Pain from using Trimix

[Corvette]

I'm still on a test run and determining what level of Trimix I should be on. The Urologist gave me 10 syringes, 2 of each dose, 5 steps, after my first injection in her office. The office injection ached some and gave me a so so erection. I've used the two #1 syringes and gotten better results but still nothing spectacular. I'm now up to the first #3 and the ache is going on it's second day. It's not so much as a pain as a vise like grip and ache even into my testicles, is that what you folks call pain from the mixture in Trimix? The erection didn't last as long as the first, is the ache from not hitting the right spot? I'm not so sure I want to continue with the increasing doses or even test the second #3. They are all 5 units, but the Urologist said they were increasingly stronger. The idea was to experiment at home until I was satisfied and then call back and she'd issue a prescription for that number on the syringe. I panicked at the first #1 injection when the erection lasted for 2 hours, but it wasn't a complete erection, fun, but not what I'd like in the future. When you've had nothing for 4 or 5 years a little seemed like alot. Wish all the Doctors would do that with medicine, the idea is great, I wish they'd do it with pain killers especially, you could tune into what you needed.

What would be your suggestions, should I continue on the road with stronger mixtures ofthe Trimix test or get off it and go to Bimix. I don't even know if the Bimix would work? I only know what I've read on here.

Thanks for your help in advance.

[shipper222001]

I never get any pain just a little sting sometimes. Are you injecting in the right place. I found that injecting about an inch from the base of the shaft is best.
Sometimes I get a little ache after I climax. doctor said thats because i have a minor hernia or a strong orgasm.

So keep trying

[JimStars]

Corvette,

First of all, are you sure you are really dealing with Trimix here and not plain old Alprostadil (PGE-1) injections??

I've never heard of a doc giving out syringes of Trimix and saying "Try these", but they do give out syringes of Alprostadil. They can do this because there's no compounding involved and the doc just has vials packed in his fridge waiting to go.

I guess maybe if you could give us the ingredients (Papaverine, Phentolamine, PGE-1) amounts (mg, mg,mcg)/ml that might clear up what you are using. Or if you are not sure what you have, give your doc another call and ask for the strengths of each ingredient involved.

But if it turns out you really have bonafide Trimix I guess maybe you are sensitive to the PGE-1 in it. Then Bimix might be the way to go.

As shipper said, sometimes a little ache after climax, same for me, but nothing that lasts days. Plain old alprostadil (in MUSE) used to give pretty good aching balls for me at least early on. Maybe people get desensitized to it? But it is not something that you want to suffer with for months on end until that happens. Too much is at stake, right?

Let us know what you know about your Trimix ....

J

[Corvette]

Thanks for your replies and interest, It is Trimix, the Doc specifically told me that. The Tech that works with you was the one that gave me the 10 syringes with 5 different strengths or mixtures, they all have 5 units in them. I feel like a candy ass for having trouble with the first few, she acted like I might have to work my way to number 5 to get what I wanted.

If you inject in the wrong place could it cause more of the ache and less of the erection time than it should. I've got a gut and I have to use a mirror to inject so there's a chance that I've missed the "spot" the last couple of times? The ache has the feel of a morning after a long night of sex with many ejaculations, when I was about 18. You're right, my balls even ache.

I appreciate any of your comments, so please keep them coming. Hopefully I won't look so stupid, I love my female Urologist, she's young and a hard charger, I think she knows how important sex is, but sometimes things get a little embarrassing, even for me. I'd like to figure this out then just have to ask for one more do over.
Thanks

[beachcamper]

I sort of started the reverse.
My urologist started me on fifty units in his office. (.5 cc)
That resulted in an erection of about 3 1/2 hours.
He instructed me to work my way done.
Its been about a month now.
I'm at 25 units and getting an erection of about 1 1/2 hours.
These erections are very hard. Good enougth for both vaginal and anal.

To tell you the truth I'm thrilled.

[JimStars]

Corvette,

OK now i see what you mean by 5 x 2 syringes -- each pair with a different Trimix strength mixture -- but all the same fixed 5 unit amounts. Note that very few guys get good E with only 5u -- but I guess your Uro is being conservative and also looking for the best MIXTURE not just the right dose. You will just have to remember which gave the best E even if it is not 100% rock-like.

That's a pretty neat idea to zero in on what you might be comfortable with.

That said though, if these lower strength Trimix in the #1 and #2 and #3 range give you aches, I don't see how the others in the higher ranges (which I assume have more PGE-1 in them) are going to be any better ache-wise.

Unless she did the range a different way -- like keeping PGE-1 constant in all shots and increasing maybe the Phentolamine in each range. Phent is usually the one they increase since the PAP value is usually already 30mg while Phent starts out at just .5 mg or 1 mg .. and can go up from there.

So I guess you try em all and see.

J

[Corvette]

Folks,
Thanks for the replies.

Am I reading the information correctly, is the pain you feel more of a severe ache than a sharp pain and can it last like I've had for a couple of days?

If they leave out the PGE will the erections be as strong and last as long? Course I guess it doesn't matter if it hurts so bad you can't use it.

I may have mispoken about the amount and the units, they are 50 marked on a 100 mL/cc syringe. I'm used to seeing number for diabetes and they would refer to that as 5 units. You folks may not be as confused as I am with all the various injections.

Thanks again for the help.
Steve

[JimStars]

Corevette,

On the units and mls and cc's ... Welcome to the USA .. the only industrialized nation in the world that is NOT on the metric system. And so it goes with everyone messing up metrics wherever we go. Our educational system NOT at work ....

they are 50 marked on a 100 mL/cc syringe..... they would refer to that as 5 units

That's even more confusing.

If you have a standard syringe it is 1ml or 1cc. That is usually divided into 100 units, with only the 10s listed. If you have a .5ml syringe then you get the benefit of labels every 5u ...which makes it easier to read the small 1u amounts.

That said, if you are really using 50units ... that's a helluva lot to be starting with. Most guys would be To The Moon and back for hours with that much. My own clueless Uro gave me 30u the first time and that was good for almost 4 hours (I am using only 10u now for 1-2 hrs).

So, back to you! How much are you really using?

J

[trimix60]

I agree, starting out with 50 units is just asking for trouble, not sure why Doc's don't get more educated on this. My Uro did the same thing, but after reading on this board, I started out with 15 units and worked my way up, boy am I glad I did that.

I did end up needing about 50 units in the end but now I am back down to about 20 units with the same results after 6 months.

Good luck and keep us informed on what happens.

Cheers,

Curt

[Corvette]

Yep, I double checked and all the syringes are 100 units (ml/cc, typical diabetic syringe) and I'm doing 50 of them on every injection. In the Dr. Office they only gave me 40 units and it was pretty lame for about 45 minutes. But each of the ones I brought home were to have a different witches brew in each pair, progressively stronger.

It's odd that the first shot had a pretty good effect and lasted a long time, these last two haven't. That's why I kind of wonder if I hit the right spot. I've got enough of a gut I haven't seen Mr. Winky since we had dark hair. The first one my wife helped with, then got squimish.

What do you all suggest I do? I'm open to try anything, well maybe that's how I got in this position.

Thanks for all the help.
steve