Well I just did my first evaluation run with Trimix and I must say it was a success..
Thanks to all the info given here, which I studied a lot. I doubt I would have ever done this without all the information shared here.
The process from Olympia was easy peasy. Got the NB243 mix , 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1. Was advised to start at 5 units, then move up in 5 unit increments. I was told this was not a beginner mix and I am glad Doc told me that because it made me even more careful with my planned titration process.
I always thought sticking a needle in my dick wasn’t that big a deal, because I’d given injections into my dogs tons of times, plus I tried (unsuccessfully) the PT141 thing so I knew I could stab myself too without too much of a problem.
But when I opened the package from Olympia and saw those ½” inch needles, fuuuuuck man, it gave me pause. LOL. So I read more here and found that many have success with 5/16 which I felt more comfortable to start with.
Got some 5/16" and made sure I had several hours to myself to inject and deal with the repercussions, if any. Had my Sudafed and antidote. A couple extra hours to get to the gym for some heavy sessions on the exercise bike just in case. (Wondering how I was going to hide the monster in my pants at the gym if it came to that). Was very nervous more about an accidental ER visit than anything. So since the doc advised 5 units to start, I decided to go with 2 units to be ridiculously careful.
Needle went in like butter, no pain, no resistance, nothing. I didn’t expect any results, being such a small amount. But lo and behold, 10 minutes later I had a pretty raging boner that I could hang a wet towel on. I mean standing at attention, like the old days. A lot of springiness. Not like my natural old boners tho, it was all shaft, and the glans wasn’t engorged. Kinda weird but whatever, good enough for a lot of fun lol. After about 30 min, I decided I had enough and put ice on it. No response, just an ice cold boner. At that point was when I wished I had a fair maiden to help. I don’t like jacking off but decided to jack it and it started settling down after that.
So actually, I think I stumbled onto what almost works in my first attempt. An hour is about right for me, I don’t need marathon sessions at my age.
So if I stay with 2 units, I have enough for 250 doses lol.
I may add another unit on my next test and I hope that gets me to ~ 1 hr to 90 min. And see if it includes the glans in the action.
It was nice to learn the 5/16 may work for me.
A couple questions: I did have a red welt appearance at the injection site that was noticeable if a chick really wanted to take a look. Is this normal, and how do you explain that? Also does trimix only work on the shaft and not the glans? That would be a bummer as I have a large head that women comment positively on .
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64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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Hardonrescue wrote:Well I just did my first evaluation run with Trimix and I must say it was a success...
Got some 5/16" and made sure I had several hours to myself to inject and deal with the repercussions, if any... I decided to go with 2 units to be ridiculously careful...
So actually, I think I stumbled onto what almost works in my first attempt. An hour is about right for me, I don’t need marathon sessions at my age.
So if I stay with 2 units, I have enough for 250 doses lol.
It was nice to learn the 5/16 may work for me.
A couple questions: I did have a red welt appearance at the injection site ... Is this normal, and how do you explain that? Also does trimix only work on the shaft and not the glans? That would be a bummer as I have a large head that women comment positively on .
Congratulations on your success!
Your caution was wise.
A solo practice session or two or a few is also wise.
Two units is a pretty small dose to consistantly meter correctly. You might consider a weaker mix.
Needle length is a personal thing. Each guy must discover which is best for him.
No a red welt isn't normal. You may have injected a tiny bit into the skin.
The mix only works on the shaft. If your head normally gets engorged then it still should when combined with stimulation. The shaft where the mix goes doesn't share blood with the head, so no effect on the head when injected into the shaft, sorry.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
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Pretty much anything bldoink posts is spot on....
Here's my take having experienced the same as you (non-inflated glans) when taking a lower dose trimix (30/1/10) Trimix T-105.
I vaguely recall your situation about keeping injections on the DL from your wife....
With only injecting 2 units....again, I agree with bldoink....your mix may be a bit too strong. I'd HIGHLY caution against going up any at this point....and the reason why is your non-inflated glans and your description of your erection quality after this injection. What I believe is happening physiologically in this instance is that the corpus cavernosum are becoming so engorged and clamping down so hard that your glans isn't getting as much blood flow. This used to happen to me (prior to ever having ED) somewhat regularly during longer sex sessions where I'd find it hard to reach climax....the shaft would be so hard it was almost like you wouldn't have been able to push a finger nail into the flesh and the erection was EXTREMELY rigid....forcing it to bend downward was a pain/pleasure scenario, but the head itself wasn't engorged.
A much lower dose Trimix T-105 (30/1/10) gave me this same sort of erection with the not-fully-engorged-head and extremely rigid erection....AND....I ended up in the ER having to have it drained after 5 hours of being in that state. From your description and my experience with my natural erections as well as a Trimix induced one, I think you're dangerously close to that threshold. I'd caution you to be EXTREMELY careful if you decide to use more.
Super glad it's worked well for you so far though.....IMO, it's fantastic that you landed on a dose that works for you right off the bat.
