TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby TruthEdge » Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:28 pm

cbinspok wrote:TruthEdge
Excellent reporting, I too had issues w low body fat, requiring a second op where the abdomen had to be opened a bit. I still can feel it when doing crunches. Lol. I am interested in this new pump any pictures? If you’re interested there are pictures of my reservore after the initial surgery on ft , it’s not a pretty site , ha second surgery fixed it all.

Wow that is crazy! You made me feel better about Dr. Morey moving the reservoir before he finished sowing me up! As I activate my abs I can feel what you are talking about as I feel the reservoir a bit. Not a bad feeling just a feeling that something is there. Pictures of my scrotum wont show much really for the pump. I will think about it though. Thanks
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby TruthEdge » Sat Aug 03, 2024 8:50 pm

kbb1957 wrote:Howdy TruthEdge:
I don't know if this would factor into cycling of implant from 3 week activation benchmark onward; however, keep in mind that a capsule is forming not only on the cylinders but also on the reservoir.
At some other authority site someone asked why the cylinders were not left pumped up closer to 100% after surgery and wouldn't that also avoid the pain normally encountered when cycling is started. The response revolved around the capsule formation on the cylinders AND also on the reservoir.
If the cylinders were 100% pumped up and the reservoir was left empty early on then the capsule that forms on the reservoir would impact the deflation of the cylinders. It seems the chubby state is a compromise.

"Later that evening though I started to have a new pain and discomfort like my penis was about to explode."
Do you think when you do start cycling that you are going to have significant pain from the placement of your reservoir? I hope not, maybe that area is not nearly as sensitive as the penis.

Reading your post has reinforced my goal to lose substantially more weight before I get my implant.
BTW, I picked up my ICI prescription today. I need to get my zoom call scheduled/done and I will start doing injections as part of my rehab process (and hopefully other activities too).
The pharmacy instructed me to keep the non-punctured vials frozen and the vial that is punctured should stay in the refrigerator. I did not think BiMix needed this. That was one of my reasons to start with BiMix versus TriMix.

yeah didnt think about the reservoir psuedo-capsule, but cycling could hinder the reservoir psuedo-capsule then there would be issues for the IP guys who are cycling within 3-7 days of surgery. Plus I am not talking about long cycling sessions or perito exercises yet. I was just thinking of pumping it up to highest I can tolerate a couple times a day and immediately deflate it back to 60-70%. Just for the last 3 weeks mind you until I get fully cleared to hammer this thing! I think the main issue with starting too soon cycling of PS guys like me is the risk of infection due to your hands rubbing the incision area. Mine is actually about 80% healed with not scabs, glue, etc. so my incision should be totally healed at 3 week mark anyway. Just something to think about as I sort of already broke the seal in messing with it!

The penis exploding part has gone away so I assume it was just part of healing. There might be a hint of that feeling left as my current chubby feel similar to my erection on trimix after ejaculation. That trimix was nasty and worse though causing pain for almost an hour afterwards with 60% erection.

Dealing with the fridge and freezer is not too bad. I would find a good needle and the fill all my needles with trimix until vial was gone and just freeze the needles in a tupperwear container. Just be sure to put some air in the syringe to allow the liquid to expand as it freezes. I would then just grab a couple needles when time to get with my wife and the needles were thawed after some foreplay that was needed anyway so I could get a little bit of an erection in order to hit the spot better with the needles. I do not recommend it but it was taking a needle in both side of my penis in order to get me hard enough for penetration and even then it got soft quick.

As far as weight loss goes - I think you are wise for getting to where you want first. You would hate for the reservoir to be in a bad place only to find this out later after you lost more weight. At the same time dont wait too long as you are losing length at the same time. JMO
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby Thisworld » Sun Aug 04, 2024 10:06 am

How many full pumps you need to get 100% inflation?
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby Mark1974 » Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:06 pm

I know the neck is a little longer in the Tenacio pump, but I'm wondering if it is much bigger than the MS pump

I forgot to bring up the pump with my uro, so I will have to message his office about it. The promotional for the Tenacio made it sound like an improvement
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby TruthEdge » Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:05 pm

Thisworld wrote:How many full pumps you need to get 100% inflation?

