A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

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Discovernew
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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Discovernew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 12:53 pm

NorCol wrote:Apparently sent msgs stay in outbox until opened by recipient.


I was often wondering about this. Of the messages i sent, some are stuck in the outbox and others are in sent.

So basically "Sent" means that it was "Read"? And outbox means that it was sent?
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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Curved-Guy » Fri May 09, 2025 2:42 am

I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?
49,TT 20cm+2 (Undersized) 1/17 rupture. Redo 8/19 TT 22cm+2 rte's leaked 5/24 Redo 6/24 TT 22cm+3 leaked 3/1. Redo 3/27/25 with complications. Corrected 4/1/25 TT 22cm+3
Started 7.5”/ 6” girth, Now 7.8”/6.25” girth looking at 8”max with weight loss.

ready2go
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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby ready2go » Fri May 09, 2025 4:02 am

Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


so 1st one lasted 1.5 years , second 5 .5 ish years , then broke , the redo lasted a month and another break/redo and then 1 more year ? how do you handle all that surgery ?
American , retired in the philippines .
tactra malleable 13 mm ,in new delhi India . on april 2024

Discovernew
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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Discovernew » Fri May 09, 2025 5:45 am

Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


Hi Curved Guy, I also have a little curvature up. I do not use the VED 100% inflated, it is easier for me to use it maybe 70% inflated becuse the penis is more flexible.

By the way, I see in your signature in most of your revisions you were getting larger implant size. Did your penis become bigger every time you got a larger implant? Or nothing changed with the bigger implants?

Also how much size did you lose in your last surgery? Do you feel you lost size because of the surgery itself or because you took a long time to do your revision so you were deflated too long?
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
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ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby easymoney » Fri May 09, 2025 8:13 am

I'll throw my 2 cents in . Have a Rigicon ..was told to use VED before surgery but to stop after the implant was installed.Told me the reasoning was since it was a mallabble it might be possible to stretch the penile tissue and end up with floppy glans.
Rigicon since 6-2023 happy to share my experience and do show and tell

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Discovernew » Fri May 09, 2025 9:40 am

easymoney wrote:I'll throw my 2 cents in . Have a Rigicon ..was told to use VED before surgery but to stop after the implant was installed.Told me the reasoning was since it was a mallabble it might be possible to stretch the penile tissue and end up with floppy glans.


Hi Easymoney, I have seen you post the same misleading comment a few times on other threads. Please clarify in your signature thst you have a MALLEABLE. I have a rigicon inflatable. Your situation and mine are totally different. Saying "I have a rigicon" without saying you have a malleable is misleading.

And by the way, if the doctor said you will get floppy glans, he is actually confirming that VED therapy enlarges the penis, therefore your malleable will become too short for the penis.
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Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
My Implant Journal - Click Here

ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby OregonStrong » Fri May 09, 2025 3:52 pm

Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


I always start out using my VED with my implant deflated. I find I get more blood engorgement into the remnant corpora doing that and the glans. After ten minutes or so I'll take the VED off and partially inflate and put the VED back on. Leave it on another few minutes, take it off and pump a bit more into my implant. I do cycles of that until my implant is fully inflated and maxed out. I have to say I've got a pretty thick monstrous dick by the end of doing those cycles that I can't even fit my whole hand around, but maybe other users don't want too large or girthy of a penis depending on their partner. I personally like it. I don't pump too high of a pressure to develop lymphedema though but if you're careful you shouldn't. It's made my girth, when using a VED, greater than one I had pre-implant for sure.
51 yrs old. E.D. issues started around age 35, combo venous leak/testicular failure. Bilateral testicular implants for severely atrophic testes. Implanted 6/11/20 Dr. Kramer LGX 21cm + 1.

