Hakky or Clavell?

The final frontier. Deciding when, if and how.



Anthony
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby Anthony » Wed Feb 15, 2023 11:24 pm

Jage64 wrote:This is a great reply from someone whom has dealt with both doctors. Good post, Anthony. Have you had the implant done? How is it? Your signature isn't clear on your current status.

Sig line amended. Not yet on implantation. Scheduled for 2nd May.
50 yo. MI on 5/30/16, 5 stents, 6'-215lbs active and daily exercise since. Type II Diabetes, 7.0 A1C. Scheduled for implantation 05/02/2023 with Hakky in ATL 3 years on Trimix, lead to PD 55°curvature. Current size: 6-1/2”bpl, 6-1/2” girth.

indeed
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby indeed » Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:14 am

Hey Brother

I didn't ask him but from what i read / seen on his youtube he doesn't use a drain. He also doesn't use a catheter which i like a lot.

Not 100% sure about the drain tho. Wish you the best of luck with your revision!

Cnidium wrote:Indeed, good to see you moving forward with Clavell.

Does anyone know if Clavell utilizes a drain immediately post op?
30 years old. Suspensory ligament repair with Dr. Ralph March 23.
20cm Titan OTR, no RTEs. Dr. Clavell - May 10, 23.

ThailandBound
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby ThailandBound » Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:39 am

Cnidium wrote:Indeed, good to see you moving forward with Clavell.

Does anyone know if Clavell utilizes a drain immediately post op?


He does not. Nor does he use a catheter. My recovery has been very comfortable.
Active, athletic 63 years old. Sexually, still 33 in my mind and spirit. Pills and injections all worked, until they didn’t. Diagnosed with veinous leakage in 2022. Coloplast Titan. 22 CM. No RTE. Peno-scrotal. Implanted 1/4/23. Dr. Clavell.

nuance
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby nuance » Mon Dec 02, 2024 8:57 pm

Does Hakky implant patients with AMS at all?

sambalamba
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby sambalamba » Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:22 pm

nuance wrote:Does Hakky implant patients with AMS at all?


Yes he does. But he is not in the AMS center of excellence. He is most definitely biased towards the Titan.
55 years. Using bimix 0.4 units. Works well but inconsistent and very inconvenient. Seriously considering an implant. 6.4 inches bone pressed length to tip, 5 inches girth base, 4.5 inches girth mid-shaft.

sambalamba
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby sambalamba » Mon Dec 02, 2024 9:29 pm

The biggest sticking point for me in trying to choose Clavell is his extra long activation protocol all the way up to six weeks. Otherwise I would choose him in a heartbeat. Eid/Hakky and probably many other docs have very early cycling protocol which I like as this gives higher chance for the implant breaking through the scar tissue. Although some docs say that scar capsule takes a year to form but I just don't find that convincing. I think the scar tissue will start forming as soon as the body starts to heal. And the longer you leave the penis frozen the higher the chance that scar tissue will start forming and it'll become difficult to break that tissue especially with an AMS implant with it's much softer material. But then again so many people on this forum have cycled at six weeks and seems to have done fine. If I chose a Titan this would be less of a concern to me because it's a much stronger material.
55 years. Using bimix 0.4 units. Works well but inconsistent and very inconvenient. Seriously considering an implant. 6.4 inches bone pressed length to tip, 5 inches girth base, 4.5 inches girth mid-shaft.

Jage64
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby Jage64 » Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:10 am

You're overthinking this. In my opinion the cycling regimen of sooner or later should make no difference.

PLENTY of men thrilled with early cycling.
PLENTY of men thrilled with later cycling.

If there was any sort of noticeable difference in outcome between the two theories there would be consensus among all the high volume implanters. There is not. I wouldn't base a decision on which surgeon on post operative care opinions.

Find a doctor you trust first, counsel with them about which implant is best for you, double check their reasoning and opinions with your own research. If you still have that trust in them, then trust that they know what's best for you based on their own expertise and experiences.

Then, get that bad boy installed and take your sex life back. You'll wonder why you waited so long.
2/22/23 AMS 700 CX 21cm + 1.5cm RTEs. was 58 yrs old, wife of 37 yrs. Penoscrotal. 100ml Conceal reservoir. Dr. Clavell. Pills failing and went right to implant. 2+ yrs post op: 7 3/4" x 5 7/8", now 60yrs old in 2025

LastHope
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby LastHope » Tue Dec 03, 2024 12:24 am

Jage64 wrote:You're overthinking this. In my opinion the cycling regimen of sooner or later should make no difference.

PLENTY of men thrilled with early cycling.
PLENTY of men thrilled with later cycling.

If there was any sort of noticeable difference in outcome between the two theories there would be consensus among all the high volume implanters. There is not. I wouldn't base a decision on which surgeon on post operative care opinions.

Find a doctor you trust first, counsel with them about which implant is best for you, double check their reasoning and opinions with your own research. If you still have that trust in them, then trust that they know what's best for you based on their own expertise and experiences.

Then, get that bad boy installed and take your sex life back. You'll wonder why you waited so long.


This is so well said. Sound advice.
40, Coloplast Genesis, 1/2025, Dr. Christine, UCAL

Sempiternal
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby Sempiternal » Tue Dec 03, 2024 4:20 am

sambalamba wrote:The biggest sticking point for me in trying to choose Clavell is his extra long activation protocol all the way up to six weeks. Otherwise I would choose him in a heartbeat. Eid/Hakky and probably many other docs have very early cycling protocol which I like as this gives higher chance for the implant breaking through the scar tissue. Although some docs say that scar capsule takes a year to form but I just don't find that convincing. I think the scar tissue will start forming as soon as the body starts to heal. And the longer you leave the penis frozen the higher the chance that scar tissue will start forming and it'll become difficult to break that tissue especially with an AMS implant with it's much softer material. But then again so many people on this forum have cycled at six weeks and seems to have done fine. If I chose a Titan this would be less of a concern to me because it's a much stronger material.


I couldn’t see myself cycling before 6 weeks. Too tender, swelling, adhesion, scar healing, blisters, etc. I’m glad I didn’t bathe or cycle before 6 weeks. Clavell left me 60% inflated for 6 weeks

nuance
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Re: Hakky or Clavell?

Postby nuance » Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:30 am

Sempiternal wrote:
sambalamba wrote:The biggest sticking point for me in trying to choose Clavell is his extra long activation protocol all the way up to six weeks. Otherwise I would choose him in a heartbeat. Eid/Hakky and probably many other docs have very early cycling protocol which I like as this gives higher chance for the implant breaking through the scar tissue. Although some docs say that scar capsule takes a year to form but I just don't find that convincing. I think the scar tissue will start forming as soon as the body starts to heal. And the longer you leave the penis frozen the higher the chance that scar tissue will start forming and it'll become difficult to break that tissue especially with an AMS implant with it's much softer material. But then again so many people on this forum have cycled at six weeks and seems to have done fine. If I chose a Titan this would be less of a concern to me because it's a much stronger material.


I couldn’t see myself cycling before 6 weeks. Too tender, swelling, adhesion, scar healing, blisters, etc. I’m glad I didn’t bathe or cycle before 6 weeks. Clavell left me 60% inflated for 6 weeks


I wonder how soon internal stitches heal. I'm assuming they should heal before we start cycling or the risk of improper healing is high?


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