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Re: Trimix gel

Postby oowright » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:24 pm

Ali, ever tried a Bathmate water pump? Have you tried injecting on the underside of the willie?
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Re: Trimix gel

Postby alibaba » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:09 pm

Never a bathmate. Do have a vacuum pump but cannot use it do to the damned tubing on top gets in a pinch and a snit.
Never tried injecting below. Does not seem to be something easy to hit.
Pharmacist friend is going to make me up some gel to try first of the week.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Re: Trimix gel

Postby JimStars » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:53 pm

Cripes you can't inject! Well maybe you could inject into the Corpus Urethra itself but it is such a small diameter target compared to your (former) Corpus Cavernosa). Would be a very tough shot.

Urethral use of Trimix Gel is being used because the Doc thinks the Corpus Urethra can be fattened up including the Glans by absorbing the ingredients. Might work .. might not.

J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.

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Re: Trimix gel

Postby alibaba » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:35 am

I did the math from some studies I read on Trimix gel. Based on the study information and expecting similar results from the compounded version, the arithmetic gives this a 38% chance of working. My friend is going to try to heat up the recipe a bit to see if that can be improved. We have spent a lot of late night time going over recipes and studies. Once again, I am blessed having pharmacist, chemical engineer and researcher friends. Will report once I get to try it.
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Re: Trimix gel

Postby alibaba » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:05 am

Well poo. Rec'd an email that one of the ingredients in the trimix gel is on back order and the supplier cannot give a date when it will be available. Suggested I try other compounders in New York, L.A., or Miami to see if they have available supplies on hand. I do not know which component is the issue.
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Re: Trimix gel

Postby SailingHome » Tue May 10, 2016 12:44 am

I'm new here, and this is my first post, but I wanted to weigh in as a Ph.D. research scientist. Some thoughts:
* Look at the ratio of PGE1 to the other trimix ingredients. In injection, it's micrograms E1 and mg the others. In gel... let's be real, the other ingredients can't do anything given transdermal needs HIGHER doses, and they put micrograms. It's just a marketing tactic
* I use this stuff too. Even made a few batches. Cost is high because the E1 per gram is about US$2k per gram for reference purity and 0% toxins. The prices I am reading in this thread tell me that as for-profit companies, they are using poor grade (but probably still USP) ingredients
* There is a world-wide medicine club that is basically costco for medicine. Hospitals and other big guys pay huge membership fees and get good prices. Individuals pay nothing. It is not-for-profit with the belief that everyone deserves medicine AT COST. Yes - individuals get medicine at the actual cost to produce it and, yes, they are a compounding pharmacy as well and do make this gel
* MaleHealth Technologies, a private research company purely concerned with male health, quality of life, and quantity of life research also sell the gel at cost
* NO I am not affilliated in any way to these companies, but since they are both not-for-profit, my PayPal to Bitcoin transfer service will waive all transfer fees which we do for all non profits that for your privacy and security, as well as theirs, only accept Bitcoin (not an advertisement for my service - full disclosure how I know about them.)

Moderators, can I post the contact info or PM is best?

Cheers,
- J

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Re: Trimix gel

Postby SailingHome » Tue May 10, 2016 12:50 am

alibaba wrote:Never a bathmate. Do have a vacuum pump but cannot use it do to the damned tubing on top gets in a pinch and a snit.
Never tried injecting below. Does not seem to be something easy to hit.
Pharmacist friend is going to make me up some gel to try first of the week.
Thanks for the suggestions.


Did he make it for you? The polymer matrix required to make the transdermal efficient enough that low doses (read low cost at US$2k/gram) isn't easy or small batch compatible (usually.) A liter (quart) is about as small as you want to go without great equipment. The other option is DMSO, glycerine, or PEG as the transdermal, but then you need high mg of E1 (expensive)

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Re: Trimix gel

Postby alibaba » Tue May 10, 2016 2:25 pm

SailingHome wrote:
alibaba wrote:Never a bathmate. Do have a vacuum pump but cannot use it do to the damned tubing on top gets in a pinch and a snit.
Never tried injecting below. Does not seem to be something easy to hit.
Pharmacist friend is going to make me up some gel to try first of the week.
Thanks for the suggestions.