Here's my take having experienced the same as you (non-inflated glans) when taking a lower dose trimix (30/1/10) Trimix T-105.
I vaguely recall your situation about keeping injections on the DL from your wife....
With only injecting 2 units....again, I agree with bldoink....your mix may be a bit too strong. I'd HIGHLY caution against going up any at this point....and the reason why is your non-inflated glans and your description of your erection quality after this injection. What I believe is happening physiologically in this instance is that the corpus cavernosum are becoming so engorged and clamping down so hard that your glans isn't getting as much blood flow. This used to happen to me (prior to ever having ED) somewhat regularly during longer sex sessions where I'd find it hard to reach climax....the shaft would be so hard it was almost like you wouldn't have been able to push a finger nail into the flesh and the erection was EXTREMELY rigid....forcing it to bend downward was a pain/pleasure scenario, but the head itself wasn't engorged.
A much lower dose Trimix T-105 (30/1/10) gave me this same sort of erection with the not-fully-engorged-head and extremely rigid erection....AND....I ended up in the ER having to have it drained after 5 hours of being in that state. From your description and my experience with my natural erections as well as a Trimix induced one, I think you're dangerously close to that threshold. I'd caution you to be EXTREMELY careful if you decide to use more.
Super glad it's worked well for you so far though.....IMO, it's fantastic that you landed on a dose that works for you right off the bat.
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bldoink wrote:
Congratulations on your success!
Your caution was wise.
A solo practice session or two or a few is also wise.
Two units is a pretty small dose to consistantly meter correctly. You might consider a weaker mix.
Needle length is a personal thing. Each guy must discover which is best for him.
No a red welt isn't normal. You may have injected a tiny bit into the skin.
The mix only works on the shaft. If your head normally gets engorged then it still should when combined with stimulation. The shaft where the mix goes doesn't share blood with the head, so no effect on the head when injected into the shaft, sorry.
Thank you!
Yes I plan on another solo voyage or two, but haven't decided to just stay at 2 or increase it slightly.
And I agree that I likely need a weaker mix. Not sure I'll send this one back though, I may just work with it carefully. And buy lower volume syringes for accuracy.
The only concern is the red mark on my dick though, at the injection site. Not sure why. It was obvious the day of, enough for a partner to notice. So something to be self conscious about. If it was marital sex no big deal, but that's not my situation. It's 2 days later and while the red mark is fading, it's still there. Looks like a really faint mosquito bite now. Hoping it was beginner's bad technique and I can improve on that.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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Sean762 wrote:Pretty much anything bldoink posts is spot on....
Here's my take having experienced the same as you (non-inflated glans) when taking a lower dose trimix (30/1/10) Trimix T-105.
I vaguely recall your situation about keeping injections on the DL from your wife....
With only injecting 2 units....again, I agree with bldoink....your mix may be a bit too strong. I'd HIGHLY caution against going up any at this point....and the reason why is your non-inflated glans and your description of your erection quality after this injection. What I believe is happening physiologically in this instance is that the corpus cavernosum are becoming so engorged and clamping down so hard that your glans isn't getting as much blood flow. This used to happen to me (prior to ever having ED) somewhat regularly during longer sex sessions where I'd find it hard to reach climax....the shaft would be so hard it was almost like you wouldn't have been able to push a finger nail into the flesh and the erection was EXTREMELY rigid....forcing it to bend downward was a pain/pleasure scenario, but the head itself wasn't engorged.
A much lower dose Trimix T-105 (30/1/10) gave me this same sort of erection with the not-fully-engorged-head and extremely rigid erection....AND....I ended up in the ER having to have it drained after 5 hours of being in that state. From your description and my experience with my natural erections as well as a Trimix induced one, I think you're dangerously close to that threshold. I'd caution you to be EXTREMELY careful if you decide to use more.
Super glad it's worked well for you so far though.....IMO, it's fantastic that you landed on a dose that works for you right off the bat.
Thank you for your inputs!
I haven't decided to up my 2nd trial to 3 units, or stay with 2. Leaning towards, esp with your input, to do another 2 to test for repeatability. Or maybe even back it off to 1 to see if indeed it would help the glans be engorged a little.
I plan to stay with this mix and just be super careful.
Biggest problem so far is with red sore-type mark at the injection site that was very obvious the day of. Not sure how I should revise my injection technique to prevent that. :/
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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Hardonrescue wrote:Thank you for your inputs!
I haven't decided to up my 2nd trial to 3 units, or stay with 2. Leaning towards, esp with your input, to do another 2 to test for repeatability. Or maybe even back it off to 1 to see if indeed it would help the glans be engorged a little.
I plan to stay with this mix and just be super careful.
Biggest problem so far is with red sore-type mark at the injection site that was very obvious the day of. Not sure how I should revise my injection technique to prevent that. :/
Yeah, since your goal is to get up over an hour (you said up to 90 minutes)...that'd be the only real reason to go up a bit in dosage to the 3 units since Trimix isn't going to inflate your glans (I'd think it's at least plausible that the 2 units is so strong that it may be what's keeping the glans 'deflated' since so much blood is trapped in the shaft causing the super rigid erection).
