Revisions and Size Loss

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fucked0ne
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Revisions and Size Loss

Postby fucked0ne » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:10 am

Wasn't sure if this has been addressed before, but do you lose some size with each revision? Could those who have gotten revisions please comment?

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40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic erectile dysfunction following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, even spinal injections. Nada.

Gt1956
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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:00 am

This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.

I have followed this discussion several times in the past.

I have not had a revision & I don't expect one. Mine has worked perfectly since day one. Also, I see posts by members that I know have an implant from my same surgeon. None of them have had a revision so far.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

Discovernew
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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Discovernew » Mon Nov 04, 2024 3:47 pm

Gt1956 wrote:This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.

I have followed this discussion several times in the past.

I have not had a revision & I don't expect one. Mine has worked perfectly since day one. Also, I see posts by members that I know have an implant from my same surgeon. None of them have had a revision so far.


Good to read you had a great result. I see in your signature you got 6' girth with the 21cm cx. What's your length? and did you get the same length post op than pre op?
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

fucked0ne
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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby fucked0ne » Mon Nov 04, 2024 4:47 pm

Gt1956 wrote:This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.


So, the longer implant, Gt1956, is mostly to offset any potential size loss?
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic erectile dysfunction following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Gt1956 » Mon Nov 04, 2024 5:16 pm

fucked0ne wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.

So, the longer implant, Gt1956, is mostly to offset any potential size loss?

No, the longer implant might be used because the penis now measures longer by some small difference. The issue is. Does 1cm more of implant add to the penis length or does some of it hide inside your body.

Far too many members don't understand that the same size implant in two different men can produce different penis sizes. The proximal measurement is very important to the final result.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 12:47 am

Discovernew wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.
I have followed this discussion several times in the past.
I have not had a revision & I don't expect one. Mine has worked perfectly since day one. Also, I see posts by members that I know have an implant from my same surgeon. None of them have had a revision so far.

Good to read you had a great result. I see in your signature you got 6' girth with the 21cm cx. What's your length? and did you get the same length post op than pre op?

I've posted my gains over the stretch test recently. My policy is that I do not talk sizes. It just confuses the issues in my opinion. The ONLY reason that my signature says 6" girth is because lots of men point to the Titan having larger cylinders. Thus they assume that Titan produces more girth. That is a false belief in my opinion & I proved it.

Btw, you have listed me as having a 6 foot girth! This is one of many reasons I won't participate in size questions. Guys can get the simplest things mixed up.

I see that you have an implant already. Why does my results matter to you now???
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Discovernew » Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:07 am

Gt1956 wrote:
Discovernew wrote:
Gt1956 wrote:This has been discussed many times in the past. The general consensus is that upon revision its common to get a slightly longer total installed length. Whether any actually length is gained is debatable. Due to the fact that the new found length can either be deeper in your body or be external. Generally its a combination of both. Thus you might end up with a marginally longer penis or no increase in length.
I have followed this discussion several times in the past.
I have not had a revision & I don't expect one. Mine has worked perfectly since day one. Also, I see posts by members that I know have an implant from my same surgeon. None of them have had a revision so far.

Good to read you had a great result. I see in your signature you got 6' girth with the 21cm cx. What's your length? and did you get the same length post op than pre op?

I've posted my gains over the stretch test recently. My policy is that I do not talk sizes. It just confuses the issues in my opinion. The ONLY reason that my signature says 6" girth is because lots of men point to the Titan having larger cylinders. Thus they assume that Titan produces more girth. That is a false belief in my opinion & I proved it.

Btw, you have listed me as having a 6 foot girth! This is one of many reasons I won't participate in size questions. Guys can get the simplest things mixed up.

I see that you have an implant already. Why does my results matter to you now???


6 foot girth lol, good catch :lol:.
I use the metric system, like 94% of the world, so I apologize if I confuse the single with double apostrophe :D Need to practice those ' and " haha.
I am in early stages of recovery myself, so I am curious what kind of sizes people are able to achieve ultimately with a given size of implant.

No worries about discussing size, I respect that. Glad that your recovery went well!
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Gt1956 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 1:42 pm

Discovernew, the real answer to what size you'll end up with is. You'll most likely end up very close to your previous size. All based on using a good dr. FT has changed a lot while I've been a member. Many of these implant questions were once considered common basic knowledge here. We didn't need to have the same topic weekly. I understand the inherent fear of losing size. That is part of ED. Not getting erections is basically losing size so the fear only starts then. I had a very long sex life with my wife. It might sound strange when I say that I never measured myself. But there was never any reason to measure until ED struck. I was able to hit her IUD string so once at the bottom, what does more length help? The IUD string hurt me but not her. So there was no desire for more length. She liked her cervix getting hit. I was able to do it. Her dr once said he was surprised she didn't have trouble getting pregnant because her cevix was deep. So that was all the length info I needed to know.

Do some searching on studies of penis sizes. The medical studies do not support many mens claims of their sizes. As I have said, I only stated my girth inorder to dispel the myth of one brand giving you more girth than the other. Member Rodsman is even girthier than me plus a lot longer. He also has a CX. Seldom will a week won't go by that someone won't post that a Titan has bigger cylinders. I'm convinced that the tunica is very difficult to be stretched beyond its natural size. So the cylinder size difference is almost of no value. Even now, 18+ months after my surgery. I inflate to the very max at least weekly & stay inflated for an hour or longer. I haven't seen any girth increase over what I was at 4 weeks. Right after surgery I was over 5.5 inches. But I never posted it on FT. About the LGX stretching. My dr is extremely close with BS. He told me that even thought BS doesn't advertise it. The CX does indeed stretch. But only around 3%.

Don't worry about your size. You can't change it by very much. But you can get undersized with an inexperienced dr. If you can feel your tips mid glans. You're sized right. To be exact. That was the first thing my drs nurse did at my first visit. She felt my head to verify the position of the tips. I think Rte's come in .5cm increments. So you shouldn't be sized more than .5cm short if your dr has any skill at all. Dr Eid is willing to trim a little off the head of a Titan. But if you think about it. That trick can only gain you less than .5cm.

Guys, work on your pumping skills. It will help you more than typing to ask about sizes.
68yo, HBP at 40, high triglycerides at 45. Phimosis at 57. Type 2 at 60. Dr. William Brant May 1, 2023 CX 21cm w/no rte's penoscrotal 6" girth @ 6 months

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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Hrc714 » Tue Nov 05, 2024 2:22 pm

2 cm longer implant with revision, but 4 cm shorter penis. I don’t get it, but those are the numbers.
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Implant July 2017, AMS 700, 24 X 12 MM, 2 x .5 CM extension.
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Revision March 2022, Titan 26 cm.

Discovernew
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Re: Revisions and Size Loss

Postby Discovernew » Tue Nov 05, 2024 3:11 pm

Hrc714 wrote:2 cm longer implant with revision, but 4 cm shorter penis. I don’t get it, but those are the numbers.


Wait, are you saying that your cylinders went from 24.5 to 26 (1.5cm extra in the revision), but your penis size became 4cm shorter after the revision? I'm so confused.
What was your bone pressed length before and after?

If that's what you are saying, what do you think could be the reason? did the doctor give any explanation for it?
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc


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