The Everlasting IPP!

[fucked0ne]

What is the likelihood of there ever being an IPP guaranteed for life? Don't we have 21st-century materials now that could accomplish this? I'm sure some we'll say there's money to be made in revision surgeries, but the creator of the permanent IPP would obviously dominate the market... and it's not like people aren't always getting ED.

So now we have the Infla10, but I'm told that it's more of the same shit. What's the point? Does it even need to exist? Then, of course, there's the malleable, which is a pretty durable solution and can last decades;* but it does come with size loss.

Any thoughts?

I mean, come on! We can put a man on the moon, but we can't cure hair loss or create a lifelong IPP?



*I spoke to Hakky on the phone about this, and he said he had a patient recently who still had a malleable from 1978. The malleable was created in 1975.

[2435tjklAS]

If you get an IPP for life, that means 30 years from now you won't have the IPP that comes out in the 2050s.

[fucked0ne]

If you get an IPP for life, that means 30 years from now you won't have the IPP that comes out in the 2050s.

Who cares, I'll be dead!

[LastHope]

....*I spoke to Hakky on the phone about this, and he said he had a patient recently who still had a malleable from 1978. The malleable was created in 1975.

Fun fact:
"In 1975 Michael Small and Hernan Carrion in Minneapolis, Minnesota, laid the foundation for malleable implants of the modern era by creating the Small-Carrion semirigid device, which consisted of two sponge-filled semirigid silicone-covered rods for the corporeal bodies. Small and Carrion utilized the perineal approach for implantation to avoid previously seen complications with the dorsal approach. With this implant, the penis remained in a semi-rigid state and could be bent upwards when engaging in sexual activity."
https://urologichistory.museum/the-scop ... ted-states

[fucked0ne]

....*I spoke to Hakky on the phone about this, and he said he had a patient recently who still had a malleable from 1978. The malleable was created in 1975.

Fun fact:
"In 1975 Michael Small and Hernan Carrion in Minneapolis, Minnesota, laid the foundation for malleable implants of the modern era by creating the Small-Carrion semirigid device, which consisted of two sponge-filled semirigid silicone-covered rods for the corporeal bodies. Small and Carrion utilized the perineal approach for implantation to avoid previously seen complications with the dorsal approach. With this implant, the penis remained in a semi-rigid state and could be bent upwards when engaging in sexual activity."
https://urologichistory.museum/the-scop ... ted-states

Thanks for the bit of trivia, LastHope! Think there will ever be an everlasting IPP?

[LastHope]

....*I spoke to Hakky on the phone about this, and he said he had a patient recently who still had a malleable from 1978. The malleable was created in 1975.

Fun fact:
"In 1975 Michael Small and Hernan Carrion in Minneapolis, Minnesota, laid the foundation for malleable implants of the modern era by creating the Small-Carrion semirigid device, which consisted of two sponge-filled semirigid silicone-covered rods for the corporeal bodies. Small and Carrion utilized the perineal approach for implantation to avoid previously seen complications with the dorsal approach. With this implant, the penis remained in a semi-rigid state and could be bent upwards when engaging in sexual activity."
https://urologichistory.museum/the-scop ... ted-states

Thanks for the bit of trivia, LastHope! Think there will ever be an everlasting IPP?

Interesting thought, F1! Let's face it, our corporate boardrooms are focused on one goal: maximizing quarterly profits. Prioritizing reliability is not in their DNA until reliability issues start tanking those quarterly profits and executive bonuses.

On the flip side, focusing on reliability won't turn them into a blockbuster company since penile implants are far from being a mainstream, popular product by sales figures like our iPhones or MacBooks.

The only way I see them innovating reliable products is if the FDA threatens to pull them off the market and if Medicare and private insurance companies deny coverage on the grounds of poor reliability. These entities should make vigorous stress testing a requirement in their regulatory pathway The FDA is a revolving door these days. When the governing party changes, those who leave the FDA often go to work for pharma. If they make drug/device approval tough, it's like those folks are shooting themselves in the foot on lifetime earnings.

An everlasting IPP is just a dream. Designing a bulletproof hydraulic system using biocompatible materials is a huge leap in biomedical science. Perhaps a more realistic goal is to aim for an absolute minimum lifespan of 10 years and zero tolerance for any premature failures in the clinical trials for FDA approvals.

[fucked0ne]

Perhaps a more realistic goal is to aim for an absolute minimum lifespan of 10 years and zero tolerance for any premature failures in the clinical trials for FDA approvals.

I'm fine with this, a decade of guaranteed utility. What's the likelihood of something like this happening?

