Tissues thinning over time

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fucked0ne
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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:37 pm

ViaSwiss wrote:
sambalamba wrote:I had discussed this with Hakky and he had said that tissue thinning is expected to happen over time. I only discussed the thinning of remaining corporal tissue and not the glans. To enhance tissue survivability he said to keep cylinders fully deflated when not in use.

My personal thinking is regular use of a VED to bring blood flow would reduce this thinning process.

Not sure if CX or Titan causes more thinning or not. I would think glans thinning would be the same since longitudinal pressure would be the same with both implants. Also Eid always prefers Titan. If Titan causes significant more thinning he would have a lot more unhappy customers which doesn't make business sense.

What do you guys think?


I had the same thoughts as Sambalamba.

Also, perhaps using a red light panel on your dick a few times a week could be helpful, top and underside... red light at certain wavelengths (630-680nm) has been proven to increase collagen production. I would consider taking collagen powder as well daily.

I have not experienced this issue, I am sorry that you are buddy.

I do keep mine very pretty deflated when not in use..


Yeah, I mentioned collagen somewhere as well. VED is a good suggestion. I'm not really sure why he's experiencing engorgement issues around the glans since that blood supply comes from underneath. This makes me think that it might not have anything to do with the implant at all, but an underlying issue compacted by the implant.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:39 pm

wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:I got my first implant in 2021, almost 4 years ago, and the tissues in my shaft and glans seem to have thinned out drastically in that time. I feel way more implant material and much less penis tissue in the shaft than in the first year, and in the glans when flacid I touch and feel almost only the hard implant tips. Really don't feel much glans tissue when flacid. Has anyone else experienced this atrophy over several years?


wolfpacker,

What about when engorged? I would think that that's what's most important anyway.

While it wouldn't help with the glans (would it?), what about dermal filler?


I still get engorgement but it's definitely less full and raging than in the first 1-2 years.

I'm concerned that HA (temporary) filler would restrict blood flow further since I don't think that product vascularizes. I'm actually more interested in FFT fat transfer into the penis, as at least then it would have blood flow in the fat cells. Also interested in dermal grafting for girth enhancement, basically taking the collagen mesh they apply to skin grafts for burn victims and wrapping that around the penis inside to grow additional tissue and increase girth. A couple surgeons offer this.


Good point about HA. Let me ask you this: do you have any underlying health issues, like diabetes or some kind of metabolic disorder? Are you overweight? Is your diet poor? Blood pressure issues? Etc.?
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby wolfpacker » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:30 pm

fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker,

What about when engorged? I would think that that's what's most important anyway.

While it wouldn't help with the glans (would it?), what about dermal filler?


I still get engorgement but it's definitely less full and raging than in the first 1-2 years.

I'm concerned that HA (temporary) filler would restrict blood flow further since I don't think that product vascularizes. I'm actually more interested in FFT fat transfer into the penis, as at least then it would have blood flow in the fat cells. Also interested in dermal grafting for girth enhancement, basically taking the collagen mesh they apply to skin grafts for burn victims and wrapping that around the penis inside to grow additional tissue and increase girth. A couple surgeons offer this.


Good point about HA. Let me ask you this: do you have any underlying health issues, like diabetes or some kind of metabolic disorder? Are you overweight? Is your diet poor? Blood pressure issues? Etc.?


No I'm active duty military and no other health issues
Early 30s with ED from jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

Aug 2024 revision to AMS CX 24cm + 2rte

My journal: viewtopic.php?t=17202

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Jan 21, 2025 7:34 pm

wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
I still get engorgement but it's definitely less full and raging than in the first 1-2 years.

I'm concerned that HA (temporary) filler would restrict blood flow further since I don't think that product vascularizes. I'm actually more interested in FFT fat transfer into the penis, as at least then it would have blood flow in the fat cells. Also interested in dermal grafting for girth enhancement, basically taking the collagen mesh they apply to skin grafts for burn victims and wrapping that around the penis inside to grow additional tissue and increase girth. A couple surgeons offer this.


Good point about HA. Let me ask you this: do you have any underlying health issues, like diabetes or some kind of metabolic disorder? Are you overweight? Is your diet poor? Blood pressure issues? Etc.?


No I'm active duty military and no other health issues


Hmm..

Here's a no-brainer, so I'm sure you've done this already. Have you tried contacting Dr. Eid? If so, what did he say? I must admit, you now have me concerned because I'm not the girthiest guy. Around when did you start to notice the thinning?
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby wolfpacker » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:09 pm

fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
Good point about HA. Let me ask you this: do you have any underlying health issues, like diabetes or some kind of metabolic disorder? Are you overweight? Is your diet poor? Blood pressure issues? Etc.?


