Well, can't speak in terms of an actual RESEARCH, but my experience with injections is - absolutely zero change in the penis shape, size, colour or anything else.
I've been injecting since 2007 till today.
*shrug*
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40 years old, married. ED all my life because of spinal cord injury caused by a tumor in early infant age. Using standard EDEX20 since 2007. Increasingly bad results with EDEX in the last few years, but had very good results for at least 10 years.
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misterecz wrote:frwmw1 wrote:Injections can increase your girth slightly but I believe it's through fibrosis.
This girth created turns the penis into an oval shape. I suspect this would then decrease erectile function, so could never be a recommended procedure, and a good reason why injection therapy is second line defence, as Viagra if anything, does the opposite - it improves erectile function and slows down ED progress.
Years ago, I was reading of a guy who had sickle cell disease, and it caused priapism, and it was untreated, and his penis girth grew so large he couldn't have sex, as his penis became very oval shaped, so surgeons operated on him to remove the fibrotic scaring and it was a success.
However someone posted here the other day that injections are helping their penis improve post-peyronies, and I am finding it helping healing of a vein injury I got from Mondors disease.
So it can have some therapeutic benefits.
Hmm, interesting theory but I don't think that's the case in my experience. With sickle cell the fibrosis comes from the prolonged erections which causes fibrosis from the tissue not getting oxygenated blood. I don't think most people using PGE1 are getting the type of long running erections that sickle cell afflicted men have.
But interesting nonetheless. There might be some truth to this statement.
I think a lot of the girth gains of PGE1 is just from the multi-hour expansion of the tunica by hyper expanding smooth muscle cells. Additionally in the patent a potentiator is use such as DMSO+PABA and even DHT gel.
I hope that's the case, for me I noticed extra girth side effect has stabilised and stopped increasing, so I'm hoping that's the end of that possibility.
45yo, venous leak. Pills increased tinnitus (very rare). Using bimix+atropine, 0.2 of:
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
Re: DO YOU WANT A LARGER PENIS? USE INJECTIONS!!!!
I have definitely increased in girth and probably a little in length. As I have continuously stated on this forum, guys who inject should use a VED pump on days that you're NOT injecting, and 2 days after you inject. Why? VED therapy has multiple therapeutic value for your penis. It increases the blood supply to the penis thus contributing to preventing scarring of the corpora cavernosa..THe increased and repeated blood supply to the corpora cavernosa by VED therapy also more or less increases it's elasticity and promotes healing. It's like exercising a muscle and you are engorging the penis with oxygen enriched blood. I started doing VED therapy 10 years ago when I developed some nodules in my penis after injecting for a year.At the recommendation of a peyronie's specialist who had said if scarring is caught early it can be reversed with medications and VED therapy. I have also repeatedly advised members here to go to the peyronie's forum, which is a web site similar to Frank Talk where you can ask questions, obtain valuable information, share experiences, etc. I think if any man wants to inject long term and avoid surgery for an implant it's imperative that you take your own penile health into your own hands..( no pun and pun intended)..Best to all of you!!
70 year old legally separated retired health-care professional. ED began in my early 50's. Viagra worked great for about 5 years, then had cardiac by-pass surgery and eventually moved to injections about 10 years ago.
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qcswral wrote:I have definitely increased in girth and probably a little in length. As I have continuously stated on this forum, guys who inject should use a VED pump on days that you're NOT injecting, and 2 days after you inject. Why? VED therapy has multiple therapeutic value for your penis. It increases the blood supply to the penis thus contributing to preventing scarring of the corpora cavernosa..THe increased and repeated blood supply to the corpora cavernosa by VED therapy also more or less increases it's elasticity and promotes healing. It's like exercising a muscle and you are engorging the penis with oxygen enriched blood. I started doing VED therapy 10 years ago when I developed some nodules in my penis after injecting for a year.At the recommendation of a peyronie's specialist who had said if scarring is caught early it can be reversed with medications and VED therapy. I have also repeatedly advised members here to go to the peyronie's forum, which is a web site similar to Frank Talk where you can ask questions, obtain valuable information, share experiences, etc. I think if any man wants to inject long term and avoid surgery for an implant it's imperative that you take your own penile health into your own hands..( no pun and pun intended)..Best to all of you!!
That's very good advice and thank you. How long have you been injection and how many times a week..If you don't mind me asking?
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My concern with VED is that it could further worsen venous leaking, but I would suppose this could be managed via proper instructions, e.g. don't over pump?
45yo, venous leak. Pills increased tinnitus (very rare). Using bimix+atropine, 0.2 of:
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
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frwmw1 wrote:Injections can increase your girth slightly but I believe it's through fibrosis.
This girth created turns the penis into an oval shape. .
