Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

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Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby ocitgo » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:53 am

I am experimenting with a Tens 7000 I found on Amazon. It is new to me.

Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy: A Promising Novel Modality for Erectile Dysfunction
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4026654/
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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby qcswral » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:06 am

Thanks for posting this....sounds very promising..While in Florida this past winter and exploring an area for possible relocation, I was surfing the web on ED with particular attention to ED treatment in Florida...I came across this treatment site which offers the LIST therapy discussed in your link..
Here it is.....http://www.menspowertherapy.com/Prostate-Cancer.html

Please let us know your progress. I would like to know the type of TENS unit you purchased and how do you know what strength to use on the machine?
The cause of my ED is clearly cardio-vascular disease as I had to undergo a coronary by=pass 4 years ago
I'd appreciate your continued comments in this area as I'm sure others will as well.
70 year old legally separated retired health-care professional. ED began in my early 50's. Viagra worked great for about 5 years, then had cardiac by-pass surgery and eventually moved to injections about 10 years ago.

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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby dtwarren1942 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:20 pm

Great article. Thanks for sharing. I too look forward to following your progress.
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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby Anonymous2 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:57 am

Hi Q, Just come across this part of the answer you put in.
Please let us know your progress. I would like to know the type of TENS unit you purchased and how do you know what strength to use on the machine?
The cause of my ED is clearly cardio-vascular disease as I had to undergo a coronary by=pass 4 years ago.
The root problem of cardio-vascular disease is plaque and as it builds up it slows you down, now its not just ion your heart its all around your body, and one of the reasons for ED, below your find what I take, but do check your meds, its all just herbs but if your on blood thinners they may react.

Now what is below is all very healthy and if do read about all of the your see that they will do thing like clear away plaque, lower HBP and most of give you very good erections, and that last bit I can vouch for.


The way out and clearing away plaque would be to get on Cayenne Pepper, Turmeric and garlic, take this each morning and see how you go.
Its all very healthy for you.
You just mix CP and Turmeric 50/50 in olive oil and then mix with tomato paste and thin it with olive oil, at first you just mix this to a heat that suits you, and over time you can slowly increase the CP and Turmeric.
You take 3 teaspoonfuls each morning first thing, you wash each spoonful down with water, before anything else just after you get up, one thing it will warm you up, with this, which will also help would be very fine chopped garlic, just do a whole head, chopped fine, and keep in olive oil, with this you add dried parsley, a couple of good desert spoonful’s and mix, you just add a teaspoonful on top of the CP an turmeric mix, just mix into the top take as said.
The Parsley its very good for the blood and helps keep your Cholesterol down.
Please do keep both jars in the fridge, keeps a lot better that way.
Now if you google and read up about all three, there very good for ED, your cholesterol, heart and prostate and RA, garlic is also very good for your blood, so along with the CP and turmeric, your be doing your body the world of good.
At first you really need to be taken this 3 times a day the other 2 times just before meals, for 2 weeks, then just twice a day for 2 weeks then just the once at first thing in the mornings, great way to start the day.
And yes have had ED now in recovery and do take what is above daily along with other supplements and a hormone.
So do hope this helps you.
Good Luck
PS This really needs a 12 week trail, to see if its going to work for you, if its for RA do increase it up, the stronger it is the better it works for you.
Don’t forget to up the amount of CP and turmeric as you go on.

One last piece of info, some CP I got out here in Greece was not very hot, so changed shops and using a 50/50 mix of CP and chilli powder this I put a heaped teaspoon on top each day along with a heaped teaspoon of turmeric, now from a site I’m on they say to help turmeric get absorbed to take a ¼ teaspoon of black pepper with it, what a great way to light a fire in your stomach to get the day started.

One last thing if your on statins, these are great sex killers, as these will give you ED, have a read on this site, www.spacedoc.com the guy who owns and runs the site is a doctor and an astronaut and these more by other doctors, also google the daily mail and statins, lots of articles some even from doctors who were put on them, makes for an interesting read.

Good Luck

NOWHARD
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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby ocitgo » Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:59 am

http://www.amazon.com/Tens-Unit-Machine ... ge_o04_s00

This is my Tens unit. It is a good start and well made. I bought some 2 in pads. They are on Amazon too.
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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby qcswral » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:28 am

NOWHARD wrote:Hi Q, Just come across this part of the answer you put in.
Please let us know your progress. I would like to know the type of TENS unit you purchased and how do you know what strength to use on the machine?
The cause of my ED is clearly cardio-vascular disease as I had to undergo a coronary by=pass 4 years ago.
The root problem of cardio-vascular disease is plaque and as it builds up it slows you down, now its not just ion your heart its all around your body, and one of the reasons for ED, below your find what I take, but do check your meds, its all just herbs but if your on blood thinners they may react.

Now what is below is all very healthy and if do read about all of the your see that they will do thing like clear away plaque, lower HBP and most of give you very good erections, and that last bit I can vouch for.


