Greetings!

[trekker]

Hi - just wanted to say hello to everyone on the forum and offer a brief story of my experiences so far. I'm 64 and exercise a lot, so I think of myself as fit, but have experienced increasing lack of the vitality in the bedroom. Viagra had been working fine, but the effectiveness has decreased and I don't like the headaches, congestion and blue aural effects. I saw an advertisement in our local Milwaukee newspaper about a men's clinic that offered a new effective treatment option, and I booked an appointment. I did some research beforehand and found out something about the injectables, which I'd known nothing about. When I got to my appointment I had a brief exam by a "doctor" who, when I asked him about his specialty, turned out to have a PHD in education! He gave me an injection which surprising to me had no pain, and great results. This was very encouraging but soon after two sales guys came in and tag-teamed me to sign up for their program which was a $2500/year contract, saying that most likely after one year my ED would be cured. I asked for the supporting research documentation which they did not have. I asked if they had administered tri-mix and they said, no, it is a quad mix and tri-mix is no good. They also said that Viagra would cause me to go blind. I left and 4-1/2 hours later my erection finally went down (I was getting a bit nervous at that point).

Deciding to go to a real urologist I had an appointment through my healthcare institution and he said that he has few patients who want injections and recommended going to the local adult superstore and buy a pump. He also agreed to write a prescription for prostaglandin and said that my 4-1/2 hour experience was because tri-mix is too strong and he won't prescribe it. He said that the compounding pharmacy he uses charges $40 average per dose. Well, the pump experience certainly worked, but I didn't like it as much as the result from the earlier injection, so I made some calls to compounding pharmacies in the area and found one that would provide tri-mix 10 ml for $122 including shipping and syringes - obviously, a heck of a lot less than $40 per dose! The pharmacy said that it's stable in the freezer for 3 months, but I found studies that prove that to be 6 months. I emailed the urologist and asked whether he would provide a prescription and he agreed. So, the tri-mix is to arrive today and I'll try it out at the urologist office Friday.

Sorry for all the rambling, but I'm shocked at the misinformation and scams that are out there. I'm looking forward to a positive experience with the tri-mix, and will decide about an auto injector after a couple of uses. Thanks, and it's nice finding an environment where positive discussions can take place.

Darryl

[rlm1818]

Hi Darryl,

Sounds like you have a somewhat better urologist now, and hope it all works for you. I started my serious ED investigation many years ago with a Dr Peter Langenstroer at the Medical College of Wisconsin. He readily tried EDEX and then Trimix, and was familiar with various formulations of Trimix. He recommended MDCustomRX as a compounding pharmacy. When that didn't work very well for me, he recommended implants. I wasn't initially eager to go that route. When I tried to follow up with him a couple years ago to discuss implants further, I couldn't get an appointment with him since he was now only seeing oncology patients. However, there was another specialist on the MCOW staff that handled ED and sexual disfunction. I chose not to follow up with him at the time because he didn't appear to have much implant experience. But he might be much more familiar with trimix. If you don't get good reply from your current doc, you could try the staff at MCOW. And, I bet if you ask the compounding pharmacies what docs are regular prescribers of Trimix, you might get other ideas.

As of two years ago, the ED guru at the University of Wisconsin Medical School was Daniel Williams, in Madison at their urology clinic. He has a nice web site you can find via google.

Good luck to you.

[ohohiakane]

Darryl....

I am SO GLAD that you posted your "Men's Clinic" story. Since I first heard about the EXORBITANT prices they charge I have been trying to warn guys about them. I will be referring them to your post here from now on. Damn ripoff bastards !!!!

Thanks again, and a big WELCOME to Frank Talk.... and congratulations on your newly discovered injection therapy.

Bill

[trekker]

Hi - As a follow-up I received the tri-mix and took it to the urologist who wanted me to inject for the first time at his office. I used a compounding pharmacy in Deerfield, IL which ships to Wisconsin- total for 10ml including shipping and 40 syringes was $122. The urologist wanted to inject 1cc and I said - "what?! - everything I've read online is to start with .25 cc, 25 units." He said ok, and that was the amount injected. He sent me home, saying that he has nothing to counteract a potential 4+ hour erection and to go to the emergency room if that happens. The result was a hard erection which lasted 2:45 - if I'd had the whole 1cc syringe it probably would have lasted 12 hours! Next time I'll try 20 units - the cost, therefore, is under $2.50 per use, pretty cheap I'd say, and results far, far better than Viagra! One takeaway is stay away from "male clinics" and don't assume a urologist knows what he's talking about!
Thanks,
Darryl

[tomas1]

Darryl, I had a similar experience when my doc upped the strength of my tri-mix.
I use the mix it yourself kind and the package said to mix 1ml of saline to the tri-mix and inject .20 to .40ml. I did the math and decided that I wouldn't get more than several injections from each vial, and also it seemed much too strong a dosage. I took it upon myself to mix 2ml saline and inject .1ml.
This produced the desired effect and I bounce around between .08 to .16ml injections depending upon what seems to be working best at that particular time.
I guess my body hasn't stabilized on what dosage is the ideal one for me.
I think we have to take control of our medication as much as possible, and just use common sense.
I can't believe how much I've learned from the guys on Frank Talk throughout this.