Don’t know for sure since I am not at the cycling stage yet. Dr. Morey claimed that I will be able to go from flaccid to 100% erect in about 7 pumps.
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby TruthEdge » Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:47 pm

Mark1974 wrote:I know the neck is a little longer in the Tenacio pump, but I'm wondering if it is much bigger than the MS pump

I forgot to bring up the pump with my uro, so I will have to message his office about it. The promotional for the Tenacio made it sound like an improvement

First time pump so not sure difference in size between the two. Time will tell whether it bothers me especially when training/racing on bicycle. So far it hasn’t bothered me too bad but I am doing nothing athletic right now of course since I am recovering.

Dr. Morey was excited about the Tenacio because it addressed all the issues he had seen in the MS Pump by add the double valve systems and ridges for grip, etc. I can confirm it is very easy to grip, and it was easy to add a pump to my chubby and to do a quick tap deflate to reduce it sligthtly. I think it will be highly tunable from teh deflate standpoint. Quick tap to get erection just right or hold for a few seconds and it go in complete deflate mode. Time will tell, but I was happy to go with it since AMS decided to test it another 6 months past the FDA approval. So I am optimistic overall.
ED @ 36. Bionic 7/23/24 @ 47: AMS CX 21CM+2CM RTE+12MM Diameter+Tenacio Pump+100ML Conceal Reservoir+Vertical Penoscrotal by Dr. Allen Morey - Urology Clinics of North Texas. XC Marathon MTB Racer since 2015 for fellow Cyclist with questions!

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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby returntocenter » Sun Aug 04, 2024 9:32 pm

TruthEdge wrote:
Mark1974 wrote:I know the neck is a little longer in the Tenacio pump, but I'm wondering if it is much bigger than the MS pump

I forgot to bring up the pump with my uro, so I will have to message his office about it. The promotional for the Tenacio made it sound like an improvement

First time pump so not sure difference in size between the two. Time will tell whether it bothers me especially when training/racing on bicycle. So far it hasn’t bothered me too bad but I am doing nothing athletic right now of course since I am recovering.

Dr. Morey was excited about the Tenacio because it addressed all the issues he had seen in the MS Pump by add the double valve systems and ridges for grip, etc. I can confirm it is very easy to grip, and it was easy to add a pump to my chubby and to do a quick tap deflate to reduce it sligthtly. I think it will be highly tunable from teh deflate standpoint. Quick tap to get erection just right or hold for a few seconds and it go in complete deflate mode. Time will tell, but I was happy to go with it since AMS decided to test it another 6 months past the FDA approval. So I am optimistic overall.


Interesting - I imagine Dr. Morey told you AMS decided to test the pump for 6 additional months? I hadn't heard about that. So that's why the launch has taken so long. I'm glad they did that though, it sounds reassuring.
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby TruthEdge » Mon Aug 05, 2024 3:22 pm

returntocenter wrote:
TruthEdge wrote:
Mark1974 wrote:I know the neck is a little longer in the Tenacio pump, but I'm wondering if it is much bigger than the MS pump

I forgot to bring up the pump with my uro, so I will have to message his office about it. The promotional for the Tenacio made it sound like an improvement

First time pump so not sure difference in size between the two. Time will tell whether it bothers me especially when training/racing on bicycle. So far it hasn’t bothered me too bad but I am doing nothing athletic right now of course since I am recovering.

Dr. Morey was excited about the Tenacio because it addressed all the issues he had seen in the MS Pump by add the double valve systems and ridges for grip, etc. I can confirm it is very easy to grip, and it was easy to add a pump to my chubby and to do a quick tap deflate to reduce it sligthtly. I think it will be highly tunable from teh deflate standpoint. Quick tap to get erection just right or hold for a few seconds and it go in complete deflate mode. Time will tell, but I was happy to go with it since AMS decided to test it another 6 months past the FDA approval. So I am optimistic overall.


Interesting - I imagine Dr. Morey told you AMS decided to test the pump for 6 additional months? I hadn't heard about that. So that's why the launch has taken so long. I'm glad they did that though, it sounds reassuring.