The way out and clearing away plaque would be to get on Cayenne Pepper, Turmeric and garlic, take this each morning and see how you go.
Its all very healthy for you.
You just mix CP and Turmeric 50/50 in olive oil and then mix with tomato paste and thin it with olive oil, at first you just mix this to a heat that suits you, and over time you can slowly increase the CP and Turmeric.
You take 3 teaspoonfuls each morning first thing, you wash each spoonful down with water, before anything else just after you get up, one thing it will warm you up, with this, which will also help would be very fine chopped garlic, just do a whole head, chopped fine, and keep in olive oil, with this you add dried parsley, a couple of good desert spoonful’s and mix, you just add a teaspoonful on top of the CP an turmeric mix, just mix into the top take as said.
The Parsley its very good for the blood and helps keep your Cholesterol down.

Thanks for your in-put..I've seen your posts before regarding your formula for coronary artery disease....There is clearly a genetic component to my situation. I have never smoked, never was obese or overweight..I'm an avid surfer, and if I'm not surfing, or biking I'm at the gym. I have lived my whole adult life in this manner and was completely taken by surprise by my need for surgery after several weeks of angina pain while exercising.. I always went for yearly physicals, BP was under control and my cholesterol always within normal limits. Do not be fooled...half the patients on cardiac units have normal cholesterol ( as recommended by the AHA), never smoked and are relatively fit. Since my by-pass 4 years ago I am predominately a vegetarian, my total cholesterol is under 120, I continue to exercise and last summer began practicing yoga. I take CO-Q 10 300mgs daily to counter act the ill effects of statins..I basically follow the Dean Ornish program for reversing heart disease if that's at all possible. New research has been showing that people like me who have coronary artery disease ( my father and his one brother both had by-pass surgery in their 50's and 60's) with a strong genetic correlation, have for lack of a better explanation an "auto-immune" response to cholesterol. It's as though our bodies are attacking itself via our arteries...I am just stating the above.. It almost seems whatever I do to address the disease is just not enough. Also, you should know...according to my URO doc my testosterone levels are robust...desire has never or is now the problem. Statins can lower your T levels granted, but to date it hasn't within me. I appreciate your comments, I just don't know if I can incorporate another routine into my daily life to address my disease. I am semi-retired and a great portion of my day is spent caring for my coronary disease..getting to the gym, Yoga, shopping for wholesome, fiber rich foods...cooking meals from scratch utilizing beans, legumes, whole garlic, no sodium,with whole grain products. Sounds exhausting? Not really, I've come to actually enjoy the challenge....but there are days when I just want to throw up my hands and go to Five Guys for a cheese burger...lol..THanks I will try your formula and see what happens....
Please do keep both jars in the fridge, keeps a lot better that way.
Now if you google and read up about all three, there very good for ED, your cholesterol, heart and prostate and RA, garlic is also very good for your blood, so along with the CP and turmeric, your be doing your body the world of good.
At first you really need to be taken this 3 times a day the other 2 times just before meals, for 2 weeks, then just twice a day for 2 weeks then just the once at first thing in the mornings, great way to start the day.
And yes

NOWHARD
Last edited by qcswral on Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:33 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby qcswral » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:31 am

ocitgo wrote:http://www.amazon.com/Tens-Unit-Machine-Management-Rehabilitation/dp/B00NCRE4GO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00

This is my Tens unit. It is a good start and well made. I bought some 2 in pads. They are on Amazon too.


What I'm a bit confused about is this TENS unit utilizes electro-shock for stimulation as opposed to sound waves. I believe there is a difference...Do you know if there is a difference?..I have gone on-line and apparently there are units that use sound waves as opposed to electronic waves....Must be a difference. What do you think?
70 year old legally separated retired health-care professional. ED began in my early 50's. Viagra worked great for about 5 years, then had cardiac by-pass surgery and eventually moved to injections about 10 years ago.

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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby qcswral » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:36 am

