_soros is one of your alt accounts. Like many of your other alt accounts, it was created in spring 2025, but only suddenly started posting here last week, not bothering with what most guys usually do here, which is an intro post or something similar about themselves before launching into your great anti-IPP crusade. Instead this alt just jumped straight into saying the exact things you say… as you yourself said, they could have come straight from your own mind.
I like figuring weird mysteries out, and as I pointed out in prior posts exposing you, figuring out that you are using multiple alt accounts was not that hard. But what is hard is figuring out your motives. With some of your other alt accounts like the pumpless foghorn leghorn guy and the neisser-whatever guy, you bother to try to disguise your writing by using ChatGPT or similar. But with this alt you are going in a different direction… this alt also claims to be 27, just like you claim to be, he really only interacts with you, he basically says the same things you say in a similar voice to you, and you are basically daring us to make the connection by joking that his views could be from your own mind.
So the mystery that I haven’t figured out about you is: Why? What is the purpose behind the alts and the different ways you use them? That I can’t figure out.
Someone in some movie once said that there isn’t always some motive behind why some men do things, some men just like to see the world burn. And I have to remind myself that that is the case with most internet trolls… they just do it for the lolz. Sowing division and causing confusion is their point. Why? Who knows.
But at the same time that I can see your efforts as silly and transparent, I can also admire the degree to which you go to use alts to create this super weird image of yourself as leading an army of young men opposed to the malicious ipp industry.
And that’s why I said this was elite level trolling. I mean, you are so deep into it that you probably think you crafted a strategy to “throw everyone off the scent” by, for example, having one alt account with an AI generated corn poke southern accent while also having another alt account that you are openly admitting is probably you. I mean, that’s a whole ‘nother level! I mean… are you actively trying to think up strategies to confuse the issue of whether you are using alts? That’s crazy! That’s a serious amount of effort to put in just so you can troll a little message board of guys whose dicks don’t work.
I suspect the way you thought this might play out is you could say something like “how is it that I am using alts that I deliberately hide their voice to make it seem like it’s not me, but then I am also using alts that are almost exactly like me?” And then you call me simple and illogical again.
But then who knows? Like I said, maybe you are not a troll and are just schizo and don’t realize you are just talking to yourself.
Be well (particularly you),
Leto
Goodness gracious…
I’ve responded to nearly everyone who has replied to me. neisseriaceae and JohnnyBorg made their posts around the time of my surgery, so I wanted to add my two cents since they're in the same age group as me.
So according to you, tooyoung has six alts: me, my three duplicate accounts, neisseriaceae, and thr pumpkin guy (who I actually think might be tooyoung as well).
Why do I need an intro post? There isn’t much to say. Days ago I was implanted and am now recovering. I plan on making a more detailed post once I’ve actually had a chance to bend and use it. Otherwise what is there to report? My original plan was to provide a detailed journal, answer any questions, then dip. I don’t usually post publicly on forums and tend to prefer one on one correspondence or just browsing.
You can ask user easymoney. I had been privately messaging him before I ever commented publicly. I mainly browse Reddit, you probably can find my similar comment there.
I only found this site because it was mentioned in passing on Reddit. I initially found the interface somewhat confusing. As I already told you, I created multiple accounts. The reason I even went through the trouble of creating an account was to view people’s older posts, which I later learned can be done through the advanced search.
What did I ever say that was anti IPP? If anything my comments are anti US health insurance. The IPP was and still is my first choice. I just don’t feel secure with the US healthcare system. Did you not see my older comment breaking down how US health coverage works? I don’t have disposable income to cover an early malfunction or infection if I happened to be uninsured, lost a job, or started a new job that didn’t cover it at the time. No one here or on Reddit has ever offered a real response or solution to this main concern Because of that I’m SETTLING with a malleable. I’m even on a payment plan to pay nearly ten grand for my malleable WITH insurance. Most of us Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
I think the IPP is a no brainer choice for those around fifty and older. Soon even younger as Coloplast continues improving the tubing and overall reliability.
I admit that I find tooyoung’s crusade entertaining since he spices things up. I'm also skeptical that IPPs usually last twenty plus years, particularly for younger males, but I disagree with him that the average lifespan is as low as 5-7 years. I think the average is closer to 10.
This will probably fall on deaf ears anyway. neisseriaceae provided pictures and links to his old account dating back to 2013, and you still think he’s an alt..
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LetoMan
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
Wooody wrote:I think what I and others don't like is your approach. You insult members here regularly and are frankly, annoying with your non-stop IPP bashing… You're not very likable, except to the MPP crowd.
Wooody, obviously those things are problematic. But the more serious issue here is that he makes none of the information here reliable. Guys come here looking for advice.
But when you have got a guy that sometimes claims to be a doctor, sometimes claims to have an implant and sometimes doesn’t, and is clearly operating multiple alt accounts, how can you know if any of the advice is anything other than trolling? You can’t, really. You can’t even really know if there *is* an mpp crowd. Certainly some of them are not the troll, Duke Cicero springs to mind, and I don’t think Last Hope or Ready2Go are either, but how can you know?
