Glad to hear the 2nd one went well too....sounds like 2 units may be the correct dose unless you want it to last longer (or you're willing to try the mix with the oral ED meds you mentioned).
Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Maiden Voyage for Trimix (without the Maiden)
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Just completed my 3rd trial....sticking on the side of being conservative, I did another 1 unit. Back on the right side, this time about 1/2" further up the shaft than last time. Concentrated on applying pressure/massaging the area of injection, 3-5 minutes after.
Results pretty much replicated last trial at 1 unit, a good thing. Not really a total involuntary stiffie, which seems to be the general result with trimix. I'd say I got 6/10 hard, but would go to 8 or 9/10 with stimulation, good enough for the deed.
Debating another trial at 2 units, or going live with 1 unit + 25 mg of C and/or a cock ring.
This time, very little post evidence of injection - no red mark afterwards, no general flushing of the area. Making progress on my technique.
Results pretty much replicated last trial at 1 unit, a good thing. Not really a total involuntary stiffie, which seems to be the general result with trimix. I'd say I got 6/10 hard, but would go to 8 or 9/10 with stimulation, good enough for the deed.
Debating another trial at 2 units, or going live with 1 unit + 25 mg of C and/or a cock ring.
This time, very little post evidence of injection - no red mark afterwards, no general flushing of the area. Making progress on my technique.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
Re: Maiden Voyage for Trimix (without the Maiden)
Sounds like you're on the right track. Congrats!
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Update on my trials - I knew things were going much too smoothly here. When it became apparent I was only going to use very small amounts of the 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 mix, I went out and bought some .3ml syringes which made metering the <5 unit volumes easier.
Trial #4 - went from 1 unit to 1.5 units (Yeah, I'm being super cautious lol). Expected a bump in results, but the results were slightly less than the two trials I did with 1 unit.
Trial #5 - Back to 2 units, replicating my first dose. 9 oclock, halfway up from base, right side. Easy peasy. Not so fast. Problem is, the results were not replicated. Much less an effect than my first trial at 2 units. Hmm. Now I'm really scratching my head. All I want is preDICKtability, and these are the results I didn't want to see. My first 2 unit trial, I was involuntarily hard for about 30 minutes, good enough for sex, and with a little stimulation, I was at 10/10. This time, same 2 units, nothing near that effect. Never even got rock hard at all unless I stimulated, then it would go away when I ignored it.
This time, there was a slight pinching pain upon insertion, more than the previous times. Also the plunger seemed to be a bit tougher to push, but that was the case with trial #4 too. But these new .3ml syringes used for trials 4 and 5 seem tight and are harder to push even when not injecting into anything, so I didnt think anything of it. I will say that I did get a tiny bit of blood in the syringe after all my injections which is the indication I'm hitting the right spots, correct?
Guess it's back to the drawing board. I figure I'm using such small amounts and my results have been so very far from any type of priapism so thinking I'll go to 3 or 4 units next.
Trial #4 - went from 1 unit to 1.5 units (Yeah, I'm being super cautious lol). Expected a bump in results, but the results were slightly less than the two trials I did with 1 unit.
Trial #5 - Back to 2 units, replicating my first dose. 9 oclock, halfway up from base, right side. Easy peasy. Not so fast. Problem is, the results were not replicated. Much less an effect than my first trial at 2 units. Hmm. Now I'm really scratching my head. All I want is preDICKtability, and these are the results I didn't want to see. My first 2 unit trial, I was involuntarily hard for about 30 minutes, good enough for sex, and with a little stimulation, I was at 10/10. This time, same 2 units, nothing near that effect. Never even got rock hard at all unless I stimulated, then it would go away when I ignored it.
This time, there was a slight pinching pain upon insertion, more than the previous times. Also the plunger seemed to be a bit tougher to push, but that was the case with trial #4 too. But these new .3ml syringes used for trials 4 and 5 seem tight and are harder to push even when not injecting into anything, so I didnt think anything of it. I will say that I did get a tiny bit of blood in the syringe after all my injections which is the indication I'm hitting the right spots, correct?
Guess it's back to the drawing board. I figure I'm using such small amounts and my results have been so very far from any type of priapism so thinking I'll go to 3 or 4 units next.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
Re: Maiden Voyage for Trimix (without the Maiden)
I don't know if there is any way to do it in an acceptably sterile manner but I'd consider going to your local compounding pharmacy and purchasing some bacteriostatic water IV injection solution along with sterile sealed vials, if possible, and diluting your mix by 8 times, so that your 1 unit becomes 8 units. I don't know how safely this can be done but if it's possible that's what you need to do. With the tiny amounts you're trying to do now I don't think there is any way you can get consistant results.