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Discovernew » Fri May 09, 2025 5:07 pm

OregonStrong wrote:
Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


I always start out using my VED with my implant deflated. I find I get more blood engorgement into the remnant corpora doing that and the glans. After ten minutes or so I'll take the VED off and partially inflate and put the VED back on. Leave it on another few minutes, take it off and pump a bit more into my implant. I do cycles of that until my implant is fully inflated and maxed out. I have to say I've got a pretty thick monstrous dick by the end of doing those cycles that I can't even fit my whole hand around, but maybe other users don't want too large or girthy of a penis depending on their partner. I personally like it. I don't pump too high of a pressure to develop lymphedema though but if you're careful you shouldn't. It's made my girth, when using a VED, greater than one I had pre-implant for sure.


Oregon, did the VED help you increase length/girth outside of the VED also? or only during the time you use the VED?

I also use VED in a similar way to you , i started recently, i do not start at zero inflation but maybe 50% and then add pumps and repeat. I am noticiing my dick grows inside the VED but not necessarily outside.

So i am not sure yet, if my penis is really growing, or i am just getting better at using the VED (more pressure and so on)
Implanted October 11, 2024, Dr Karaman. Infla10 AX 20cm +1cm RTE.
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ED about 14 years. Pills worked for 12 years, later worked 50%. Tried almost everything, nothing worked: Shockwave-Testosterone-PRP-Stem Cells-Botox, Etc

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Curved-Guy » Mon May 12, 2025 4:59 am

ready2go wrote:
Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


so 1st one lasted 1.5 years , second 5 .5 ish years , then broke , the redo lasted a month and another break/redo and then 1 more year ? how do you handle all that surgery ?



It wasn’t fun and very mentally draining. There was a point where I considered having it removed and cutting my losses! Thank god for having a great wife that encouraged me to be strong and endure.
49,TT 20cm+2 (Undersized) 1/17 rupture. Redo 8/19 TT 22cm+2 rte's leaked 5/24 Redo 6/24 TT 22cm+3 leaked 3/1. Redo 3/27/25 with complications. Corrected 4/1/25 TT 22cm+3
Started 7.5”/ 6” girth, Now 7.8”/6.25” girth looking at 8”max with weight loss.

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Re: A Vacuum Erection Device/VED/penis pump should be used before and after surgery by essentially everyone.

Postby Curved-Guy » Mon May 12, 2025 5:34 am

Discovernew wrote:
Curved-Guy wrote:I have a question if anyone can lend advice. I’m on my fourth implant, I didn’t start using a VED until my third implant which failed from a hose issue not cylinders. My penis has a very defined upward curve so there’s no way for me to use a VED while fully pumped. Up to now I’ve only used it while flaccid then cycled after to stretch the cylinders to the space provided by the VED. Ive seen some say they use the VED while fully and partially pumped. I’m little over 1.5 months post 4th revision and considering going to partially pumped VED use to get back to my previous size of my 3rd implant. My question is, in your experience is there much difference in pumping while fully pumped vs semi pumped vs flaccid?
Are the gains much greater one over the other with time?


Hi Curved Guy, I also have a little curvature up. I do not use the VED 100% inflated, it is easier for me to use it maybe 70% inflated becuse the penis is more flexible.

By the way, I see in your signature in most of your revisions you were getting larger implant size. Did your penis become bigger every time you got a larger implant? Or nothing changed with the bigger implants?

Also how much size did you lose in your last surgery? Do you feel you lost size because of the surgery itself or because you took a long time to do your revision so you were deflated too long?


Thanks for your response/advise. My first implant was undersized corrected by the second. Yes I increased in size, length and width before the third revision. On the third I noticed some more gains with VED use but only used VED while not pumped up. Currently I don’t feel I lost in size other than it being a new implant that hasn’t been stretched yet. I believe with the use of the VED I can do that (stretch it) a bit faster than the years it took to stretch the second one.
49,TT 20cm+2 (Undersized) 1/17 rupture. Redo 8/19 TT 22cm+2 rte's leaked 5/24 Redo 6/24 TT 22cm+3 leaked 3/1. Redo 3/27/25 with complications. Corrected 4/1/25 TT 22cm+3
Started 7.5”/ 6” girth, Now 7.8”/6.25” girth looking at 8”max with weight loss.


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