How long does the average inflatable implant last?

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newbiehere23
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How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby newbiehere23 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:20 pm

From what I’ve read, it says 5-7 years. This seems a bit short but wanted to be clear on what what the data says. I’m in my early 30s with hard flaccid and am really looking into getting one

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby Implant2025 » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:47 pm

That's the problem: it depends on who you ask.

If you ask AMS:
According to a clinical review of over 55,000 implants, the 7 year mechanical failure free survival rate for the AMS 700 was 94.1% (p<0.0001).8
In a series spanning two decades of 2,384 first time penile implants, 10 and 15 year revision-free survival for all reasons was 68.5% and 59.7% respectively. The 10 and 15 year estimates for freedom from mechanical breakage was 79.4% and 71.2% respectively. Enhanced models of the implants did better. In 2001, the addition of parylene coating increased the AMS 700 cylinder 3 year mechanical survival from 88.4% to 97.9% (p=0.0002). The study concluded that there is a 60% chance a first time implant would survive 15 or more years without revision or extraction.

If you ask NIH National Library of Medicine:
A Comparison Between AMS 700 and Coloplast Titan: A Systematic Literature Review
The Coloplast device demonstrated slightly greater resistance to the stimulated forces of penetration and gravity. Coloplast implants coated with vancomycin/gentamicin had the highest infection rate followed by the AMS penile prosthesis and the rifampin/gentamicin coating had the lowest infection rate. Prosthesis durability and survival were similar between both brands. Overall satisfaction was high but comparisons are inconsistent.
The literature is inconclusive about which device is superior.

Yet a lot of posters on this website have had much shorter periods between revisions. Maybe because the longterm success stories aren't posting on this website? Also consider the age of the implant: if someone gets an implant at age 75 and dies at age 80, how long should statisticians says that implant survived: 5 years? 15 years?
GM(73) ED for past 10 years. Before: 6.0"L, 5.5"G. After (30 days): 5.5"L, 5.25"G. AMS CX MS pump 18cm/17.5cm on 1/29/25 by Dr Clavell in Houston.

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fucked0ne
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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Feb 18, 2025 3:09 pm

newbiehere23 wrote:From what I’ve read, it says 5-7 years. This seems a bit short but wanted to be clear on what what the data says. I’m in my early 30s with hard flaccid and am really looking into getting one


I would DM the user "LastHope." He has a malleable but seems to be really up on the literature and figures. He can probably give you a more conclusive answer... but I'm pretty sure he posted a study on this board which showed that the average life of an IPP was more like six years.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby ready2go » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:10 pm

newbiehere23 wrote:From what I’ve read, it says 5-7 years. This seems a bit short but wanted to be clear on what what the data says. I’m in my early 30s with hard flaccid and am really looking into getting one


the member by the name the driver , had 4 fail in 3 years if i remember right . he went to a malleable after the 4th fail and his wife is putting him through the trials non stop with a smile on her face
American , retired in the philippines .
tactra malleable 13 mm ,in new delhi India . on april 2024

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby Implant2025 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 5:45 pm

Remember that there are thousands of guys with implants out there. The ones who have no issues are unlikely to be posting here.

Once you’ve narrowed down your choice of surgeons, ask them for their opinion. If they prefer one brand over another, I’d look further for a completely unbiased opinion. And if someone here on FT quotes x number of years reliability, ask them for their source.
GM(73) ED for past 10 years. Before: 6.0"L, 5.5"G. After (30 days): 5.5"L, 5.25"G. AMS CX MS pump 18cm/17.5cm on 1/29/25 by Dr Clavell in Houston.

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:02 pm

ready2go wrote:
newbiehere23 wrote:From what I’ve read, it says 5-7 years. This seems a bit short but wanted to be clear on what what the data says. I’m in my early 30s with hard flaccid and am really looking into getting one


the member by the name the driver , had 4 fail in 3 years if i remember right . he went to a malleable after the 4th fail and his wife is putting him through the trials non stop with a smile on her face


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have four Titans before switching to the Genesis?

