Hi everyone:
I'm maybe almost six weeks out from surgery, and so far, the result looks and feels good. Doctor did a great job. My one issue is that I'm somewhere around a half an inch away from my original size, which I was told I would reclaim with daily cycling.
I'm a little confused about cycling to regain lost length. Is it absolutely necessary to "max inflate" (inflate to a point of discomfort), or to simply, comfortably inflate the implant daily? How many times a day should this be mandatorily done? Once? Twice? And for how long? 30 minutes? 1 hour?
I ask because, while I love inflating, the discomfort of "max inflation" is just such a bitch. Does the LGX expand simply with repeated use, or is it imperative to inflate to an uncomfortable extent?
Any information on this matter would be great. Same goes for tips.
Thanks again,
F1
A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic erectile dysfunction following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, even spinal injections. Nada.
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Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
fucked0ne wrote:Hi everyone:
I'm maybe almost six weeks out from surgery, and so far, the result looks and feels good. Doctor did a great job. My one issue is that I'm somewhere around a half an inch away from my original size, which I was told I would reclaim with daily cycling.
I'm a little confused about cycling to regain lost length. Is it absolutely necessary to "max inflate" (inflate to a point of discomfort), or to simply, comfortably inflate the implant daily? How many times a day should this be mandatorily done? Once? Twice? And for how long? 30 minutes? 1 hour?
I ask because, while I love inflating, the discomfort of "max inflation" is just such a bitch. Does the LGX expand simply with repeated use, or is it imperative to inflate to an uncomfortable extent?
Any information on this matter would be great. Same goes for tips.
Thanks again,
F1
I don't believe the implant can expand with repeated use, if that was the case after a few years we would all have 20inch penis , the rods are a specific size and won't increase, but penis can regain lost size making it look bigger, but the implant remains the same (I believe, I haven't had an implant yet just from what I've heard). I've read that a lot of people once they get a revision, they tend to go up in size as they've increase from their pre implant size now needing a bigger implant.
Age - 34
2020 - Discovered I had ED
2020 - Started ED Medication
2022 - Started injections, Caverject/Viridal Duo
2024 - Injections starting to slowly not work
2024 - Attempting to try invicorp injection before deciding on implant.
2020 - Discovered I had ED
2020 - Started ED Medication
2022 - Started injections, Caverject/Viridal Duo
2024 - Injections starting to slowly not work
2024 - Attempting to try invicorp injection before deciding on implant.
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
Just my opinion but yes! If you’re not pumping to uncomfortable level you will never get your tissues or the cylinders stretched out. Start watching Peritos you tube videos on “Meet the penis”. It’s very educational. In more than one video he states that all cylinders actually stretch to some degree as they break in. The deal is that some are designed to do so and retract ea time you inflate. My titan actually retracts back to 5-1/2” when flaccid from my 6-3/4” maxes out length. When flaccid it crinkles up like an accordion, which is what people call dog ears but it’s so soft and thin feeling when it’s fully broke in that it’s not uncomfortable or noticeable. I can feel it when deflated but have to probe around a lot to find the crinkles.If you read here a lot it’s very common to be upward of an inch or more short and most regain all they lost including me. If the cylinders didn’t stretch out as they break in the glands would be killing you when you pump up. I never felt much pressure in my glands but did however gain (stretch) back out to my full original length, it took 10-12 months though.
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong and loving it!
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
I think you should follow your doctors' instructions on cycling. Once your doctor releases you then you can consider other options for cycling.
As far as going to max inflation I have been of the understanding that you need to try to get to a point where you feel some stretching. Like stretching out a muscle before exercise. If that turns to pain then deflate.
After I was released, I went to adding pumps or forcing additional pumps. I would inflate to max and wait 5 or so minutes and then add a few pumps or whatever I could. Again I would feel stretching and then that would lessen over the 5 minutes or so and I would then be able to add pumps. If it reached the point of pain I would stop and deflate. This is after I was released by my doctor so no need to consider this now just some time in the future.
I had gains out past 1 year with my LGX and 2 times a day cycling up to an hour. I am just under an inch shorter than I was in my healthy youth. I had no pre surgery measurement as nothing worked other than a VED.
