New to the pump.

[RJ_in_Pa]

Thanks guys for the quick and clear response. Greatly appreciated!

[Spontaneous1]

You do need a gauge, you can't pump by feel, and you don't pump to discomfort, and beyond! I don't know about anyone else but the last thing I want is discomfort in my family jewels

The choice is yours R.J., information is power! I've pointed you to the information, follow it or not, it's not my dick!

[bldoink]

If you're getting discomfort in the family jewels you're doing something wrong.

Although there may be one I'm not aware of, I don't know of any medical grade Vacuum Erection Devices that have a gauge. There must be a reason for that. If you are using it for normal therapy you're fine without a gauge if you follow guidelines and use common sense.

If you're trying to gain a larger dick than what you were naturally given, then you can follow advice for that purpose. And there are sites specifically for that purpose. TheBioHacker (formally PEgym) comes to mind.

However, please stay away from "jelqing". We've had too many guys on this forum that really screwed up their dicks with jelqing.

[Spontaneous1]

Bldoink, you are the one who stated "I think the rule is you can pump until you feel discomfort and then just a little more", that thinking is wrong! I'm not stating these guidelines for "if you're trying to gain a larger dick than what you were naturally given, then you can follow advice for that purpose.", I'm stating facts from people who have been doing this for years, not "I think the rule is". The truth is you can overpump without feeling discomfort, and that in turn can cause edema, donuts, petachia, and even blisters. Without a gauge, and limits to your time under vacuum pressure, you won't know it until it happens.

"If you are using it for normal therapy you're fine without a gauge if you follow guidelines and use common sense." What exactly is "normal therapy", and those "guidelines"?

I thought we were all here wanting what's best for our penis, sex life, and ED issues? I know for a fact that following the guidelines, from people with experience, who made mistakes early on, and learned from them, that I have regained nocturnal erections, and improved erection quality.

[AnotherOldMan]

I don't know of any medical grade Vacuum Erection Devices that have a gauge.

I haven't found a medical grade, FDA certified VED that has one!
A cheap sex toy pump, yes. I have used a few and with each and every one I wondered, "How accurate is this gauge? Are they even consistent between individual pumps of the same model and manufacturer? "

I'm not stating these guidelines for "if you're trying to gain a larger dick than what you were naturally given, then you can follow advice for that purpose."

Yet you reference a site that proudly proclaims: "Thunder's Place
The big penis and mens' sexual health source, increasing penis size around the world."

[Spontaneous1]

https://thunders.place/penis-pumps/
I'm only referencing the part of the site that deals with pumps, and posts that deal with pumping safely. I don't prescribe to any of the other things they reference, especially jelging. If you've read any of my other posts you will see that I'm adamantly against that 1000%! I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here, but I know from experience it is possible to over pump without even knowing it.

Here are other articles:
https://www.victorymenshealth.com/penis ... %20painful.

From WebMD: How to Try a Penis Pump Safely
Penis pumps sold in sex toy stores aren’t regulated. They may lead to injury if used incorrectly. A penis pump prescribed by a doctor is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved medical device. However, even these can cause injury if you don’t use them properly. If you try one, always pay attention to how your penis feels. If something hurts or doesn't feel quite right, stop using it.
According to sex educators, using a pump too often can break the blood vessels in your penis and permanently affect the tissue. They suggest using a product that has a pressure gauge so you can check the pressure and keep it at a safe level.

[bldoink]

you can't pump by feel, and you don't pump to discomfort, and beyond!

I do seem recall instructions saying to pump to discomfort (not pain) and just one more pump. However I can't find documentation to support that statement. You can pump by feel and that's all I've ever done but I edited my previous post to reflect what can be documented "If you have any discomfort, stop pumping and press the vacuum release button. Then begin pumping again". I also updated the "Documents Worth Reading" thread a tad.

[bldoink]

I'm not stating these guidelines for "if you're trying to gain a larger dick than what you were naturally given, then you can follow advice for that purpose."

Yet you reference a site that proudly proclaims: "Thunder's Place
The big penis and mens' sexual health source, increasing penis size around the world."

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I certainly wasn't recommending that site. I've never used it and only heard it mentioned in threads on here. I had a little trouble finding their site as they changed names. My point was that there is what I'll call normal therapy based on medical "need" and exercises designed to get a bigger dick.

[bldoink]

From WebMD: How to Try a Penis Pump Safely
Penis pumps sold in sex toy stores aren’t regulated. They may lead to injury if used incorrectly. A penis pump prescribed by a doctor is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved medical device. However, even these can cause injury if you don’t use them properly. If you try one, always pay attention to how your penis feels. If something hurts or doesn't feel quite right, stop using it.

I agree completely with this.

According to sex educators, using a pump too often can break the blood vessels in your penis and permanently affect the tissue. They suggest using a product that has a pressure gauge so you can check the pressure and keep it at a safe level.

What sex educators?

There is no doubt in my mind that you can damage your penis with over zealous VED or penis pump use. I've been using my Osbon Erecaid (no gauge) for 12 years without damage. And yeah I've been pumping to slight discomfort+, but never maintaining the discomfort+ for any time. But as I can't document that I'm certainly not recommending that. I suggest following the documented instructions. From Timm Medical/Osbon: "If you have any discomfort, stop pumping and press the vacuum release button. Then begin pumping again"

I see nothing wrong with a gauge. However, how your dick feels should supersede what the gauge says. Or better yet stop when either one, sensation or gauge, says to back off.

[Spontaneous1]

Agree, discomfort is bad. Everyone is different in what it takes to feel that discomfort, and sometimes that's beyond the safe pressures.

From what I've read you can achieve various levels of ED relief, depending on what the root cause is to start with, by using pressures between 3-5" hg.

In the beginning I did not have a gauge either and found I could tolerate a pretty good amount of pressure before I would begin to feel the slightest discomfort. Apparently this has to do with each individuals tissue thickness, or something along that line. It basically means what vacuum pressure I can tolerate might be a lot more than what you can, or vice versa. Once I acquired a gauge, and pumped up to the level I felt before the gauge, I saw that I was in the 10+ hg. range, way to high. I have read that doing this a few times isn't necessarily bad, but repeatedly over time can cause damage to the tissues and vessels. Again, this is what I've read!

I do know that since I backed off the pressure to no more than 3-5 hg that my erection quality is better. I typically do 5 hg from the 0-5 minutes, 4 hg from 5-10 minutes, and 5 hg from 10- 20 minutes (sometimes 25). I also do kegals on and off throughout the routine. I was pumping using th 5-5-3 routine ( 5 minutes pumped, 5 minutes out, 3 times, for 4 months prior to this so I had been doing it a while before trying this incremental routine. I don't pump up to 3 hg all at once when I first start, I pump up some, wait 10 seconds, pump up some more, wait 10 seconds, until I get to the 3 hg mark, then maintain it there until the next hg increase. I do the same thing at the end also, I don't just release the pressure all at once, I'll release it slowly until there's none left, it usually takes about a minute. The idea is to simulate getting an erection, and then the erection going down.

I hope this explains more about what I've been trying to say. I know texting can be read various ways, and it's not my intent to step on anyone's toes, just want to possibly help someone else out with their ED issues.