I know they claim there's no difference between Coloplast and AMS, but I've never heard of anyone having experienced four AMS breaks in four years. There was a poster on one of Perito's Youtube videos who claimed he had a Titan failure rate similar to thedriver. My unscientific opinion is that the AMS may be slightly better; it doesn't seem to have the tubing issue the Titan has and which Coloplast refuses to fix.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby Implant2025 » Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:46 pm

fucked0ne wrote:My unscientific opinion is that the AMS may be slightly better; it doesn't seem to have the tubing issue the Titan has and which Coloplast refuses to fix.


I’ve heard the weak point with Coloplast seems to be leakage of cylinders weakened by dog ears, especially in longer cylinders. But I think I was told by one of the surgeons i interviewed that AMS pumps fail more often than Coloplast, which is why AMS came out with the Tenacio pump.
GM(73) ED for past 10 years. Before: 6.0"L, 5.5"G. After (30 days): 5.5"L, 5.25"G. AMS CX MS pump 18cm/17.5cm on 1/29/25 by Dr Clavell in Houston.

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby ready2go » Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:57 pm

fucked0ne wrote:
ready2go wrote:
newbiehere23 wrote:From what I’ve read, it says 5-7 years. This seems a bit short but wanted to be clear on what what the data says. I’m in my early 30s with hard flaccid and am really looking into getting one


the member by the name the driver , had 4 fail in 3 years if i remember right . he went to a malleable after the 4th fail and his wife is putting him through the trials non stop with a smile on her face


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have four Titans before switching to the Genesis?

I know they claim there's no difference between Coloplast and AMS, but I've never heard of anyone having experienced four AMS breaks in four years. There was a poster on one of Perito's Youtube videos who claimed he had a Titan failure rate similar to thedriver. My unscientific opinion is that the AMS may be slightly better; it doesn't seem to have the tubing issue the Titan has and which Coloplast refuses to fix.



from member , thedrivers signature .....After 4 Titan IPP failures within 4 years I finally wised up and went to the Malleable Genesis 23cm- 13mm implanted 2-1-24 and no regrets so far.
For those that are asking, I'm going to change the wifeys avatar weekly.
American , retired in the philippines .
tactra malleable 13 mm ,in new delhi India . on april 2024

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:06 pm

ready2go wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:
ready2go wrote:
the member by the name the driver , had 4 fail in 3 years if i remember right . he went to a malleable after the 4th fail and his wife is putting him through the trials non stop with a smile on her face


Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he have four Titans before switching to the Genesis?

I know they claim there's no difference between Coloplast and AMS, but I've never heard of anyone having experienced four AMS breaks in four years. There was a poster on one of Perito's Youtube videos who claimed he had a Titan failure rate similar to thedriver. My unscientific opinion is that the AMS may be slightly better; it doesn't seem to have the tubing issue the Titan has and which Coloplast refuses to fix.



from member , thedrivers signature .....After 4 Titan IPP failures within 4 years I finally wised up and went to the Malleable Genesis 23cm- 13mm implanted 2-1-24 and no regrets so far.
For those that are asking, I'm going to change the wifeys avatar weekly.


Thanks, ready2go! Yeah, that's what I thought.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.

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Re: How long does the average inflatable implant last?

Postby fucked0ne » Tue Feb 18, 2025 10:08 pm

Implant2025 wrote:
fucked0ne wrote:My unscientific opinion is that the AMS may be slightly better; it doesn't seem to have the tubing issue the Titan has and which Coloplast refuses to fix.


I’ve heard the weak point with Coloplast seems to be leakage of cylinders weakened by dog ears, especially in longer cylinders. But I think I was told by one of the surgeons i interviewed that AMS pumps fail more often than Coloplast, which is why AMS came out with the Tenacio pump.


I knew that about the AMS; I'm aware of the "dog ears" with the Titan, but didn't know it was a point of failure. That must then be added along with its tubing issues, which I know others have mentioned here. So, that's two strikes against the Titan then.
40. Implanted July 5, 2024, by Dr. Andrew Kramer, Urology Associates of Cape Cod. AMS LGX, 21cm cylinders + 2cm RTEs. Idiopathic "hard flaccid" ED following bacterial infection. Tried pulse waves, Cialis, TRT, even spinal injections. Nada.


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