Honestly, it couldn't hurt to try 1 unit to see what happens (hardest part would be drawing that small of a dose into the syringe consistently if it's the goldilocks dose for you). If nothing happens, no harm no foul. If it gives you a more normal (for you) slightly less rigid shaft and fully inflated head....well, then you have options for just how hard you want your erections. Having experienced both....the slightly less firm, but fully engorged head is definitely more impressive looking....but personally, I prefer the even harder erection as that pain/pleasure point of stretching the suspensory ligament as you use your cock like a pry bar to stretch your gf's pussy is my absolute favorite form of intercourse. Of course, YMMV.
Good luck with it and let us know how it all shakes out in terms of doses that work best and give the results you want. The info makes for great data points.
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Did my 2nd trial today; decided to reduce down from my first trial of 2 units to 1 unit (Doc had recommended starting at 5). It's tricky doing 1 unit on a 100 unit syringe, I'll need to get maybe a 30 unit syringe, like the one I used for my dog and the PT141 I administered to myself awhile back. I have some of those left over but the needle is 15/64 or 6mm - tempted to try these but likely a little too short based on what I've read here.
Following the suggested protocol, this time it was on the left side, which was more difficult to administer. 3 o'clock, about 1" from the base. This time the needle stung a little upon insertion but I didn't flinch, it still went in like butter, no resistance at all.
I concentrated more on applying pressure to the insertion area afterwards, for 3 minutes. I had a very noticeable red mark after my first trial, and thought maybe it was because I didn't pay enough attention to this..
Got a borderline chubby/mild erection after about 10 minutes. This time the head looked larger than the first trial. Everything responded to some stimulation, and it was good enough for sex, for maybe about 15 - 20 minutes. Then it started to deflate if I stopped the stimulation. So in the end, idt 1 will be enough, at least on it's own. Was thinking maybe 1 is enough if I pair it with a little C or V. Not ready to combine yet tho.
So it was a linear response, which is good. I think the trial was a success. All I want is predicktability.
Next time, who knows, maybe back to 2 units and see if it's repeatable from my first trial. I think I will do maybe 2 more trials, and if there are no surprises I'll be ready for the launch of my new robo-dick. lol
Following the suggested protocol, this time it was on the left side, which was more difficult to administer. 3 o'clock, about 1" from the base. This time the needle stung a little upon insertion but I didn't flinch, it still went in like butter, no resistance at all.
I concentrated more on applying pressure to the insertion area afterwards, for 3 minutes. I had a very noticeable red mark after my first trial, and thought maybe it was because I didn't pay enough attention to this..
Got a borderline chubby/mild erection after about 10 minutes. This time the head looked larger than the first trial. Everything responded to some stimulation, and it was good enough for sex, for maybe about 15 - 20 minutes. Then it started to deflate if I stopped the stimulation. So in the end, idt 1 will be enough, at least on it's own. Was thinking maybe 1 is enough if I pair it with a little C or V. Not ready to combine yet tho.
So it was a linear response, which is good. I think the trial was a success. All I want is predicktability.
Next time, who knows, maybe back to 2 units and see if it's repeatable from my first trial. I think I will do maybe 2 more trials, and if there are no surprises I'll be ready for the launch of my new robo-dick. lol
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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So, on your second attempt, did applying pressure to the injection site keep you from getting redmark? I ended up with a red mark after my first injection today. I didn't apply pressure because my doctor told me I didn't need to because it wasn't bleeding. I am not sure he gave good advice?
73 years old, married 30 years, used Levitra successfully for 15 years, tried Cialis, Stendra and Viagra, they never worked, now using Trimix
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Brad M wrote:So, on your second attempt, did applying pressure to the injection site keep you from getting redmark? I ended up with a red mark after my first injection today. I didn't apply pressure because my doctor told me I didn't need to because it wasn't bleeding. I am not sure he gave good advice?
Thanks for reminding me what I left out. On my 2nd injection, there was no red mark, and aside from looking generally flushed, the injection area looked much better after my 2nd trial. I think maybe the 3 minutes of pressure after the injection helped to prevent the red spot that was very noticeable and would have made me self conscious had a fair maiden been present to observe me in all my rigid glory.
I believe paying more careful attention to applying the pressure prevented the red mark. At least that's all I have to go on for now.
Many sources maintain the application of pressure right after is key to preventing scar tissue from forming. IDT the doc mentioned this, but most of the injection videos I watched emphasized applying pressure afterward.
So for now, the 3 minutes of pressure will be part of my sop.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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I was told when injecting to massage the whole area applying pressure .. such a small needle little chance of much bleeding .. but massaging it applies both pressure and helps spread the mix into the penis ..every dr. seems to have a different take on this ..I was told 2 and 10 positions for the shots then the dr. changed it to 9 and 3 and I seemed to get better results .. all of our bodies are different ..
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