No I'm active duty military and no other health issues


Hmm..

Here's a no-brainer, so I'm sure you've done this already. Have you tried contacting Dr. Eid? If so, what did he say? I must admit, you now have me concerned because I'm not the girthiest guy. Around when did you start to notice the thinning?


I have not contacted him, mostly because I believe I already know his position. He has written online on this tissue thinning issue before, and he told me many times to always keep the inflant absolutely as much deflated as possible when not in use to reduce the pressure atrophy of natural tissue.

I'd say it started to kick in after about 2 years ish
Early 30s with ED from jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

Aug 2024 revision to AMS CX 24cm + 2rte

My journal: viewtopic.php?t=17202

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:22 pm

wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
No I'm active duty military and no other health issues


Hmm..

Here's a no-brainer, so I'm sure you've done this already. Have you tried contacting Dr. Eid? If so, what did he say? I must admit, you now have me concerned because I'm not the girthiest guy. Around when did you start to notice the thinning?


I have not contacted him, mostly because I believe I already know his position. He has written online on this tissue thinning issue before, and he told me many times to always keep the inflant absolutely as much deflated as possible when not in use to reduce the pressure atrophy of natural tissue.

I'd say it started to kick in after about 2 years ish


You know, I would still contact him because he is a urologist, and if you've been deflating completely, then it would appear unlikely that your atrophy is due to the implant. How does one get ED from jelquing? Does it cause fibrosis or impaired blood flow? Did Eid do a doppler before the procedure?
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby LastHope » Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:30 am

wolfpacker wrote:No I'm active duty military and no other health issues


Any radiation exposure, wolfpacker?
40, Coloplast Genesis, 1/2025, Dr. Christine, UCAL

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby wolfpacker » Wed Jan 22, 2025 7:47 pm

fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
Hmm..

Here's a no-brainer, so I'm sure you've done this already. Have you tried contacting Dr. Eid? If so, what did he say? I must admit, you now have me concerned because I'm not the girthiest guy. Around when did you start to notice the thinning?


I have not contacted him, mostly because I believe I already know his position. He has written online on this tissue thinning issue before, and he told me many times to always keep the inflant absolutely as much deflated as possible when not in use to reduce the pressure atrophy of natural tissue.

I'd say it started to kick in after about 2 years ish


You know, I would still contact him because he is a urologist, and if you've been deflating completely, then it would appear unlikely that your atrophy is due to the implant. How does one get ED from jelquing? Does it cause fibrosis or impaired blood flow? Did Eid do a doppler before the procedure?


Jelqing causes scar tissue which prevents the penis from properly pinching off the outflow of blood, resulting in venous leak

He did do a Doppler yeah
Early 30s with ED from jelqing. Implant by Dr Eid on 24 June 2021 with a Titan 24cm with +1cm RTE on one side and -1cm cut off on the other side

Aug 2024 revision to AMS CX 24cm + 2rte

My journal: viewtopic.php?t=17202

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby fucked0ne » Wed Jan 22, 2025 8:43 pm

wolfpacker wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
wolfpacker wrote:
I have not contacted him, mostly because I believe I already know his position. He has written online on this tissue thinning issue before, and he told me many times to always keep the inflant absolutely as much deflated as possible when not in use to reduce the pressure atrophy of natural tissue.

I'd say it started to kick in after about 2 years ish


You know, I would still contact him because he is a urologist, and if you've been deflating completely, then it would appear unlikely that your atrophy is due to the implant. How does one get ED from jelquing? Does it cause fibrosis or impaired blood flow? Did Eid do a doppler before the procedure?


Jelqing causes scar tissue which prevents the penis from properly pinching off the outflow of blood, resulting in venous leak

He did do a Doppler yeah


Okay. So, personally, I would contact him, tell him what's up, and ask if that could be a contributing factor, if not the factor. Maybe he's encountered this before and knows how it can be ameliorated. This would seem to be your best bet, because nobody in this thread seems to know how to approach your situation; it's all just been conjecture.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: Tissues thinning over time

Postby SwedishDave » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:38 pm

So only 2 people actually noticing their tissue thinning over time? This is such a strange phenomenon and i deeply feel for the ones who experience it. Once you get an implant you’ve been through enough.

I feel like this issue should be inevstigated further if Eid says its an issue. Maybe they could make the tips out of soft silicone instead of hard for example. And i still have the theory that the titan is worse for this type of issue. Maybe the lgx that shrinks a whole lot during flaccid is much kinder on the tissues. Just guesswork though.
31 YO,

Diffuse tunica fibrosis from stretching/jelqing.
Several small circumferential fibrosises. Sex and masturbation makes it worse.

Before L: 6.8 G: 5.4
Current L: 6.3 G: 4.8


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