The LGX will expand if there is room. If your tissue will stretch the LGX can fill that space and more than the CX or the Titan. Table 1 in this document shows this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/
There is not unlimited expansion but there is a few cm's. I would expect that you will get close to your pre op size by cycling every day. It will take time and the gains will be very small. So no need to measure every day or even every week. Every month or 2 would be more likely to show gains.
As far as going to max inflation I have been of the understanding that you need to try to get to a point where you feel some stretching. Like stretching out a muscle before exercise. If that turns to pain then deflate.
After I was released, I went to adding pumps or forcing additional pumps. I would inflate to max and wait 5 or so minutes and then add a few pumps or whatever I could. Again I would feel stretching and then that would lessen over the 5 minutes or so and I would then be able to add pumps. If it reached the point of pain I would stop and deflate. This is after I was released by my doctor so no need to consider this now just some time in the future.
I had gains out past 1 year with my LGX and 2 times a day cycling up to an hour. I am just under an inch shorter than I was in my healthy youth. I had no pre surgery measurement as nothing worked other than a VED.
The LGX will expand if there is room. If your tissue will stretch the LGX can fill that space and more than the CX or the Titan. Table 1 in this document shows this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5654325/
There is not unlimited expansion but there is a few cm's. I would expect that you will get close to your pre op size by cycling every day. It will take time and the gains will be very small. So no need to measure every day or even every week. Every month or 2 would be more likely to show gains.
Injections failed. Implanted 3-21-18 AMS 700 LGX 21 + 1 RTE 100 cc reservoir 6.5" L 5" G Dr. Kramer.
Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer
66 years young.
Will show and tell and talk with others.
Proximal Perforation Sling Repair 4/13/21 Dr. Broghammer
66 years young.
Will show and tell and talk with others.
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
fucked0ne wrote:Hi everyone:
I'm maybe almost six weeks out from surgery, and so far, the result looks and feels good. Doctor did a great job. My one issue is that I'm somewhere around a half an inch away from my original size, which I was told I would reclaim with daily cycling.
I'm a little confused about cycling to regain lost length. Is it absolutely necessary to "max inflate" (inflate to a point of discomfort), or to simply, comfortably inflate the implant daily? How many times a day should this be mandatorily done? Once? Twice? And for how long? 30 minutes? 1 hour?
I ask because, while I love inflating, the discomfort of "max inflation" is just such a bitch. Does the LGX expand simply with repeated use, or is it imperative to inflate to an uncomfortable extent?
Any information on this matter would be great. Same goes for tips.
Thanks again,
F1
F1, I have the same type implant as you do, the AMS 700 LGX, which does expand 25% more. You're at 6 weeks so you should be going back to your doc for implant training and protocol on cycling your implant.
I wouldn't worry too much about where you are now, I was only around 5 inches at the 6 week mark, 1.5 inches short of where I was before the surgery.
My docs protocol for cycling was twice a day 20 minutes in the shower for a total of 40 minutes a day. My showers didn't take that long, so I would shave and leave it inflated. I could barely get past 20 minutes when I first started cycling, I feel you brother, it was painful.
I would also do warm Sitz Baths 3 to 4 times a week, I did this on my own trying to stretch the tissue and be able to go without a lot of pain as long as I could. It started getting better for me at 4 months with the pain and past 6 months it got way better. I would sit in the bath and pump up to 70 or 80 percent and stretch my dick up and down and side to side for 5 minutes and then I would inflate it to the max and see how long I could go.
All of us are different and heal different. I was worried that the pain would never go away and I would have problems having sex, but each week it got better and I could go longer periods of time in the warm bath fully inflated. I can now go 2 or more hours without any discomfort, I'm 33 months out from surgery.
F1, make sure you follow your doctors protocol but I did go a little extra.
It's important to cycle and stretch your tissue before the surgical capsule is formed. Also, it's important to fully deflate so that the reservoir has the proper space to take all the saline back in.
Good Luck F1,
If you want more detail PM me
SWorks
Age 66, Garden Ridge Texas, Progressive ED after Boston Scientific Rezum procedure for benign enlarged prostate 19 May 21, AMS LGX 18 w 3cm rear tips installed 5 Nov 2021 by Dr Shane Barney, Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Married 36 years
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
I’m in agreement with responders here. You only have so much tissue in the penis, as you have only so much space for the saline to fill in both cavernosa cylinders.
