How much size loss is normal

[Luckyjackson]

I just got implanted Tuesday and I’m kind of freaking out. Preop I was a major grower not shower a little over 5” or so errect. I used a VED a month leading up to surgery. I went to surgeon that’s known as an aggressive sizer. I just measured and it’s about 3.5” and fat. It’s like fun sized Pringles can. There’s no size gain on initial pump up? Strictly from cycling for aprox 1 year? I feel like I’ve made a huge, irreversible mistake

[Bent Ben]

Do a search of past posts about this, pretty common. Many say try not to think about it till 6-12 months PO. I had the same issue about 3.5 post op. I am now right at 5. Still have 1.25” to get to OEM. Much of the issue I believe is swelling of the pubic area, if I pull back he somewhat stiff pubic area I look about the same length as I was prior to surgery.

Just relax and try to not look at it. In a few weeks you will start to see improvement

[Luckyjackson]

Thanks so much for talking me off the ledge

[ThailandBound]

I was 5 1/2” preop. Just under 5” postop…and concerned. Cycled consistently and hard. Now, at 10 1/2 months postop i’m back to “OEM”.

[Witheringhog]

Clavell on his YouTube videos says you shouldn’t loose length when fitted correctly. I didnt lose any, i am consistently longer since my ED was cured with the implant. Now i didnt gain over oem, i am just maxed out oem every time.

[Txagq8]

Thanks so much for talking me off the ledge

You are probably far too young to remember the Crisco oil commercial starring Loretta Lynn.

It emphasized that when frying chicken, potatoes, etc that using Crisco would leave your foods crispy and delicious instead of greasy. After frying a skillet full of chicken they demonstrated that all of the oil came back to the bottle except one teaspoonful.

That’s the way it is with the implant. After you heal and cycle from 6 months to a year you are going to be the size you were when you started, except for maybe a tiny amount so small as to not be significant.

I started this journey at a bone pressed erect length of 6.85”. Three weeks after surgery I was about 5” and not thrilled. A year later it was between 6.5” and 6.75”. Coming up on 4 years, in the privacy of my own bathroom, I come up with 17.3 cm. That converts to 6.81”. All I can say is “that’s right, we bad.”

If you can tell me what the surgeon installed in you (implant, RTEs) I can give you an idea based on normal anatomy of what you can expect.

[Bent Ben]

Clavell on his YouTube videos says you shouldn’t loose length when fitted correctly. I didnt lose any, i am consistently longer since my ED was cured with the implant. Now i didnt gain over oem, i am just maxed out oem every time.

There are variables though, we dont know the approach that was used. PS seems to preserve size at least seemingly. Again as an IP approach was used on me due to PD the area around the incision is quite swollen. As this subsides which Ive been told by my Dr and other will take between 12 and 24 weeks, my size should be restored. My wife and I both feel my penis is the same length as PO but I got a fupa for a while lol. I didnt have much of a fat pad prior to surgery so I trust this is the case,
Clavell told me face to face that this was a con to IP.

[Luckyjackson]

Thanks so much for talking me off the ledge

You are probably far too young to remember the Crisco oil commercial starring Loretta Lynn.

It emphasized that when frying chicken, potatoes, etc that using Crisco would leave your foods crispy and delicious instead of greasy. After frying a skillet full of chicken they demonstrated that all of the oil came back to the bottle except one teaspoonful.

That’s the way it is with the implant. After you heal and cycle from 6 months to a year you are going to be the size you were when you started, except for maybe a tiny amount so small as to not be significant.

I started this journey at a bone pressed erect length of 6.85”. Three weeks after surgery I was about 5” and not thrilled. A year later it was between 6.5” and 6.75”. Coming up on 4 years, in the privacy of my own bathroom, I come up with 17.3 cm. That converts to 6.81”. All I can say is “that’s right, we bad.”

If you can tell me what the surgeon installed in you (implant, RTEs) I can give you an idea based on normal anatomy of what you can expect.

It’s a Titan implant but I’m not sure exactly which one

[newbie443]

There are different types of size loss. Before surgery ED will cause size loss. VED therapy will help slow this down and even restore some of the size loss. Loss can occur during surgery. You posted your doctor sizes aggressively so that is a big help in this but not a 100% as no doctor is perfect. Device can even make a difference as the LGX will expand more in length than the Titan. Your doctors aggressive sizing may help this out though. Activation wait time after surgery has shown a relationship between early activation and slightly less length. The differences were very small though. There are documents on all of this in the general discussion section of this forum in the documents worth reading thread.

Right now you still have swelling and are way early on the size you will be. Doctors inflate at different levels during surgery. No big deal but it could be your doctor inflated you lower than others. I had gains out past a year with aggressive cycling. I waited until I was released from my doctor and had followed all his instructions for cycling to do the aggressive cycling. ED cost me some size that I will not get back. Glans engorgement some more. And 3rd corporal body not engorgement a bit also. So not my youthful healthy size but just a bit less than an inch smaller. And it took a lot of work and time to get there.

[Lost Sheep]

I just got implanted Tuesday and I’m kind of freaking out. Preop I was a major grower not shower a little over 5” or so errect. I used a VED a month leading up to surgery. I went to surgeon that’s known as an aggressive sizer. I just measured and it’s about 3.5” and fat. It’s like fun sized Pringles can. There’s no size gain on initial pump up? Strictly from cycling for aprox 1 year? I feel like I’ve made a huge, irreversible mistake

No size loss is normal. But this advice comes with several caveats.

1) How much inflation did your surgeon leave you at? Very few surgeons leave a patient more than 80% inflated. Some at less than 30%. There are a number of medical reasons for this and you should ask your surgeon about it.

2) What is your baseline measurement? If you compare to your erections of your youth, you are comparing apples to oranges. The relevant comparison is what your erection was immediately before the surgery. (Provided you were able to get one. Years of ED can shrink a man's dimensions. The surgeon may not be able to stretch you out to recover that shrinkage.)

3) What is your datum point you are measuring from? The term "Bone Pressed Length" (BPL) is important. You press your measuring tool into the fleshy fat pad covering your pubic bone. If that pad is swollen (as is often the case after surgery) that swelling will subtract from your measured length.

4) About your baseline measurement. If you are depending on your memory....don't

5) Glans engorgement will add a bit of length and this soon after surgery you may not be getting aroused enough to have that "boost" in length.

Like you, I used a VED pre-op and observed that, inside the vacuum chamber, I was about 3/4" longer than my best natural (chemically enhanced) pre-op erection. The VED pulls your tissues more forward than natural. Don't expect an implant-supported erection to do that. Your natural erection didn't, either.

Back to my initial sentence. The implant acts exactly as your corpus cavernosum and tunica albuginea did to support your erection. Essentially the implant forces your tunica to stand up. Since the tunica is tough, fibrous tissue, it will not stretch elastically. If it did, natural erections would not be rigid. Trying to force the tunica longer is asking for more stress (and potential for tearing). If your surgeon measured the inside of your tunica correctly and had the confidence to implant the device that fit that measurement you should have no size loss (when fully healed and fully pumped to 100%). Be patient.