Thanks for your in-put..I've seen your posts before regarding your formula for coronary artery disease....There is clearly a genetic component to my situation. I have never smoked, never was obese or overweight..I'm an avid surfer, and if I'm not surfing, or biking I'm at the gym. I have lived my whole adult life in this manner and was completely taken by surprise by my need for surgery after several weeks of angina pain while exercising.. I always went for yearly physicals, BP was under control and my cholesterol always within normal limits. Do not be fooled...half the patients on cardiac units have normal cholesterol ( as recommended by the AHA), never smoked and are relatively fit. Since my by-pass 4 years ago I am predominately a vegetarian, my total cholesterol is under 120, I continue to exercise and last summer began practicing yoga. I take CO-Q 10 300mgs daily to counter act the ill effects of statins..I basically follow the Dean Ornish program for reversing heart disease if that's at all possible. New research has been showing that people like me who have coronary artery disease ( my father and his one brother both had by-pass surgery in their 50's and 60's) with a strong genetic correlation, have for lack of a better explanation an "auto-immune" response to cholesterol. It's as though our bodies are attacking itself via our arteries...I am just stating the above.. It almost seems whatever I do to address the disease is just not enough. Also, you should know...according to my URO doc my testosterone levels are robust...desire has never or is now the problem. Statins can lower your T levels granted, but to date it hasn't within me. I appreciate your comments, I just don't know if I can incorporate another routine into my daily life to address my disease. I am semi-retired and a great portion of my day is spent caring for my coronary disease..getting to the gym, Yoga, shopping for wholesome, fiber rich foods...cooking meals from scratch utilizing beans, legumes, whole garlic, no sodium,with whole grain products. Sounds exhausting? Not really, I've come to actually enjoy the challenge....but there are days when I just want to throw up my hands and go to Five Guys for a cheese burger...lol..THanks I will try your formula and see what happens....
Please do keep both jars in the fridge, keeps a lot better that way.
Now if you google and read up about all three, there very good for ED, your cholesterol, heart and prostate and RA, garlic is also very good for your blood, so along with the CP and turmeric, your be doing your body the world of good.
70 year old legally separated retired health-care professional. ED began in my early 50's. Viagra worked great for about 5 years, then had cardiac by-pass surgery and eventually moved to injections about 10 years ago.

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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby Anonymous2 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:05 pm

qcswral wrote:Thanks for your in-put..I've seen your posts before regarding your formula for coronary artery disease....There is clearly a genetic component to my situation. I have never smoked, never was obese or overweight..I'm an avid surfer, and if I'm not surfing, or biking I'm at the gym. I have lived my whole adult life in this manner and was completely taken by surprise by my need for surgery after several weeks of angina pain while exercising.. I always went for yearly physicals, BP was under control and my cholesterol always within normal limits. Do not be fooled...half the patients on cardiac units have normal cholesterol ( as recommended by the AHA), never smoked and are relatively fit. Since my by-pass 4 years ago I am predominately a vegetarian, my total cholesterol is under 120, I continue to exercise and last summer began practicing yoga. I take CO-Q 10 300mgs daily to counter act the ill effects of statins..I basically follow the Dean Ornish program for reversing heart disease if that's at all possible. New research has been showing that people like me who have coronary artery disease ( my father and his one brother both had by-pass surgery in their 50's and 60's) with a strong genetic correlation, have for lack of a better explanation an "auto-immune" response to cholesterol. It's as though our bodies are attacking itself via our arteries...I am just stating the above.. It almost seems whatever I do to address the disease is just not enough. Also, you should know...according to my URO doc my testosterone levels are robust...desire has never or is now the problem. Statins can lower your T levels granted, but to date it hasn't within me. I appreciate your comments, I just don't know if I can incorporate another routine into my daily life to address my disease. I am semi-retired and a great portion of my day is spent caring for my coronary disease..getting to the gym, Yoga, shopping for wholesome, fiber rich foods...cooking meals from scratch utilizing beans, legumes, whole garlic, no sodium,with whole grain products. Sounds exhausting? Not really, I've come to actually enjoy the challenge....but there are days when I just want to throw up my hands and go to Five Guys for a cheese burger...lol..THanks I will try your formula and see what happens....
Please do keep both jars in the fridge, keeps a lot better that way.
Now if you google and read up about all three, there very good for ED, your cholesterol, heart and prostate and RA, garlic is also very good for your blood, so along with the CP and turmeric, your be doing your body the world of good.


Hi Q Just do the 12 week trail and see how you feel then, but if want try the last piece as way of taken it, and don't forget the black pepper.
But you sound as your really up on you life and keeping healthy, if you can find time try some jelqing and simple stretching of your penis, I'm just going through it after sometime of not, just getting my penis ready for when my wife's comes for a stay in our house here in Greece, finding by doing these getting some really good strong morning erections.
By doing these your pushing extra blood down your penis, its like pushing the blood through and getting it going again, could be worth a try, if interested just get back to me.

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Re: Penile Low-Intensity Shock Wave Therapy

Postby alibaba » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:14 pm

I have a tens unit similar to what you bought on Amazon I've used for 15 years. Also a commercial unit. As far as the penis is concerned it seems to me that it is only good for J.O. stimulation to change things up. I do not see much advantage for partner sex. Even after the prostatectomy without nerve sparing it can give some stimulation that can be gratifying. I tend to think this is not a good tool for ED therapy because it can also be used trans rectally to cure hemorrhoids. I used it myself for that purpose for several years. Being it can shrink hemorrhoid blood flow arteries it might not be good for your dick.

I also have an ultrasonic machine. I have asked on FT before and not had much response. It seemed to increase penile blood flow which is what it is used for in chiropractic uses ( why I had bought this also) but they moved my implant surgery date ahead by a couple months and did not get to use it enough to see where it would lead. I thought it held promise. I am convinced blood flow had improved, especially on the side with the peronies plaque. The cost has dropped a lot since I bought mine.
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