As for the discomfort? Expect it and embrace it! That’s what will grow your dick back to somewhat your original size.
You should feel some internal pressure in the area immediately behind your glans( yes, it’s GLANS, not glands)
Pump until you feel the pressure, then give it one more squeeze if you can stand it. Keep it inflated for as long as you can stand it. I sometimes leave mine inflated for hours, and I’m ten months out from surgery. Did I get my full size back? Hell no, but it’s HARD and fucks like a champ, for as long as I want or until the pussy gets raw!
Not pulling any punches, nor exaggerating, but I tire out way before my Dick does.
As for the discomfort? Expect it and embrace it! That’s what will grow your dick back to somewhat your original size.
You should feel some internal pressure in the area immediately behind your glans( yes, it’s GLANS, not glands)
Pump until you feel the pressure, then give it one more squeeze if you can stand it. Keep it inflated for as long as you can stand it. I sometimes leave mine inflated for hours, and I’m ten months out from surgery. Did I get my full size back? Hell no, but it’s HARD and fucks like a champ, for as long as I want or until the pussy gets raw!
Not pulling any punches, nor exaggerating, but I tire out way before my Dick does.
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
It would not be a proper thread unless I tossed out a long winded dissertation so I will apologize in advance for the length. I have been exactly where you are with exactly the same equipment, so I have a responsibility to share my experience and observations.
Note: I am not a doctor, so some of what I say is opinion based solely on my experience.
If, when cycling, you experienced some discomfort, that is perfectly normal. If you were pumping or cycling and experience significant pain, you were probably going too far. It always pays to listen to your body. Pain is a significant indicator that something is not right. It is normal for there to be some discomfort as you stretch tissues that have been insulted by surgery.
It will help a lot if you can visualize this. You had two cylindrical cavities running, north-south along the length of your dick. Those cavities used to be filled with spongy tissues that would fill up with blood in resulting in erection. Now you have two cylinders, each capable of expanding in length and girth, installed in there. And it sort of goes without saying that that is going to change the way things feel.
Think about those cylinders for a moment. When deflated, there is room for them to expand in length and girth. Deflated there is no discomfort. OK, then you start to inflate. It’s pretty easy going until the cylinders have enough fluid pumped into them that they occupy all of that cavity. Only when you have them inflated to the point they begin to expand and press on the sides of that cylindrical cavity will you feel any discomfort. At some point during the process of inflation, you will get enough fluid in the cylinders, and they will have expanded enough to start pressing on the tunica-the fiber sheath in which the corporal bodies were encased. By this time it is probably more difficult to move fluid from the pump to the cylinders and you’re probably seeing the sharpest discomfort or pain that you experience.
It was my experience that this will diminish over time. Surgery is always an assault on the body and there will be scar tissue and there will be soreness for longer than you think during recovery. I personally may have been a little conservative as I started cycling, but it did not seem to cost me any size.
I am very reluctant to try and assign a percentage when pumping up. As you have noticed, there is not a gauge. Even after nearly 5 years, I’m not sure that I have ever pumped this implant up to its maximum potential. My technique, which works for me, consists of a whole lot of very small, short squeezes. Anything past 10 I would be rigid enough to enter a pussy with no trouble. In order to get the size & the angle, I often go past 60. But keep in mind these are short little squeezes, not squeezing the bulb wall-to-wall.
Honestly, I think you’re doing quite well. You’re way early in the process. I saw a big gain when the last of the swelling went away about three months. Then the gains were slow, but sure up until about a year. Even after that I think there has been some incremental stretch.
Like others and said you can always PM me if you have a specific question. My experience with this LGX is it’s a great device & quite reliable & does a very good job of emulating a natural erection. Discomfort is ok but pain is a warning so proceed judiciously & wisely.
Note: I am not a doctor, so some of what I say is opinion based solely on my experience.
