injection update

[silverbk54]

I went to the urologist after work today for my second injection. This time, I did it myself. It wasn't bad at all! He suggested we decrease the dose from 10 to 9 units as my erection lasted about two and a half hours. The decreased dosage did not decrease the length of time after this injection. The shaft gets very hard, thicker than prior to the surgery. I assume the increased thickness is due to the use of the pump. That I like. What I don't like is the lack of swelling in the head of my penis. Any suggestions? It sure does feel good to have a functional erection again. Thanks for your thoughts and support.

[antelope]

Silver,

Congratulations! Ain't it great having a real hard-on again! As far as the head getting hard, I'd say give it time. Maybe little Silver just needs to get used to all that blood flowing again. You might also do what can only be called a pecker massage after the injection. Pull downward on the shaft as if you are pushing the happy juice down toward the tip. I don't know if that will help with the issue you've described; I know it helps me get harder faster.

Greg

[JimStars]

Silver,

You are correct about your observation that the glans/head does not get engorged as much with injects as with your (former) natural erections. ( is that same with an implant? I would think yes).

I believe this is due to the selectivity of the injection which goes into the Corpus Cavernosum Penis ( that's the big dual ones) and
not so much into the Corpus Cavernosum Urethra (that's the one on the underside of penis),

You'll no doubt remember this would get well engorged with a natural but a lot less so with injections. I assume it is because the injection contents does not diffuse over into that Corpus C U. because it is separated by quite a lot of tissue/plumbing etc..

Now that got me to thinking about what happens when I use MUSE instead of an injection. (Since the MUSE i think would diffuse even MORE into the Corp Cav Urethra since it starts off in the urethra itself. But I cannot for the life recall whether the glans is better inflated by that method or not.

Also now that makes me think that the more achiness of MUSE is caused by the fact that it DOES diffuse into the C.C. urethra more and into the glans area more .. causing more ache there because the glans has much more nerves that can detect pain (or pleasure!) than the rest of the penis (shaft etc).

Soooo it is probably good that your glans/head is NOT engorging more .. you'd probably have more pain.

OK who wants to try injecting a tiny amount into the Corpus C Urthera ? Would be a very delicate maneuver to not hit the urethra... ouch.

Wicked good question you had !

J

[JimStars]

that makes me think that the more achiness of MUSE is caused by the fact that it DOES diffuse into the C.C. urethra more and into the glans area more .. causing more ache there because the glans has much more nerves that can detect pain (or pleasure!) than the rest of the penis (shaft etc).

Quoting myself here ...

And the results for MUSE are in. It does give a better 'head' to an erection. Probably because more of the PGE-1 is absorbed by the Corpus Caver Urethra. But it does give the dull ache more than trimix, and is less reliable - you just never know what you'll end up with for MUSE results -- sometimes 100% for hours .. sometimes only 80% or so for only an hour.

J

[Cajun Jeff]

I must say my results have been exactly the opposite. With injections I get hard all the way to the tip. With MUSE I got nothing but real Pain. I get just about the same results from Caverject, TriMix and BiMix. All work very well.

It is strange how we all react differently to the same drugs.

Cajun jeff

[JimStars]

CJ,

Doing a second check after trimix was fully involved ... I suppose the glans is fairly well defined for me, but mostly from the Corpus Caver Penis ... which I can feel totally rock hard inflated right under the head .. and not due the Corpus Caver Urethra inflating, which was decidedly NOT inflated and just kind of flat all the way down the underside -- not at all like it would be in a Natural.

How to get a little juice in that part? I was thinking of just squirting some of the trimix down the chute and let it absorb thru into the C C Urethra -- although at 50mcg/ml level it is not likely to do much (MUSE for instance is 1000mcg in the little pellet). But a little squirt might do it -- and no extra needle inject needed. Can even make a injector-over-the-needle from part of the MUSE inserter -- just the right size,

Will see next time.

J

[JimStars]

How to get a little juice in that part? I was thinking of just squirting some of the trimix down the chute and let it absorb thru into the C C Urethra -- although at 50mcg/ml level it is not likely to do much (MUSE for instance is 1000mcg in the little pellet). But a little squirt might do it -- and no extra needle inject needed.