[Gt1956]

Fun fact:
"In 1975 Michael Small and Hernan Carrion in Minneapolis, Minnesota, laid the foundation for malleable implants of the modern era by creating the Small-Carrion semirigid device, which consisted of two sponge-filled semirigid silicone-covered rods for the corporeal bodies. Small and Carrion utilized the perineal approach for implantation to avoid previously seen complications with the dorsal approach. With this implant, the penis remained in a semi-rigid state and could be bent upwards when engaging in sexual activity."
https://urologichistory.museum/the-scop ... ted-states

Thanks for the bit of trivia, LastHope! Think there will ever be an everlasting IPP?

Interesting thought, F1! Let's face it, our corporate boardrooms are focused on one goal: maximizing quarterly profits. Prioritizing reliability is not in their DNA until reliability issues start tanking those quarterly profits and executive bonuses.
On the flip side, focusing on reliability won't turn them into a blockbuster company since penile implants are far from being a mainstream, popular product by sales figures like our iPhones or MacBooks.
The only way I see them innovating reliable products is if the FDA threatens to pull them off the market and if Medicare and private insurance companies deny coverage on the grounds of poor reliability. These entities should make vigorous stress testing a requirement in their regulatory pathway The FDA is a revolving door these days. When the governing party changes, those who leave the FDA often go to work for pharma. If they make drug/device approval tough, it's like those folks are shooting themselves in the foot on lifetime earnings.
An everlasting IPP is just a dream. Designing a bulletproof hydraulic system using biocompatible materials is a huge leap in biomedical science. Perhaps a more realistic goal is to aim for an absolute minimum lifespan of 10 years and zero tolerance for any premature failures in the clinical trials for FDA approvals.

I think we need to look at other implantable devices to see how the industry, healthcare & goverment will react. Seeing a few people with artificial heart valves that were replaced isn't a good sign. My SIL wore out her hip implants. I worked with a guy whose first knee worked perfectly. His FIFTH implant on his other leg finally worked. Pacemakers get replaced regularly. Lets not even talk about breast implants. I wouldn't hold out much hope for help from Medicare, FDA or insurance companies.

Btw, its been said before. There are a lot of prefectly good working IPP's in long term storage in cemeteries. No telling how much longer they would of kept working if the owner hadn't died.

[LastHope]

Thanks for the bit of trivia, LastHope! Think there will ever be an everlasting IPP?

Interesting thought, F1! Let's face it, our corporate boardrooms are focused on one goal: maximizing quarterly profits. Prioritizing reliability is not in their DNA until reliability issues start tanking those quarterly profits and executive bonuses.
On the flip side, focusing on reliability won't turn them into a blockbuster company since penile implants are far from being a mainstream, popular product by sales figures like our iPhones or MacBooks.
The only way I see them innovating reliable products is if the FDA threatens to pull them off the market and if Medicare and private insurance companies deny coverage on the grounds of poor reliability. These entities should make vigorous stress testing a requirement in their regulatory pathway The FDA is a revolving door these days. When the governing party changes, those who leave the FDA often go to work for pharma. If they make drug/device approval tough, it's like those folks are shooting themselves in the foot on lifetime earnings.
An everlasting IPP is just a dream. Designing a bulletproof hydraulic system using biocompatible materials is a huge leap in biomedical science. Perhaps a more realistic goal is to aim for an absolute minimum lifespan of 10 years and zero tolerance for any premature failures in the clinical trials for FDA approvals.

I think we need to look at other implantable devices to see how the industry, healthcare & goverment will react. Seeing a few people with artificial heart valves that were replaced isn't a good sign. My SIL wore out her hip implants. I worked with a guy whose first knee worked perfectly. His FIFTH implant on his other leg finally worked. Pacemakers get replaced regularly. Lets not even talk about breast implants. I wouldn't hold out much hope for help from Medicare, FDA or insurance companies.

Btw, its been said before. There are a lot of prefectly good working IPP's in long term storage in cemeteries. No telling how much longer they would of kept working if the owner hadn't died.

The good thing about heart valves, hip/knee implants, and pacemakers is that private insurance coverage is generally solid since they fall under the umbrella of medically necessary procedures for survival. However, with IPPs, if someone isn’t eligible for Medicare and is stuck with a job that offers Aetna or Cigna, getting coverage can be a significant challenge. Paying $22K out of pocket for every premature breakdown is far from ideal and doesn’t inspire peace of mind. It feels like you’re hoping Plan A works, but deep down, you know there’s no Plan B...it’s more psychological than anything else.

[Nixtex]

Likely not going to happen in our lifetime, but maybe a few hundred years from now!