Its just a vasodilator, causing blood to be drawn into the penis, the same penis you always had. No different than pills. Cant see how it would alter the shape.
"More girth" is only because your ED dick was not as filled as when injected. If it was, ie pills, it would be same shape and size
56, ED 10-15 years. Pills, Bi, Tri then Quad Mix Injections- all slowly less effective. IPP July 2022 (Penscrotal, Titan, 22 + 1) @6mo back to OEM--7.2"L x 5.5"w
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ShouldIwait wrote:frwmw1 wrote:Injections can increase your girth slightly but I believe it's through fibrosis.
This girth created turns the penis into an oval shape. .
Its just a vasodilator, causing blood to be drawn into the penis, the same penis you always had. No different than pills. Cant see how it would alter the shape.
"More girth" is only because your ED dick was not as filled as when injected. If it was, ie pills, it would be same shape and size
Not sure, I started gaining oval shaped girth earlier on but it has stabilised I think.
Whereas Viagra wasn't oval shaped, but it used to fill the spongiosum, whereas injections don't.
45yo, venous leak. Pills increased tinnitus (very rare). Using bimix+atropine, 0.2 of:
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
Atropine Sulfate: 52MCG/ML, Phentolamine MES: 0.9MG/ML, Papaverine HCL: 26MG/ML
Re: DO YOU WANT A LARGER PENIS? USE INJECTIONS!!!!
ShouldIwait wrote:frwmw1 wrote:Injections can increase your girth slightly but I believe it's through fibrosis.
This girth created turns the penis into an oval shape. .
Its just a vasodilator, causing blood to be drawn into the penis, the same penis you always had. No different than pills. Cant see how it would alter the shape.
"More girth" is only because your ED dick was not as filled as when injected. If it was, ie pills, it would be same shape and size
It's not just a vasodilator, it's also a smooth muscle relaxer and also PGE1 is a collagen inhibitor. My theory is that it partially delinks the collagen in the tunica, but more so it hyper expands the smooth muscle to increase penile girth.
Peyronie's From Rough Sex in 2020.
Developed Erectile Dysfunction, Dorsal, & Lateral Curvature.
Treated With Traction, VED, DMSO, & PGE1.
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Developed Erectile Dysfunction, Dorsal, & Lateral Curvature.
Treated With Traction, VED, DMSO, & PGE1.
YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@mrecz
Re: DO YOU WANT A LARGER PENIS? USE INJECTIONS!!!!
Pumpkinman wrote:qcswral wrote:I have definitely increased in girth and probably a little in length. As I have continuously stated on this forum, guys who inject should use a VED pump on days that you're NOT injecting, and 2 days after you inject. Why? VED therapy has multiple therapeutic value for your penis. It increases the blood supply to the penis thus contributing to preventing scarring of the corpora cavernosa..THe increased and repeated blood supply to the corpora cavernosa by VED therapy also more or less increases it's elasticity and promotes healing. It's like exercising a muscle and you are engorging the penis with oxygen enriched blood. I started doing VED therapy 10 years ago when I developed some nodules in my penis after injecting for a year.At the recommendation of a peyronie's specialist who had said if scarring is caught early it can be reversed with medications and VED therapy. I have also repeatedly advised members here to go to the peyronie's forum, which is a web site similar to Frank Talk where you can ask questions, obtain valuable information, share experiences, etc. I think if any man wants to inject long term and avoid surgery for an implant it's imperative that you take your own penile health into your own hands..( no pun and pun intended)..Best to all of you!!
That's very good advice and thank you. How long have you been injection and how many times a week..If you don't mind me asking?
I have been injecting for 10 years. Mostly 1-2 times a week..in the beginning years I was injecting more often. As far as the VED therapy I mention above, there is a whole protocol on how and what do. First off never pump after you have injected or that same. day. also, wait a day before you do begin pumping to allow your penis to heal from the injecting. The protocol as it was outlined to me is you pump just enough where you feel slight discomfort...hold it for 10 seconds, then release the air and wait another 10 seconds...and then repeat. You do this procedure everyday for 10 minutes...going through the cycle. If you feel any pain, you're pumping too much and to hard. And you should STOP! I'm not sure about it making venous leak worse..which I have as well BTW but haven't noticed it getting worse since I've been doing VED therapy. I no longer do it everyday but a few times a week. When I had the nodules in my penis, I was doing that protocol outlined above for a year. The nodules gradually went away, and my Doc told me I could continue to pump as a maintenance exercise..Oh and I used a medical grade VED pump not a cheap one you can get from a sex store. and use plant of lube while pumping..The medical grade VED pumps come with explicit instructions. Whatever you decide Good Luck to you!
70 year old legally separated retired health-care professional. ED began in my early 50's. Viagra worked great for about 5 years, then had cardiac by-pass surgery and eventually moved to injections about 10 years ago.
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