Or better yet, have your doctor order a much weaker mix.
Or better yet, have your doctor order a much weaker mix.
R.R.P 2011 Mayo Jacksonville, Dr. M. Wehle. Not nerve sparing. C in margins. Radiation 2023, V.E.D, Viagra and PGE-1 (80mcg/ml) injections @ 8 - 14 units. Originally Edex20, then compounded PGE due to cost. Inject. 12 yrs. It works. Treasure coast of FL.
Re: Maiden Voyage for Trimix (without the Maiden)
Hardonrescue wrote:Update on my trials - I knew things were going much too smoothly here. When it became apparent I was only going to use very small amounts of the 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 mix, I went out and bought some .3ml syringes which made metering the <5 unit volumes easier.
Trial #4 - went from 1 unit to 1.5 units (Yeah, I'm being super cautious lol). Expected a bump in results, but the results were slightly less than the two trials I did with 1 unit.
Trial #5 - Back to 2 units, replicating my first dose. 9 oclock, halfway up from base, right side. Easy peasy. Not so fast. Problem is, the results were not replicated. Much less an effect than my first trial at 2 units. Hmm. Now I'm really scratching my head. All I want is preDICKtability, and these are the results I didn't want to see. My first 2 unit trial, I was involuntarily hard for about 30 minutes, good enough for sex, and with a little stimulation, I was at 10/10. This time, same 2 units, nothing near that effect. Never even got rock hard at all unless I stimulated, then it would go away when I ignored it.
This time, there was a slight pinching pain upon insertion, more than the previous times. Also the plunger seemed to be a bit tougher to push, but that was the case with trial #4 too. But these new .3ml syringes used for trials 4 and 5 seem tight and are harder to push even when not injecting into anything, so I didnt think anything of it. I will say that I did get a tiny bit of blood in the syringe after all my injections which is the indication I'm hitting the right spots, correct?
Guess it's back to the drawing board. I figure I'm using such small amounts and my results have been so very far from any type of priapism so thinking I'll go to 3 or 4 units next.
Hmmm...I don't know that blood in the syringe is the way to tell you're hitting the right spot...at least that is not something I've read. Anyone else care to comment?
It sounds like your small dose may not be consistent, OR....you're not hitting the cavernosa as effectively as you did with the other syringes...which makes me wonder if you shouldn't first try going back to the other syringes (check the tips with eye loops to make sure they aren't barbed or damaged causing more pain upon insertion) that you had success with before upping the dose from 2 units.
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I've read here many times that upon injection, drawing in a little blood first. This is said to indicate you're in the cavernosa. Now I didn't see blood til the end, after I'd injected all the trimix in, and then I can see a tiny drop of blood at the bottom of the empty syringe. Probably when I let go of the plunger before withdrawing, a little blood gets sucked back in. My thinking is that little drop of blood should be the same indicator that I'm in the right place.Sean762 wrote:
Hmmm...I don't know that blood in the syringe is the way to tell you're hitting the right spot...at least that is not something I've read. Anyone else care to comment?
It sounds like your small dose may not be consistent, OR....you're not hitting the cavernosa as effectively as you did with the other syringes...which makes me wonder if you shouldn't first try going back to the other syringes (check the tips with eye loops to make sure they aren't barbed or damaged causing more pain upon insertion) that you had success with before upping the dose from 2 units.
Yes, next injection going back to the earlier syringes I had more success with. And up the units to 3-4 units. Getting tired of going in circles here. Maybe I'm being too much of a chickensht about it. With these results Idt I'm anywhere near any dangerous dose.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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I think I'm likely being too conservative and that my ultimate dose will be probably around 5 units, which should make it easier to gain some semblance of consistency and preDICKtability. So not throwing in the towel yet on this mix . TBH, I've read so many accounts of ER visits and impaled boners that I'm just scared of this stuff, hence being a bit over-conservative. Which I guess is better than being too aggressive. I am lucky in that pills still work for me (barely lol) so I can titrate up without any rush, without wife, GF, or both lol, looming and waiting for that long promised revitalized boner to rise again from the ashes.bldoink wrote:I don't know if there is any way to do it in an acceptably sterile manner but I'd consider going to your local compounding pharmacy and purchasing some bacteriostatic water IV injection solution along with sterile sealed vials, if possible, and diluting your mix by 8 times, so that your 1 unit becomes 8 units. I don't know how safely this can be done but if it's possible that's what you need to do. With the tiny amounts you're trying to do now I don't think there is any way you can get consistant results.
