ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

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ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby RickRed40 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:51 pm

Receiving a diagnosis of Prostate Cancer was a shock to my emotional, relational, and sexual life. My libido which was at a 10 before my diagnosis dropped down to zero after I received my biopsy results. While surgery cured me of cancer, being cured of cancer didn't bring back my libido.

I was surprised how devastated I was when I could not regain erectile functioning. I felt as though my manhood and usefulness as man was taken away and would not and could not be repaired. Back in the day, kissing or touching my wife could produce an erection. Now there wasn't anything she could say or do that would get a rise from me. My wife felt awful and I felt awful, but we could not comfort one another because I didn't want to think or talk about my impotence. I withdrew emotionally. I carefully avoided all physical contact which only served to remind me of my impotence.

At my lowest point, I gallantly used what little manhood I had left to inform my wife that I hereby release her from her wedding vow to stay with me in sickness and in health. I told her it was time for her to find a man who could love her in the way she needed to be loved. At the time I thought this was a loving, kind and generous offer.

I was surprised that my wife didn't react with joy and take me up on my magnanimous offer. Rather than feel released and free to find another man, she was both hurt and angry that I would suggest such a thing to her. What I realize now is my offer to release my wife of our wedding vows was a very selfish offer. My wife's very presence reminded me of my impotence, shame and loss of manhood. I thought I'd feel better if I were left alone.

How could I forget how much my wife needed to be held, cuddled, touched affectionately and kissed. How could I forget the power of speaking loving and tender words to each other. Looking back I don't think it was a matter of forgetting, but rather all of these behaviors were bitter reminders to me that I was impotent, so I avoided them like the plague. As a result I suffered alone, my wife suffered alone, and our marriage together suffered.

Fortunately I was blessed with a woman who had a Biblical view of marriage as a covenant that would not and could not be broken. She knew I had no power to release her from the covenant we made together on our wedding day. Therefore, she was ready, willing, and able to fight to keep our relationship alive at a point when I felt useless and dead inside. It took me a few years before I was ready to enlist and join my wife in the battle to restore our relationship.

It wasn't an easy lesson to learn that manhood has little to do with your erectile abilities. My Lord and Savior Jesus was for me the definition of a man's man. He knew how to love others sacrificially. His capacity to love and act like a man was not in the least bit connected to His erectile abilities. I realized that God was giving me the opportunity through my experiences with erectile dysfunction to learn a new definition of being a man.

Since I was married, I realized the Lord was also providing me with the opportunity to learn more about my sexuality and my wife's sexuality to enable us to enjoy mutually exciting and satisfying sex together that wasn't dependent upon my having an erection. We created a new and satisfying sex life together which was a delightful surprise to me.

My challenge to every man coping with erectile dysfunction is don't give up. Meet the challenge. Find ways to enjoy the sexuality you have left. In addition to finding new ways to enjoy your sexuality, strengthen your love for one another.

This is the best definition of love I've ever read. Not one of these characteristics require an erection. If you love your partner like this, they will feel blessed.

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. (1 Cor 13:4-8 NKJV)

After 4 years, I decided to go for a penile implant. My wife and I missed making love and we saw no reason not to take this option to get back what cancer took away.
My surgery is scheduled for 1/23

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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby dtwarren1942 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 3:12 pm

Hey Rick!

Thanks for posting your heart felt history. Very inspiring. Good luck with your surgery.
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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby dg_moore » Sun Jan 18, 2015 4:58 pm

Rather than surgery, my ED came about as the result of a stroke and diabetes. Pills worked for a long time, and when they stopped we tried everything but nothing worked. During this time of fumbling around our mutual interest waned - my wife lost desire after menopause, and in any case the only form of sex she was ever enthusiastic about was intercourse - cuddling, oral, etc. were not a substitute. I finally made the last-ditch decision to get an implant, but it turned out to be too late for us. By the time I had healed from the surgery, neither my wife nor I had any interest. We tried it once for old times' sake, but she asked me to stop after a few seconds - she just didn't want to be doing it, and my heart wasn't in it either. The passion is gone, but we're still best friends, and life is as good as it can be given our age and health. The implant is pretty much a foolproof remedy for ED, but only if you get it when you need it. Being able to perform is only part of the equation - ability without desire is superfluous.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby Andy425 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:21 pm

And then there's us single guys who don't even want to attempt starting a relationship, knowing there are no goal posts.
RP in 2012 because of prostate cancer. 100% ED, also some leakage problems.

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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby RickRed40 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:39 pm

I'm blessed with a wife who is keenly interested in sex. Sadly my libido has dropped to zero. I'm getting implant for two reasons, one my wife certainly is very supportive and will enjoy our resumption of intercourse. I'm hoping that some of my desire returns when I'm able to enjoy experience as well. Even if doesn't come back, I we both enjoy the experience which I do believe we will, I plan to make good use out of the implant, so much so I'm hoping in 10 years or less it stops working due to the number of times it's been used. I'll get a replacement if we still enjoy our sex life.

I do wish I knew something that would bring back my libido. My T level is fine, My Urologist put me on Testosterone one month at one pump the second month at 2 pumps and I experienced a zero raise in interest.
Sorry to hear by the time you pulled the trigger on the implant neither of you wanted to use it.

Also if I were single, I don't believe ED is necessarily a deal breaker, so I wouldn't feel unworthy of dating. That said, I'd also seriously consider an implant if ED was stopping me from dating.

Less than a week to go before surgery. Time is passing very slowly.

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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby dtwarren1942 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:16 pm

My personal observation: I have sever diabetic induced ED. I noticed that when it is flaccid, which is most of the time, I have little or no libido. However, once I "artificially" induce an erection (VED or Trimix) my libido significantly increases. Hopefully, your implant will have the same effect.
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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby dg_moore » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:07 pm

dtwarren1942 wrote:My personal observation: I have sever diabetic induced ED. I noticed that when it is flaccid, which is most of the time, I have little or no libido. However, once I "artificially" induce an erection (VED or Trimix) my libido significantly increases. Hopefully, your implant will have the same effect.

In my case, flaccid or inflated, there is no increase in libido or desire - it remains at zero and has for many years.
Dave, 80, Maryland - Implant (Titan) 2008 by Dr. Andrew Kramer (failed Sept 2020) - never used due to a stroke that, among other things, ended my sex life.
Life is not the way it's supposed to be, it's the way it is.

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Re: ED-Friend or Foe? You Get to Decide

Postby Andy425 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:17 pm

FWIW: At 64, my libido is as crazy as it was decades ago. Not that it does me any good though.
RP in 2012 because of prostate cancer. 100% ED, also some leakage problems.


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