Most of this is from my own research heading into all this. Dr. Morey confirmed that Boston Scientific/AMS continued to test Tenacio after November 2023 FDA approval. My understanding from the articles I read is that Boston Scientific continued to test the Tenacio with in house surgeons and select few patients from Novemeber 2023 FDA approval until June 2024 to work any kinks in the manufacturing of components. In June of this year Boston Scientific selected 10 AMS Center of Excellence Doctor to have access to begin using the Tenacio in their patient. Dr. Morey was one of the 10 doctors selected. One of the articles I read said that BS hoped to release the Tenacio to all doctors by end of 2024 after receiving feedback from these 10 Center of Excellence Doctors. All this is what made me feel comfortable going to Tenacio now. BS/AMS is not trying to rush this and they want to make sure everything it starting on positive experience for everyone. That impressed me. They could have released it to all Doctors following the FDA approval but they are more concerned about the long game in this than a quick buck. It make sense too really! Do you really want to give the Tenacio to a doctor that does 5 implants a year and risk there being negative reviews of the Tenacio when the issue was possibly due to lack of experience of a low volume doctor. It’s just the way I am choosing to looking at it and I trust Dr. Morey when he recommended Tenacio to me. I could have gone the MS, but longevity is one of my concerns being 47. I know I will have to do a revision and I was excited for Tenacio that addresses all the mechanical issues of the MS that have caused revisions at times doe t failed pumps. Time will tell of course, but my hope is to get at least 10 years on before my next revision.
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby returntocenter » Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:33 pm

TruthEdge wrote:
returntocenter wrote:
TruthEdge wrote:First time pump so not sure difference in size between the two. Time will tell whether it bothers me especially when training/racing on bicycle. So far it hasn’t bothered me too bad but I am doing nothing athletic right now of course since I am recovering.

Dr. Morey was excited about the Tenacio because it addressed all the issues he had seen in the MS Pump by add the double valve systems and ridges for grip, etc. I can confirm it is very easy to grip, and it was easy to add a pump to my chubby and to do a quick tap deflate to reduce it sligthtly. I think it will be highly tunable from teh deflate standpoint. Quick tap to get erection just right or hold for a few seconds and it go in complete deflate mode. Time will tell, but I was happy to go with it since AMS decided to test it another 6 months past the FDA approval. So I am optimistic overall.


Interesting - I imagine Dr. Morey told you AMS decided to test the pump for 6 additional months? I hadn't heard about that. So that's why the launch has taken so long. I'm glad they did that though, it sounds reassuring.


Most of this is from my own research heading into all this. Dr. Morey confirmed that Boston Scientific/AMS continued to test Tenacio after November 2023 FDA approval. My understanding from the articles I read is that Boston Scientific continued to test the Tenacio with in house surgeons and select few patients from Novemeber 2023 FDA approval until June 2024 to work any kinks in the manufacturing of components. In June of this year Boston Scientific selected 10 AMS Center of Excellence Doctor to have access to begin using the Tenacio in their patient. Dr. Morey was one of the 10 doctors selected. One of the articles I read said that BS hoped to release the Tenacio to all doctors by end of 2024 after receiving feedback from these 10 Center of Excellence Doctors. All this is what made me feel comfortable going to Tenacio now. BS/AMS is not trying to rush this and they want to make sure everything it starting on positive experience for everyone. That impressed me. They could have released it to all Doctors following the FDA approval but they are more concerned about the long game in this than a quick buck. It make sense too really! Do you really want to give the Tenacio to a doctor that does 5 implants a year and risk there being negative reviews of the Tenacio when the issue was possibly due to lack of experience of a low volume doctor. It’s just the way I am choosing to looking at it and I trust Dr. Morey when he recommended Tenacio to me. I could have gone the MS, but longevity is one of my concerns being 47. I know I will have to do a revision and I was excited for Tenacio that addresses all the mechanical issues of the MS that have caused revisions at times doe t failed pumps. Time will tell of course, but my hope is to get at least 10 years on before my next revision.


Appreciate the explanation TruthEdge. It would be great to see the Tenacio pump live up to the hype, and AMS seems to be working towards making this a reality.

On a separate note, how is your recovery coming along?
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Re: TruthEdge 7/23/24 Journal + Tenacio Pump + Dr. Morey

Postby Stewy78 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:53 am

Hi TruthEdge, I'm happy to read your experience. I'm also a mountain biker (both Enduro and xc) and road cyclist, I ride a lot (about 10k km each year). Im 36 and I currently have a titan. I already had some revisions. Have you already started to ride? What your doc says about mountain bike with an implant? I have some fears that my early titan tubing failure may be related to cycling.
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