Shape metal alloy implant

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Gt1956
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:28 pm

My opinion. Most of us will be dead before this ever gets approved & is available for use.
So I'm sitting here thinking of the last ED treatment to hit the marketplace. Best that I can tell its a toss up between pills & shots. A quick internet search gives us a timeline for Viagra.
1989 it was discovered.
1998 it was finally approved.
2017 it became available as a generic.
Reality slaps us in the face. 9 years between discovery & approval. My memory is that the approval process was fast tracked due to demand. Btw, no need to train surgeons on how to install an implant.
28 years after discovery. The highly over priced but very popular oral drug became a generic. This helps make it available to more men. Especially those whose insurance didn't cover it.
So here we are. 33 years later & looking at new research. If history is any indication of future ED treatment progress before it is common & within the reach of the broad group of sufferers. We're gonna wait a long time.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

densal07
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby densal07 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:46 pm

I wouldn't be so pesimistic. Not only this article stated that it is around 5 to 10 years from commercialization, and it was published in 2017. And the other article I saw was published in 2016, stating the same timeframe.
23yo gay male. Suspected venous leak. Currently on Viagra / Cialis, both certainly help but not confident enough to be a top. Let's see what the future brings - I'm here to face it.

TwoStep
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby TwoStep » Mon Feb 21, 2022 5:03 pm

Since the volume doesn’t change it appears to have no advantages over a malleable implant, not even in theory. And I’m not aware of anyone actually trying to put it into practice

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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Fourtytwo00 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:12 pm

My two cents. If you're already implanted you' shouldn't hope for revolutionary treatments.
Actually every less invasive ED treatment discovery is going to compete with implants. Less demand, less R&D funds. It's economics 101. The more implants will became affordable to people living in high and medium income countries, the better.

Gt1956
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Feb 21, 2022 6:27 pm

densal07 wrote:I wouldn't be so pesimistic. Not only this article stated that it is around 5 to 10 years from commercialization, and it was published in 2017. And the other article I saw was published in 2016, stating the same timeframe.

Not pessimistic, rather I'm very realistic. I'll take realistic over optimistic any day. Even your own example doesn't hold up. In the year time between stories, the timeline didn't change. Thus, it already slipped by 1 year. If there isn't a more recent update. It would be logical to believe that its still 10 years out even now.
Its great to believe in miracles. The trouble is they just don't happen very often.
So lets pretend that it is only 5 years out. You can bet that insurance will not cover it from the first day. Approved sugeons will be few. If you're in a country with a natioal health service? They'll be slow to implement them into their system. They might even make it difficult to get or ration how many they do a year.
How old will you be by then? Sorry, but I see it as reality. Trust me, I'd love to be wrong but until better info is found. Its as valid as UFO's in my backyard.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

impotentredditor
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby impotentredditor » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:31 pm

I don't think this implant will happen for two reasons

1. It's confirmed that an inflatable electronic implant is in development. I've seen multiple doctors confirm this on Twitter. If you already have an inflatable implant that can be remote controlled, and not manually pumped, then the need for this implant goes away

2. There are a lot of issues with this implant specifically. Issues like how will you do early cycling, how will size be determined, how long will the erection last, how do you make the magnetic wand be unobtrusive.

If I'm not wrong, Boston Scientific was funding the research into this as well as the inflatable electronic implant. It seems they've decided to go the inflatable electronic implant route. Although even the inflatable eImplant is atleast half a decade or so from being introduced in the first place.
26 year old with lifelong venous leak. Hoping to get an implant soon.

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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51 pm

TwoStep wrote:Since the volume doesn’t change it appears to have no advantages over a malleable implant, not even in theory. And I’m not aware of anyone actually trying to put it into practice

I am not sure about the volume, but there is a significant advantage over a malleable/semi-rigid. The malleable is stiff, whatever shape you bend it in. The memory metal should (by all reports I have seen) will be soft and flexible until activeated and then straighten and stiffen. Significant improvement over a malleable.
Lost Sheep
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densal07
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby densal07 » Tue Feb 22, 2022 3:47 am

impotentredditor wrote:I don't think this implant will happen for two reasons

1. It's confirmed that an inflatable electronic implant is in development. I've seen multiple doctors confirm this on Twitter. If you already have an inflatable implant that can be remote controlled, and not manually pumped, then the need for this implant goes away

2. There are a lot of issues with this implant specifically. Issues like how will you do early cycling, how will size be determined, how long will the erection last, how do you make the magnetic wand be unobtrusive.

If I'm not wrong, Boston Scientific was funding the research into this as well as the inflatable electronic implant. It seems they've decided to go the inflatable electronic implant route. Although even the inflatable eImplant is atleast half a decade or so from being introduced in the first place.


Can you share some links about these electronic inflatable implants? If they were indeed controlled by a remote device, that could be a major breakthrough, since elimination of pump and reservoir would decrease a total number of parts it contains and so decreased the mechanical failure rate.
23yo gay male. Suspected venous leak. Currently on Viagra / Cialis, both certainly help but not confident enough to be a top. Let's see what the future brings - I'm here to face it.

Lost Sheep
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Lost Sheep » Wed Feb 23, 2022 1:44 am

densal07 wrote:Can you share some links about these electronic inflatable implants? If they were indeed controlled by a remote device, that could be a major breakthrough, since elimination of pump and reservoir would decrease a total number of parts it contains and so decreased the mechanical failure rate.

The design does include a pump and reservoir. The reservoir would likely be in the usual place, somewhere in the patient's abdomen. The pump would likely not be in the scrotum since the patient would not be required to pump an inflation bulb nor operate a valve. I speculate the pump would be near the reservoir. Then there would have to be a battery and a charging device near the skin so transcutaneous charging of the battery could be done. Also, a receiver, so the remote control device could signal the pump/battery to inflate or deflate.

So, there would actually be more parts than the typical (current) IPP. But the tubing would likely be shorter and most of the extra parts would be hidden inside the patient and not obvious (or maybe not even detectable) by the casual observer.
Lost Sheep
AMS LGX 18+3 Nov 6, 2017
Prostate Cancer 2023
READ OLD THREADS-ask better questions -better understand answers
Be part of your medical team
Document pre-op size-photos and written records
Pre-op VED therapy helps. Post-op is another matter

Gt1956
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Re: Shape metal alloy implant

Postby Gt1956 » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:47 am

densal07 wrote:
impotentredditor wrote:I don't think this implant will happen for two reasons
1. It's confirmed that an inflatable electronic implant is in development. I've seen multiple doctors confirm this on Twitter. If you already have an inflatable implant that can be remote controlled, and not manually pumped, then the need for this implant goes away
2. There are a lot of issues with this implant specifically. Issues like how will you do early cycling, how will size be determined, how long will the erection last, how do you make the magnetic wand be unobtrusive.
If I'm not wrong, Boston Scientific was funding the research into this as well as the inflatable electronic implant. It seems they've decided to go the inflatable electronic implant route. Although even the inflatable eImplant is atleast half a decade or so from being introduced in the first place.

Can you share some links about these electronic inflatable implants? If they were indeed controlled by a remote device, that could be a major breakthrough, since elimination of pump and reservoir would decrease a total number of parts it contains and so decreased the mechanical failure rate.

LS descibes it fairly well. All the samw parts. Only difference is how the fluid is pressurized in the cylinders. Likely good for men that have dexterity or strength issues with their fingers.
I don't see the advatage for most men. Now you'd have electronics that could fail. Implant would surely cost more. The battery would eventually wear out. I'm not seeing an improvement for most men.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months


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