Scarring Risk....The Truth

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Hunchback
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby Hunchback » Sun Jan 09, 2022 6:01 am

My experience is only with "monomix", EDEX/Caverject. I've been using 2 or 3 shots per week since 2007. So far, i have absolutely no signs of scarring at all.
From what i gather, it's mostly the added ingredients in the American bi/trimix formulas that cause the scarring, particularly papaverine. However, it's just what i've heard from doctors here and some feedback from the forum.
However, injections do stop working with time. I suppose that if you use "mix" versions of injections and up your dose often, the chances of getting scarring is also higher.
40 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.

frwmw1
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby frwmw1 » Sun Jan 09, 2022 7:12 am

lexmc1945 wrote:One other thing I've learned over the years, at least in my experience is to ignore the use by dates on fluid, I've used fluid that was months out of date with no problems, my current batch expired in April and still works fine. Obviously common sense is required with storage etc but I think all of the advice is more about protecting the supplier from law suits than concern for the patient.


I thought it is because the bacteriostatic water cannot hold off bacteria forever, and so after a certain date you risk injecting bacteria into your bloodstream, which will cause an infection.
45yo, venous leak. Pills increased tinnitus (very rare). Using bimix+atropine, 0.2 of:
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML

TwoStep
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby TwoStep » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:31 am

Hunchback wrote:My experience is only with "monomix", EDEX/Caverject. I've been using 2 or 3 shots per week since 2007. So far, i have absolutely no signs of scarring at all.
From what i gather, it's mostly the added ingredients in the American bi/trimix formulas that cause the scarring, particularly papaverine. However, it's just what i've heard from doctors here and some feedback from the forum.
However, injections do stop working with time. I suppose that if you use "mix" versions of injections and up your dose often, the chances of getting scarring is also higher.


Is it flaccid when you inject? Or do you stretch or fluff it up before injecting?

Hunchback
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby Hunchback » Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:52 am

TwoStep wrote:
Hunchback wrote:My experience is only with "monomix", EDEX/Caverject. I've been using 2 or 3 shots per week since 2007. So far, i have absolutely no signs of scarring at all.
From what i gather, it's mostly the added ingredients in the American bi/trimix formulas that cause the scarring, particularly papaverine. However, it's just what i've heard from doctors here and some feedback from the forum.
However, injections do stop working with time. I suppose that if you use "mix" versions of injections and up your dose often, the chances of getting scarring is also higher.


Is it flaccid when you inject? Or do you stretch or fluff it up before injecting?


After all these years, i'd say we've tried everything. We've injected when pretty "plump" by using oral medication, we've injected on a fluffed-up with cockrings too, mostly on a fully flaccid... and we always stretch it a bit, to allow better visibility of the veins(my dick skin seems to be way darker than the rest of my body... wish the size was similar to our dark-skinned brothers too ;)) and easier penetration for the needle.

To be honest, it seems that injecting on a fully flaccid is best, since it bleeds less. Sometimes, when i am a bit engorged, the injection site bleeds and then when i apply a cockring it sometimes turns into a big hematoma, which is really annoying.
40 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.

dxchase70
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby dxchase70 » Wed Jan 12, 2022 4:21 pm

Hunchback wrote:My experience is only with "monomix", EDEX/Caverject. I've been using 2 or 3 shots per week since 2007. So far, i have absolutely no signs of scarring at all.
From what i gather, it's mostly the added ingredients in the American bi/trimix formulas that cause the scarring, particularly papaverine. However, it's just what i've heard from doctors here and some feedback from the forum.
However, injections do stop working with time. I suppose that if you use "mix" versions of injections and up your dose often, the chances of getting scarring is also higher.


Just wondering, are there any long time Trimix injectors that have not had any scarring? Or is scarring a likely thing with Trimix?
51 yo in NYC. Viagra no longer reliable after 15 years of use. I have just started trying Trimix injections (July 2021). Papaverine: 18mg, Phentolamine: 0.6mg, Prostaglandin: 5.88ug

once a writer
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby once a writer » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:38 pm

Seven years. Nearly 1,000 injections. No scarring.
Eugene, Oregon, USA. Born 1941. Married 1968. ED since mid-1990s. Began trimix January 2014. Dosage gradually increased over time. Added cock ring in 2016. After dosage reached 30 units, switched to quad mix in May 2018. On blood pressure meds.

dxchase70
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby dxchase70 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:24 am

once a writer wrote:Seven years. Nearly 1,000 injections. No scarring.


That is great to hear. Thanks.
51 yo in NYC. Viagra no longer reliable after 15 years of use. I have just started trying Trimix injections (July 2021). Papaverine: 18mg, Phentolamine: 0.6mg, Prostaglandin: 5.88ug

Old Guy
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby Old Guy » Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:29 am

Used Trimix/Quadmix for 4-5 years. I had no scarring, at least nothing my surgeon mentioned. But it did leave me with what looks like a bruise on the right side. It's been 6+ years since my last injection but the discoloration is still there. I will admit to using my right side more due to coordination issues, plus the big vein on the left I always seemed to hit. Quit injecting after my dosage got so high I hurt the next day, plus it was failing more often than working.
Nov. 8, 2019
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Txagq8
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby Txagq8 » Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:25 am

dxchase70 wrote:
Hunchback wrote:My experience is only with "monomix", EDEX/Caverject. I've been using 2 or 3 shots per week since 2007. So far, i have absolutely no signs of scarring at all.
From what i gather, it's mostly the added ingredients in the American bi/trimix formulas that cause the scarring, particularly papaverine. However, it's just what i've heard from doctors here and some feedback from the forum.
However, injections do stop working with time. I suppose that if you use "mix" versions of injections and up your dose often, the chances of getting scarring is also higher.


Just wondering, are there any long time Trimix injectors that have not had any scarring? Or is scarring a likely thing with Trimix?


Me.

I went on bimix at age 31 in 1987.

I used an injectable all the way until I implanted 12/31/2019. Almost 33 years.

It was bimix from 1987-95. Then prostaglandin e1 by itself 96-2000. I was taking viagra with the injections starting in 1998. Then back to trimix in 2001, along with oral meds.

I tried the quad mix briefly around 2017 and it didn’t do anything the trimix didn’t already do.

Even at the end injections gave me a great erection, they just didn’t last. I’m guessing the VL got to the point that the medication got flushed out of the corpora before it could really take hold and keep everything secure.

The second question I asked the urological surgeon after I woke up (the first was how much implant were you able to install) was how bad of a scar tissue mess did you run into after that many years of injecting.

His answer was “none to speak of.” He told me that I had no real scarring that he could tell and if any was present, it was so minor as not to have had any effect on implanting me.

No two guys are alike. I’ve had two rotator cuffs repaired, multiple hernias, a knee redone. You really cannot find the scars where they cut me open. Not sure that means anything.

But to answer your question. Yes, there are long term injection users who never experience any scarring trouble.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.

crazyjoe
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Re: Scarring Risk....The Truth

Postby crazyjoe » Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:50 pm

well after just 8 months of injecting I've got something -- urologist called it plaque. He said he thought he could get around it with an implant (don't some surgeons just cut through it?)

Its a lump of something -- I get confused with the differences between scarring, fibrosis and plaque... Can someone help me out?
thanks
75, used pills, injections -- all lost effectiveness. Titan implanted by Eid in Feb '22.


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