Implant failure increase

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Pamen116
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Implant failure increase

Postby Pamen116 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:37 am

Seems like many revisions are being done. I’m wondering if the manufacturer is using cheaper material or that surgeons are not doing procedures right.
30 yrs old. Current IPP failed in 2022. Waiting revision. No insurance. I’ve had both Titan & AMS.

Old Guy
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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby Old Guy » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:43 am

I don't think more revisions are being done, you're just reading all the wrong posts. Remember that more guys are going to post problems they are having than guys posting my implant is working good and I'm busy using it.
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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby Txagq8 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am

Before you make a statement like that you ought to offer some hard numerical evidence.

I think it much more likely:

The rate of failures has remained about the same, but more guys are getting implanted.

You are more likely to hear from an individual on a message board who is having trouble than one who is happily successfully implanted and spends all his time getting laid.

I don’t think manufacturers of a product like this are looking to cut corners. If anything there’s a constant push to improve and refine the implant ie make it better and more reliable. Saving a few bucks in manufacturing costs of something less reliable would play hell with your market share in basically a 2-provider market.
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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby LastHope » Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:36 pm

Nothing lasts forever, especially mechanical devices that endure wear and tear. But hey, you never know—you might get lucky and have it last a lifetime!

7% of implants fail by the first year
9% of implants fail within three years
13% of implants fail within five years
23% of implants fail within ten years
36% of implants fail within 15 years
48% of implants fail within 20 years

Source:
Long-Term Survival Rates of Inflatable Penile Prostheses: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
Larry E Miller et al. Urology. 2022 Aug.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35421510/

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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:30 pm

Pamen116 wrote:Seems like many revisions are being done. I’m wondering if the manufacturer is using cheaper material or that surgeons are not doing procedures right.

Maybe there is more members on FT. Thus more reporting of revisions due to the bigger pool.

My pool of one is at zero revisions. It pays to put it into perspective.
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Hrc714
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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby Hrc714 » Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:06 am

[quote="LastHope"]Nothing lasts forever, especially mechanical devices that endure wear and tear. But hey, you never know—you might get lucky and have it last a lifetime!

7% of implants fail by the first year
9% of implants fail within three years
13% of implants fail within five years
23% of implants fail within ten years
36% of implants fail within 15 years
48% of implants fail within 20 years

First time I saw this data. I would have expected the first year infant mortality failure, followed by a period of low failure rates and a spike at the wearout period. I guess that variations in use rate gets into the mix. Thanks for providing! Just wish I was not one of the lucky 9%.
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LastHope
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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby LastHope » Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:21 pm

Hrc714 wrote:
LastHope wrote:Nothing lasts forever, especially mechanical devices that endure wear and tear. But hey, you never know—you might get lucky and have it last a lifetime!

7% of implants fail by the first year
9% of implants fail within three years
13% of implants fail within five years
23% of implants fail within ten years
36% of implants fail within 15 years
48% of implants fail within 20 years

First time I saw this data. I would have expected the first year infant mortality failure, followed by a period of low failure rates and a spike at the wearout period. I guess that variations in use rate gets into the mix. Thanks for providing! Just wish I was not one of the lucky 9%.


You're welcome! This data is quite eye-opening: 52% of IPPs remain functional at the 20-year mark. Honestly, I'm impressed. Of course, a bit of luck is always helpful!

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Re: Implant failure increase

Postby Up4Real? » Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:34 pm

As an aside, I would be curious if those of you who have been blessed with a generous number of cm, say over 22cm. have an increased failure rate.... or decreased failure rate for that matter.
Just asking. :|
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