Quoting myself again ,, and with another update.

I transferred about 60 units of Trimix liquid (at PGE-1 @ 50mcg/ml strength and 30cc vial so I got tons to use) into a empty Trimix-Gel applicator ( a little plastic injector with a small blunt glans shaped top that you press against your urethral opening and sploosh the liquid in). That 60 units (which you have to hold in by keeping your pee-hole squeezed shut for about 5 minutes while it absorbs) did manage to get some erection (60-70%?) even tho it was only about 1/40th the strength of original Trimix-Gel (1500 mcg). And it did seem to favor the glans and Corpus Cav Urethra. I did another try with 100 units (but had taken a 100mg Viagra also with that one). That one I think was less effective -- maybe the Viagra does not help in these cases as has been speculated in this and other forums.

Now to try this in-the-urethra method along with an actual injection. Could be tricky as to how much the extra urethral liquid will contribute to the whole erection process -- Don't want the 4+ hour problem and I am already pushing close to that as it is.

One thing with the urethral method is you can still get some nitetime chubs even on off days when not using a needle inject -- gives the missus something substantial to hold on to in bed for a few hours as you both drift off to sleep, yah know? Also it uses up the 30 cc vial quicker -- allowing a fresh batch to be made up sooner than 90+ days.

more next time...
J

[barfinkl1]

Silver ~ Congrats on your injection success. I agree that it's not bad at all. At first, it's kinda daunting to be sticking a needle there, but you get used to it. It's especially nice to have that erection again. My first injection was at the docs office about 4 months or so after my surgery. He gave me a light dose just to make sure I'd react to it OK. Then he called in the order for the Trimix to the pharmacy and next day I got it. I've never had a problem with priaprism so far. I usually inject about 30 or so, and as the Trimix gets older and weakens, I increase it to 50. Works every time, virtually. You just have to pay attention to the injection site and make sure you get it where you're supposed to. I'm on aspirin therapy and because of that, my blood's really thin. Occasionally, I will "spring a leak" and bleed a little, but it stops quickly. I've bruised myself a couple times, but oh well...

Keep us up to date on your progress. Up up and away!

Steve

[JimStars]

I transferred about 60 units of Trimix liquid (at PGE-1 @ 50mcg/ml strength and 30cc vial so I got tons to use) into a empty Trimix-Gel applicator and squirted it down the urethral opening

Another update on this. After some success squirting the Trimix directly in the urethra I decided to make a special 30 ml vial with some Trimix-Gel and MUSE to boost the strength per ml. Got it to 3500 mcg(PGE-1)/30ml = approx 120mcg/ml.

Using around 100 units does give a pretty good erection (especially when lying on your side spooning) -- even for penetration or just for fooling around. Lasts for quite a while as long as you don't try anything too vigorous with it.

It is great for penile (an emotional) 'therapy' in between needle shots. You can still go to bed every nite like the old days with a hard-on and yet not have to worry about too many needle injections per month. The cost is 30+5+5+5 ( gel+muse+muse+vial) or 45$ for 30 splooshes ($1+ dollars per). That really stretches out your gel and MUSE resources (and no ache whatsoever at those low doses). So if you have leftover MUSE or Gel you can put it to good use for daily rehab.

(just don't mistake that urethal vial for your needle vial -- or it'll be off to the ER for you!)

J

[JimStars]

Another update on the liquid-nails idea:

Had one not so successful sploosh using the 120mcg/ml strength liquid (but it could have been due to drinking wine earlier in evening ... or L-Arginine taken just before or something).

I added another pellet of MUSE to the vial -- making it around 150 mcg/ml strength. That one for some reason also was not as good as prior ones -- kind of a softy.

I added one more pellet -- now up to 180mcg/ml and used a whole 100 units in the sploosh. That one worked really good -- rock hard almost as if it was full strength MUSE or Trimix(inject). So will continue to work with that strength for a while and see how reliable it is. Still a great way to keep the daily rehab going without needles all the time.

J