implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

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Fordawin
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implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Fordawin » Sun Dec 15, 2024 8:12 am

so many post on here talk about implant failure... that is scary. how long do the realistically last? i get the rare exceptions... is there a device that just last longer?
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby RMJ9224 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:15 am

malleables quiet simply. No moving parts, very very rare they ever failure, no need to revisions and a much lower infection rate from what i understand.

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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby LastHope » Sun Dec 15, 2024 11:21 am

Some tips that I've learned from members here:
1) Choose the highest volume surgeon you can afford.
2) Don't hesitate to fly to a different location to get this done if you don't have a high-volume surgeon nearby.
3) Appropriate sizing and quality of installation matters.

One study suggests that 52% of inflatable implants continue to function into their 20th year. The common understanding is that they are super busy having sex and don't have time or need to log in to FranTalk to share that. This is totally understandable, most people don't login to car forums to post that their car runs with no issues.

The study is based on observational findings of forms filled by surgical centers and not a controlled study, so take these stats with a grain of salt.

7% of inflatable implants fail within 1 year
9% of inflatable implants fail within 3 years
13% of inflatable implants fail within 5 years
23% of inflatable implants fail within 10 years
36% of inflatable implants fail within 15 years
48% of inflatable implants fail within 20 years

Source:
Miller LE, Khera M, Bhattacharyya S, Patel M, Nitschelm K, Burnett AL.

Long-Term Survival Rates of Inflatable Penile Prostheses: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.

Urology. 2022 Aug;166:6-10. doi: 10.1016/j.urology.2022.03.026. Epub 2022 Apr 11. PMID: 35421510.

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SB, MP, and KN report employment with Boston Scientific.
AB and MK disclose no conflicts of interest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35421510/
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Fordawin » Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:13 pm

great info... seems like 7% 1st year is way too high... they ned some new QA standards
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Old Guy » Sun Dec 15, 2024 12:24 pm

No one can tell you how long an implant will last. As mentioned, the guys who have had an implant for years are typically not here, they are off using it. Had mine for 5 years with no problems except for the rough healing. An implant is a wonderful option to regain erections.
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Rider1400 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:08 pm

On the Coloplast website they state that 75% of all implants are still functioning at 10 years. Not too bad odds. Eid states in one of his videos that in the thousands of implants he’s done and I’m guessing hundreds of revisions he said he’s only saw one actual cylinder fail. It’s generally the tubing and then the pump that fails in that order. I agree with most that this is an implant board that focuses on newly implanted and soon to be implanted that have all the questions.There’s much less of us that’s been implanted for several years still on here regularly. Most that have no issues just move on and stop visiting this site. I enjoy the reads and enjoy sharing my experiences so will continue here.
59 years old ED started mid 40s pills failed after 10 years. Injections works but diminishing results with pain. Implanted 5-22 Baylor,Scott,and White Dallas.Dr Michael Wierschem, infrapubic Coloplast with Classic pump 20cm and 1cm RTE. Going strong

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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby frank66665 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:27 pm

LastHope wrote:Some tips that I've learned from members here:
1) Choose the highest volume surgeon you can afford.
2) Don't hesitate to fly to a different location to get this done if you don't have a high-volume surgeon nearby.
3) Appropriate sizing and quality of installation matters.

One study suggests that 52% of inflatable implants continue to function into their 20th year. The common understanding is that they are super busy having sex and don't have time or need to log in to FranTalk to share that. This is totally understandable, most people don't login to car forums to post that their car runs with no issues.

The study is based on observational findings of forms filled by surgical centers and not a controlled study, so take these stats with a grain of salt.

7% of inflatable implants fail within 1 year
9% of inflatable implants fail within 3 years
13% of inflatable implants fail within 5 years
23% of inflatable implants fail within 10 years
36% of inflatable implants fail within 15 years
48% of inflatable implants fail within 20 years

Source:
Miller LE, Khera M, Bhattacharyya S, Patel M, Nitschelm K, Burnett AL.

Long-Term Survival Rates of Inflatable Penile Prostheses: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.

Urology. 2022 Aug;166:6-10. doi: 10.1016/j.urology.2022.03.026. Epub 2022 Apr 11. PMID: 35421510.

