Lifespan of Inflatable Implants today?

[Fidelio]

I struggle to believe this is true as I only ever see Franktalkers needing revisions and replacements much earlier than 10 years, let alone at 15 or 20 years.

It's just that this forum is mostly about implant problems. Guy feels like his pumping isn't inflating the cylinders, googles that, lands here. Then there are these researching implants and of course guys dabbling in various ED treatments. 17366 members in total, 5479 of whom posted at least once. Let's say 2000 of them actually have an implant. Now google how many bionics there are worldwide and you get to the conclusion your opinion now is being shaped by (probably) not even 1% of total bionic population. Where's the remaining 99%? Prolly fucking.

Is anyone out there with an implant currently running for 10+ years?

Today's topic:
https://www.franktalk.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=25829

Can anyone shed any light or verify these new lifespan statements? 15-20 years would be great, there's no doubting that!

"A realistic and practical expectation might lie between 5-10 years." like LastHope said or 8-12 years from what I gathered reading or listening to the words of some great surgeons.

[LastHope]

If you prefer in years:
All:
Median 3.75 years (IQR 1.83-6.58 years)

Boston Scientific:
Median 3.58 years (IQR 1.67-8.25 years)

Coloplast:
Median 4.83 years (IQR 3.42-6.00 years)

Yeah, this sounds WAY more realistic than 15-20 years. I would think frequency of use would also be a factor, with more frequent usage accelerating wear and tear. My plan is to schedule a malleable revision with Hakky for the Fall, putting me at a little over a year. I just don't want to have to deal with a break and just don't have much faith in the integrity of the thing. If the median is about 3 1/2 years, I should hopefully be able to make it to the Fall.

My advice to people going forward will be that if you are a very horny person, get a malleable. If you have sex/masturbate infrequently, by all means, inflatable. Unfortunately, I'm in the former camp.

Also, LastHope:

I was instructed by Hakky to use a VED for ten minutes a day for two months before a scheduled surgical date. How should one use a VED with the implant? Should you pump up first, or use it without pumping? Yes, I should have asked Hakky this, but it slipped my mind at the time of our consult.

Hey F1, well stated. That's an interesting question! Since one of the goals is to enhance tissue oxygenation, tissue nutrition and tissue elasticity by maximizing corporal blood volume, it seems more logical to use the VED without inflation. And of course, please keep us posted on Dr. Hakky's opinion when you schedule your surgery. I think asking the surgery scheduler or nurse over the phone will yield a definitive response from Dr. Hakky's team!

[adkd124]

I don't get how to calculate the time frame either. But I deduct from the second screenshot That there is an overall chance of 14.8% that you need revision surgery because of a mechanical failure. That's a bit worse than I thought it would be. I wish there was more data about the Rigicon Infla10 AX. I'm leaning towards it.

Rigicon seems a bit more promising tbh. Hope they take over the market and force the other companies to do better.

And Clavell said in a podcast that he doesnt believe the numbers in those studies. 8-15 years is what you can expect he said.

For younger/active guys probably a bit less

Can you give the link on this podcast?

[SwedishDave]

Its on youtube with rena malik, dont know which one of then sorry

[Benjohn]

Thanks all for your replies. Very informative, some interesting studies and certainly a wide range of implant lifespans.

[LastHope]

Dr. Malik's podcast with Dr. Clavell - fast forward to 32:43

https://youtu.be/XG5hwZqr5Ls?si=R3w0hszFP5xdCuPq

[adkd124]

Dr. Malik's podcast with Dr. Clavell - fast forward to 32:43

https://youtu.be/XG5hwZqr5Ls?si=R3w0hszFP5xdCuPq

Thanks

[fucked0ne]

I don't get how to calculate the time frame either. But I deduct from the second screenshot That there is an overall chance of 14.8% that you need revision surgery because of a mechanical failure. That's a bit worse than I thought it would be. I wish there was more data about the Rigicon Infla10 AX. I'm leaning towards it.

Rigicon seems a bit more promising tbh. Hope they take over the market and force the other companies to do better.

And Clavell said in a podcast that he doesnt believe the numbers in those studies. 8-15 years is what you can expect he said.

For younger/active guys probably a bit less

What needs to be understood is that Clavell is more than a doctor--he's a salesman trying to peddle his services, so it is in his specific interest to tout the greater longevity of the IPP. And not just Clavell, but all high-volume implant surgeons.

"For younger/active guys probably a bit less"

Does he clarify what he means by this? I said somewhere above that the more active you are, the more likely the implant to crap out, probably by about 3 1/2 years like the above study suggests.

So, I think a good question is, as a younger, sexually active guy, do you really want to have to start rationing sexual experience, including something so uncomplicated as masturbation? This is something I've currently been giving a lot of thought to.

[LastHope]

At 33, 33.21 and 35.08, there seems to be some video editing (clipping) going on. So this answer may not be a fully unscripted version.