cost of procedure

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quigleyt57
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cost of procedure

Postby quigleyt57 » Sun May 11, 2014 4:39 pm

If this is covered in the threads already .... I apologize.
I have a major insurance company and as it turns out the implant procedure (ED treatments, are) is "Excluded" ... "for any reason". its not fair .... I was diagnosed in early 2011 with prostate cancer. a year later i underwent a radical prostatectamy. My doc attempted the nerve sparing robotic procedure, but low and behold, afterward things aren't working for me in the erection department. I had mild to moderate ED before the surgery (that was manageable with medication), and was regretfully, left with nothing afterward. Ive tried daily cialis, high dose cialis, viagra, trimix and bimix injections, muse, and just recently a pump. there's been no financial help with any of this from my insurance company. I held up hope that they might assist with an implant after trying all other options with no success. but nooooo. :(

After all this is said .. my question .... does anyone have a rough idea as to the possible cost to receive an implant with no insurance? The thought of its cost is scary, but the thought of having to live this way is terrible.

Your thoughts would really be appreciated .... Many Thanks
Quig

billylee
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby billylee » Sun May 11, 2014 4:55 pm

q,
I do not know from first hand experience, but from what I have read, cash negotiations can be made in the $18-20K figure. Hope this helps.
b
72, ED & PE worsened with age, TURP 2008, Prostrate 1.71, T-559,
Coloplast Titan OTR 21 cm (20+1 cm rear tip extender) on 3/11/2014 by Dr. Allan Morey UT-SW Medical/Dallas

rlm1818
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby rlm1818 » Sun May 11, 2014 5:31 pm

Use the advanced search function (upper right on the page) and search for 'implant cost without insurance' in the implant forum.
22cm Coloplast Titan OTR implanted Feb 2012 by Dr Francois Eid in NYC.
Initial implant experience here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1308

Bigtime071
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby Bigtime071 » Sun May 11, 2014 5:52 pm

Hey Brother. Go get Blue Cross and Blue Shield. Tell them you dont have any health problems. And wait about 3 months and then get your implant. You will be very pleased and satisfied with the outcome. Take Care Bri

ED2013
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby ED2013 » Sun May 11, 2014 6:05 pm

Personally, I paid about 19k

stringerbell
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby stringerbell » Sun May 11, 2014 6:08 pm

The cost when paying out of pocket varies wildly. I researched it- looks like the cheapest is a guy at Cleveland clinic (Montague) who was around $12,000. It seems cheap considering the implant alone costs around that much. A few guys are clustered around $20,000, including Garber, Goldstein, and even Kramer who's one of the more high profile/high volume guys. Perito and Eid, also huge volumes, seem to be 25k-30k, I'm sure it's just the overhead of their practices. All the top guys take insurance, if you are near open enrollment for your job and can switch, or get some coverage, you can go to one of the best in the world (eid, kramer, perito) and pay nothing. Only in the U.S….
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Bigtime071
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby Bigtime071 » Sun May 11, 2014 7:06 pm

I paid only 4000.00 my insurance paid almost 17000.00. So you do the math. It was a very good experience. I hope you will take some good advice. Take Care. Nobody will give you any better advice.

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Bionic_by_AMS
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby Bionic_by_AMS » Mon May 12, 2014 4:57 pm

Quig,
The "exclusion" is determined by the employer nor the Insurance company. You can appeal their decision ... you'll need to make sure that the URO used the proper medical "codes" for the process. If they just submitted the code for an Implant without the corresponding codes for your prostrate surgery ... then this may be an issue.

Others will cover if it is in their contract and depending on cause of ED: Vascular (Diabetes, Hypertension, Hypercholesterolemia, Tobacco, Coronary artery disease) or related to cancer surgery/treatment (prostate, colon, bladder, etc...).
http://www.urologicalcare.com/patient_information/faq-ipp/

In order to assist you with the cost determination, we will provide you with a letter of Medical Necessity, which includes the Procedure codes so that you are able to contact the carrier to determine the exact cost and expense.
http://www.urologicalcare.com/patient_information/ipp-details/
Robotic Prostrate surgery - Dec. 2011 - AMS 700 LGX Implant - 21 cm/3 cm RTE - June 2012

quigleyt57
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby quigleyt57 » Tue May 13, 2014 3:45 pm

Thanks all
I appreciate the advice sounds pretty daunting, but worth it.
Bigtime ... its actually bcbs of tn thatni have coverage with being very difficult I had bcbs in ny and they were totally different

bionic... will discuss your advi e with my doc.

THANK YOU

jryancey44
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Re: cost of procedure

Postby jryancey44 » Sat May 17, 2014 3:34 pm

Mine at Duke Hospital was $50K.

Jim


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