Unfortunately I don’t think anything can really be done about it. Anyone can create an anonymous account here, you can create them under multiple emails, etc. and it kinda has to be that way. So this guy can just pollute the discourse here forever.
You mentioned this is happening on Reddit, too. I briefly perused the Reddit ED boards about a year ago, and noticed that it was a cesspool full of disinformation trolls. Just absolute tons of them. I started suggesting to real sufferers that they go to FrankTalk instead. But apparently that has all followed us here.
It’s too bad. I get it… trolls are gonna troll. We just seem to have got one six months ago with massive amounts of time on his hands and a real taste for polluting the discourse.
50. Implanted 5/21/2024 at Kaiser SSF. AMS 700 CX 21cm, 3cm RTE. Penoscrotal. Venous leak my whole life. Pills helped, but hated the side effects; worked less as I aged. Skipped injections. Grateful to bionic brotherhood that helped me make this decision.
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JohnnyBorg
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
Hey everybody, apologies for not replying to the comments on my own thread, last two days have been absolutely nuts. A lot to catch up on!
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.
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JohnnyBorg
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
happycamper59 wrote:I can't help with the revision question, but I got an IPP a little more than a year ago. It is great! However, I did lose some length (nearly 1/2 inch I think), but it is harder to get a boned-pressed measurement now because the tubing is right there. So, it may be only about a 1/4 inch, which is what my doc suggested at the onset. Girth? Maybe a little loss. But man, does this thing work! I couldn't imagine a malleable, as my deflated penis is still more than it was flacid pre-op. I was a grower then; I'm a shower now!
Hey Happycamper, I’m glad you like your IPP! You said you think you lost 1/2 inch, out of curiosity do you know your pre-measurement?
I think the grower -> shower is actually a really nice bonus that I’d be looking forward to! Flaccid, my dick is VERY underwhelming. Reminds me of George Constanza in that one Seinfeld episode where the woman sees him naked after he had just gotten out of the pool. “DOESN’T SHE KNOW ABOUT SHRINKAGE?”
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.
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JohnnyBorg
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
LetoMan wrote:The prior six times you asked this question, I didn’t give you the magic answer that will resolve all your doubts because you had not yet asked enough times. But since you have now asked seven times, here is the magic answer:
You should get a…
(Sorry, doorbell… I’ll come back and answer this later if you ask again)
8th times the charm
In all seriousness though Leto I’ve read a few of your posts of your successful adventures with your IPP. If I end up going with the IPP I can only hope to have as successful recovery as yourself!
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.
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JohnnyBorg
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Re: Trying to Decide Between IPP and Malleable for my case… calling on opinions of the Bionic Brotherhood
Wooody wrote:I agree with much of what Elbowroom posted. As for tooyoung... same old rants about reliability, yet no comment about all the other points that Elbowroom made.
From research and my personal experience:
Most natural function - IPP
Most natural flaccid - IPP
Most probable size maintenance after - IPP
Most comfortable on a daily basis - IPP
Able to dial in hardness to your liking - IPP
Able to perform any sexual position - IPP
Reliability - MPP
Elbowroom made a great point... why not get an IPP and use it as long as you can. If/when it fails, face this decision again. If you get an infection, you get an MPP by default.
It seems much easier to go from IPP to MPP in the future than it is to go from MPP to IPP, particulary with regard to size.
Insurance here in the US is covering these procedures more and more often and I believe that will only improve. Also, I believe that improvements will be made to IPP weaknesses, tubing for example, in the future and they will become even more reliable.
For me, I ruled out a malleable immediately as I do NOT want a hard cock 24/7 despite what anyone says about it. No thanks. As well, I'm girthy so that made it an even easier choice for me.
Either way, IPP or MPP, at the end of the day you'll be able to have sex without dealing with fucking ED anymore and that's a huge win!
Thanks Wooody I appreciate it. I think you’re spot on with the fact that whether I do IPP or MPP, just being able to move past ED will be a big win. I do really like Elbow’s perspective on it too and Hakky is also his surgeon.
It’s tricky for me to gauge the risk / benefit on my choice since I feel like it’s not as straightforward as it might be for some other guys - especially for guys like Elbow and yourself who have girth that you want to preserve. For me - I really don’t have a girthy or long penis and because of that, it makes it tricky to decide on IPP or MPP since many of the negatives of the MPP might actually be minimized on account of my smaller size. I suspect comfort wouldn’t be as bad as it would be for a larger guy with an MPP, for example. I also anticipate losses might be minimized if say, a 13mm rod fits snuggly on account of my smaller girth. And structurally, I do think that smaller guys actually have better axial rigidity with the MPP than the larger guys do with an MPP, which Tooyoung has pointed out.
However, the IPP is pretty amazing and I do love the idea of having a true flaccid state + maybe the potential of even gaining a little size on account of the fact that my corpora might be a bit bigger than I think (Hakky thinks I’ve likely had the venous leak a long time, and that’s why there’s some potential of gains with VED pre surgery and cycling after).
Either way though, I think I’m just going to be glad I did SOMETHING good for myself about this issue that’s been following me my whole life.
Diagnosed with venous leak after having ED majority of my life. Grateful to have some answers, and considering both MPP and IPP as options.
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