Did he make it for you? The polymer matrix required to make the transdermal efficient enough that low doses (read low cost at US$2k/gram) isn't easy or small batch compatible (usually.) A liter (quart) is about as small as you want to go without great equipment. The other option is DMSO, glycerine, or PEG as the transdermal, but then you need high mg of E1 (expensive)


This it the first I have seen the previous post 5/10/2016 No I have not looked into it. Nearly reads like the scam emails I received offering to sell me a Bobcat Skidsteer loader, diesel 4x4 Kabota and a Polaris 4 wheeler all for 1/4 or less of value. I will check into it later tonight. I have DMSO and some other compounding gels on hand myself. Even have capability to measure minute amounts from some of my agricultural research projects I've done over the years. Just do not have any of the androgenic antagonists to mix with it. Today's news story headline was a local business owner was convicted of importing steriods from China. I find it hard to believe that Phentolamine is on back order everywhere. It is used in cases of very high blood pressure to bring it down as an injectable. I think the drug companies "create" these shortages to jack prices for future sales.
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Re: Trimix gel

Postby JimStars » Tue May 10, 2016 9:37 pm

Sailing,

Yes your observation is correct about Trimix Gel being Trimix in name only as the Pap and Phent levels are miniscule even by injectables standards.

But even at your stated price of $2000/gm PGE-1 .. well that is $2 per 1000mcg -- which is all you need for single urethral use. Also I have found that a gel distributes the ingredients up and down entire urethra whereas using a pellet (MUSE) concentrates it in one superhigh gradient radiant -- which is why it burns like hell compared to the gel method which is actually quite benign. ( I have used both).

Gotta wonder where all the total cost for MUSE systems comes from when it is basically $12 for six sticks (plus packaging and the cute little applicator and pelletizer). Currently retail price for MUSE is $300 for 6 sticks. Let's just round it up to $5 cost for each stick so you have 1000% markup to retail.

I am kind of interested in seeing if DMSO mixed with PGE-1 into a solution would carry more of the PGE-1 subdermally than plain water. No doubt it would but I dunno if I want to sacrifice my own willie testing it out. What do you think of the side effects of DMSO being absorbed?

J
RP 2008 ... MUSE 2008-9 .. TriMix Gel 2009 .. Trimix 2009-2015 ... PGE-1 2016-2019 ..Misoprostal 2019 Onward. All worked.

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Re: Trimix gel

Postby alibaba » Tue May 10, 2016 10:08 pm

SailingHome wrote:
alibaba wrote:Never a bathmate. Do have a vacuum pump but cannot use it do to the damned tubing on top gets in a pinch and a snit.
Never tried injecting below. Does not seem to be something easy to hit.
Pharmacist friend is going to make me up some gel to try first of the week.
Thanks for the suggestions.


Did he make it for you? The polymer matrix required to make the transdermal efficient enough that low doses (read low cost at US$2k/gram) isn't easy or small batch compatible (usually.) A liter (quart) is about as small as you want to go without great equipment. The other option is DMSO, glycerine, or PEG as the transdermal, but then you need high mg of E1 (expensive)


SailingHome, I think I confused more than one post with yours. Friend ordered the ingredients to make some but the warehouse has the phentolamine on backorder. 3 weeks waiting and as of yesterday no delivery date by the warehouse. Priced it out of New York but price is 3 times + higher so still waiting.
LGX 21cm .Milam 01/13/16. Horror; both service and surgical outcome. hated infrapubic installation. Kramer revision 03/01/17. 22cm Titan +1.5cm extender. Those who think their opinion is the only one that matters are a danger to themselves and others.


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