Or better yet, have your doctor order a much weaker mix.
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
Re: Maiden Voyage for Trimix (without the Maiden)
Hardonrescue wrote:I've read here many times that upon injection, drawing in a little blood first. This is said to indicate you're in the cavernosa. Now I didn't see blood til the end, after I'd injected all the trimix in, and then I can see a tiny drop of blood at the bottom of the empty syringe. Probably when I let go of the plunger before withdrawing, a little blood gets sucked back in. My thinking is that little drop of blood should be the same indicator that I'm in the right place.Sean762 wrote:
Hmmm...I don't know that blood in the syringe is the way to tell you're hitting the right spot...at least that is not something I've read. Anyone else care to comment?
It sounds like your small dose may not be consistent, OR....you're not hitting the cavernosa as effectively as you did with the other syringes...which makes me wonder if you shouldn't first try going back to the other syringes (check the tips with eye loops to make sure they aren't barbed or damaged causing more pain upon insertion) that you had success with before upping the dose from 2 units.
Yes, next injection going back to the earlier syringes I had more success with. And up the units to 3-4 units. Getting tired of going in circles here. Maybe I'm being too much of a chickensht about it. With these results Idt I'm anywhere near any dangerous dose.
Well, good luck with it and let us know how it goes. It's good data for others trying to dial in their own regimen.
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I think I'm ready to go live with this stuff now. I did 2 more trials, #5 and #6 for me, and the results were good and fell within what I would consider PreDICKtable.
#5 - Did 3 units, .3ml, 30G syringe, left side, about 1" from base 3 oclock. No pain, very little resistance. Held pressure/massage on the injection point for 5-6 min afterwards. 15 min to rock hard and lasted about 45 min, hard with no stimulation. This subsided a bit after that but could resummons the rock hard with stimulation for 30 min after that.
#6 - 4 units, .5ml, 31G syringe, right side, 1/2 way between base and head, 10 0'clock. No pain, very little resistance again. Held pressure on injection point 5-6 min afterwards. Rock hard after 15-20 min, for an hour, no need for stimulation at all. Started to lose steam at the 1 hour mark, but could get rock hard again another 45 min after that with some stimulation. 2 hours back to normal..
Tells me the beginning sweet spot for me is about 4 units to see what happens with a partner. I don't have marathons (unfortunately) so about an hour+ is likely all I need.
I think I've hit the cc all 6 times. Don't know if that's dumb luck, or being careful, or if my CC are large. But my dick is pretty skinny, so who knows.
I still have a problem with red mark at the injection site, looks like a bug bite. Pretty conspicuous. Enough to maybe gross somebody out if they look closely enough. Lasts a couple days. Anyone have any tips on how to minimize that?
#5 - Did 3 units, .3ml, 30G syringe, left side, about 1" from base 3 oclock. No pain, very little resistance. Held pressure/massage on the injection point for 5-6 min afterwards. 15 min to rock hard and lasted about 45 min, hard with no stimulation. This subsided a bit after that but could resummons the rock hard with stimulation for 30 min after that.
#6 - 4 units, .5ml, 31G syringe, right side, 1/2 way between base and head, 10 0'clock. No pain, very little resistance again. Held pressure on injection point 5-6 min afterwards. Rock hard after 15-20 min, for an hour, no need for stimulation at all. Started to lose steam at the 1 hour mark, but could get rock hard again another 45 min after that with some stimulation. 2 hours back to normal..
Tells me the beginning sweet spot for me is about 4 units to see what happens with a partner. I don't have marathons (unfortunately) so about an hour+ is likely all I need.
I think I've hit the cc all 6 times. Don't know if that's dumb luck, or being careful, or if my CC are large. But my dick is pretty skinny, so who knows.
I still have a problem with red mark at the injection site, looks like a bug bite. Pretty conspicuous. Enough to maybe gross somebody out if they look closely enough. Lasts a couple days. Anyone have any tips on how to minimize that?
64, fit, active, healthy, gym/cardio/yoga buff, no prob my whole life til several years ago. Lately getting worse. No meds exc C/V. Bloods OK, T OK. C/V worked for awhile, effectiveness is declining. Now titrating 30 Pap/3 Phen/20 PGE1 trimix blend.
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