If, when cycling, you experienced some discomfort, that is perfectly normal. If you were pumping or cycling and experience significant pain, you were probably going too far. It always pays to listen to your body. Pain is a significant indicator that something is not right. It is normal for there to be some discomfort as you stretch tissues that have been insulted by surgery.
It will help a lot if you can visualize this. You had two cylindrical cavities running, north-south along the length of your dick. Those cavities used to be filled with spongy tissues that would fill up with blood in resulting in erection. Now you have two cylinders, each capable of expanding in length and girth, installed in there. And it sort of goes without saying that that is going to change the way things feel.
Think about those cylinders for a moment. When deflated, there is room for them to expand in length and girth. Deflated there is no discomfort. OK, then you start to inflate. It’s pretty easy going until the cylinders have enough fluid pumped into them that they occupy all of that cavity. Only when you have them inflated to the point they begin to expand and press on the sides of that cylindrical cavity will you feel any discomfort. At some point during the process of inflation, you will get enough fluid in the cylinders, and they will have expanded enough to start pressing on the tunica-the fiber sheath in which the corporal bodies were encased. By this time it is probably more difficult to move fluid from the pump to the cylinders and you’re probably seeing the sharpest discomfort or pain that you experience.
It was my experience that this will diminish over time. Surgery is always an assault on the body and there will be scar tissue and there will be soreness for longer than you think during recovery. I personally may have been a little conservative as I started cycling, but it did not seem to cost me any size.
I am very reluctant to try and assign a percentage when pumping up. As you have noticed, there is not a gauge. Even after nearly 5 years, I’m not sure that I have ever pumped this implant up to its maximum potential. My technique, which works for me, consists of a whole lot of very small, short squeezes. Anything past 10 I would be rigid enough to enter a pussy with no trouble. In order to get the size & the angle, I often go past 60. But keep in mind these are short little squeezes, not squeezing the bulb wall-to-wall.
Honestly, I think you’re doing quite well. You’re way early in the process. I saw a big gain when the last of the swelling went away about three months. Then the gains were slow, but sure up until about a year. Even after that I think there has been some incremental stretch.
Like others and said you can always PM me if you have a specific question. My experience with this LGX is it’s a great device & quite reliable & does a very good job of emulating a natural erection. Discomfort is ok but pain is a warning so proceed judiciously & wisely.
Age 68. Physically fit educated red neck in Texas. Very married. 23 cm (18+5) of LGX installed by Dr. Bryan Kansas 12/31/2019. I fought the ED and my wife & I won. I’m either full of shit or sound advice. You decide which.
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Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
I feel like adding my less knowledge and less experienced opinion that I did max inflate to as high as I ever could. It worked. It was probably not necessary, but it worked and nothing got broke, plus it's possible there's benefits for other exercises.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.
Goal to prove implants increase dick size
Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"
Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"
Goal: 10+" x 6+"
Goal to prove implants increase dick size
Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"
Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"
Goal: 10+" x 6+"
Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
2435tjklAS wrote:I feel like adding my less knowledge and less experienced opinion that I did max inflate to as high as I ever could. It worked. It was probably not necessary, but it worked and nothing got broke, plus it's possible there's benefits for other exercises.
Yeah, but did it hurt like a son of a bitch?
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic erectile dysfunction following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, even spinal injections. Nada.
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Re: A QUESTION ABOUT CYCLING (AMS LGX)
fucked0ne wrote:2435tjklAS wrote:I feel like adding my less knowledge and less experienced opinion that I did max inflate to as high as I ever could. It worked. It was probably not necessary, but it worked and nothing got broke, plus it's possible there's benefits for other exercises.
Yeah, but did it hurt like a son of a bitch?
Heh, well, it definitely did at first back when I had never heard of doing things to your penis like cycling or using VEDs. But it's not like the next several months I was managing to deal with excruciating pain. Seems like you get used to it before long. I think that applies to pretty much everything humans can do.
40. AMS 700 LGX, 21+3. Nov. 2, 2021. Idiot who abused alcohol for brain injury, abused viagra for implant.
Goal to prove implants increase dick size
Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"
Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"
Goal: 10+" x 6+"
Goal to prove implants increase dick size
Pre-op dick size: 8.75" x 5.7"
Current: 9-9.5" x 5.5"
Goal: 10+" x 6+"
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