Conflict of interest statement
CONFLICT OF INTEREST
LM discloses professional relationships with Boston Scientific.
SB, MP, and KN report employment with Boston Scientific.
AB and MK disclose no conflicts of interest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35421510/

whoever made this statistic most likely didn't go to school, mathematics is not an opinion, on balance we are at 136%, there is an exponential cheating on these statistics
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Parmenides » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:33 pm

Hello,
I've had the Titan Coloplast prosthesis for fifteen years, but I think it will fail at any moment.
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby Hope84 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:02 pm

frank66665 wrote:
LastHope wrote:Some tips that I've learned from members here:
1) Choose the highest volume surgeon you can afford.
2) Don't hesitate to fly to a different location to get this done if you don't have a high-volume surgeon nearby.
3) Appropriate sizing and quality of installation matters.

One study suggests that 52% of inflatable implants continue to function into their 20th year. The common understanding is that they are super busy having sex and don't have time or need to log in to FranTalk to share that. This is totally understandable, most people don't login to car forums to post that their car runs with no issues.

The study is based on observational findings of forms filled by surgical centers and not a controlled study, so take these stats with a grain of salt.

7% of inflatable implants fail within 1 year
9% of inflatable implants fail within 3 years
13% of inflatable implants fail within 5 years
23% of inflatable implants fail within 10 years
36% of inflatable implants fail within 15 years
48% of inflatable implants fail within 20 years

Source:
Miller LE, Khera M, Bhattacharyya S, Patel M, Nitschelm K, Burnett AL.

Long-Term Survival Rates of Inflatable Penile Prostheses: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.

Urology. 2022 Aug;166:6-10. doi: 10.1016/j.urology.2022.03.026. Epub 2022 Apr 11. PMID: 35421510.

Conflict of interest statement
CONFLICT OF INTEREST
LM discloses professional relationships with Boston Scientific.
SB, MP, and KN report employment with Boston Scientific.
AB and MK disclose no conflicts of interest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35421510/

whoever made this statistic most likely didn't go to school, mathematics is not an opinion, on balance we are at 136%, there is an exponential cheating on these statistics



Seems like you are the one who did not go to school. These are cumulative failure rates, you can’t add them up and expect a total of 100%. The way to look at it is that roughly half (48%) of implants fail within 20 years (i.e. anytime between day one and 20 years after surgery), and out of those, roughly half (23%/48%) have failed within 10 years.
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Re: implant failure rate - how long do they really last?

Postby frank66665 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 4:50 pm

Hope84 wrote:
frank66665 wrote:
LastHope wrote:Some tips that I've learned from members here:
1) Choose the highest volume surgeon you can afford.
2) Don't hesitate to fly to a different location to get this done if you don't have a high-volume surgeon nearby.
3) Appropriate sizing and quality of installation matters.

One study suggests that 52% of inflatable implants continue to function into their 20th year. The common understanding is that they are super busy having sex and don't have time or need to log in to FranTalk to share that. This is totally understandable, most people don't login to car forums to post that their car runs with no issues.

The study is based on observational findings of forms filled by surgical centers and not a controlled study, so take these stats with a grain of salt.

7% of inflatable implants fail within 1 year
9% of inflatable implants fail within 3 years
13% of inflatable implants fail within 5 years
23% of inflatable implants fail within 10 years
36% of inflatable implants fail within 15 years
48% of inflatable implants fail within 20 years

Source:
Miller LE, Khera M, Bhattacharyya S, Patel M, Nitschelm K, Burnett AL.

Long-Term Survival Rates of Inflatable Penile Prostheses: Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis.

Urology. 2022 Aug;166:6-10. doi: 10.1016/j.urology.2022.03.026. Epub 2022 Apr 11. PMID: 35421510.

Conflict of interest statement
CONFLICT OF INTEREST
LM discloses professional relationships with Boston Scientific.
SB, MP, and KN report employment with Boston Scientific.
AB and MK disclose no conflicts of interest.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35421510/

whoever made this statistic most likely didn't go to school, mathematics is not an opinion, on balance we are at 136%, there is an exponential cheating on these statistics



Seems like you are the one who did not go to school. These are cumulative failure rates, you can’t add them up and expect a total of 100%. The way to look at it is that roughly half (48%) of implants fail within 20 years (i.e. anytime between day one and 20 years after surgery), and out of those, roughly half (23%/48%) have failed within 10 years.

this would be a statistic in your way, or as you interpret it, this is not how statistics are done, statistics must be clear and not interpretative, we are seeing on this forum how many arrive at 10 years, at 20 they don't exist, and don't tell me that they are all dead, now we can no longer count those that break in the first 5 years, not to mention those who have done 4 overhauls in 4 years, removing the waiting gaps they have done 4 overhauls in 2/3 years, if you still believe in the Epiphany, you are perfectly entitled to believe it
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