It's really creating turmoil in the world stock market. It seems to be an overreaction to me, but how do you guys see it?
Maybe the world is afraid more countries will follow suit?
Is this mostly a result of the influx of immigrants?
How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
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Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
This explains things better for me:
Last night, against predominant expectations, the citizens of Britain voted to exit the European Union (EU). Today we are witnessing the impact of that decision on financial markets. The Pound is losing value against the U.S. dollar, European markets are declining, and we are experiencing stark declines in U.S. markets. However, we believe there are at least four reasons not to overreact to the Brexit vote and today’s market volatility:
1. The vote doesn’t actually mean anything yet.
While citizens have voted for Britain to exit the EU, the process of executing on that decision could take several years. The first thing that must happen is that the British government needs to choose to invoke a provision of the EU’s governing treaty known as Article 50, which defines the process for withdrawal. Once invoked, it sets a two-year deadline for a negotiated departure. U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has said that he will invoke the deadline immediately if the Brexit vote were to go through, although he isn’t required to do so. In fact, legally the British government is not even bound by the result of the referendum, and could choose to ignore it altogether. They are unlikely to do so, but it is possible that they could delay invoking Article 50 to allow for more time to negotiate new trade deals with the EU.
2. The Brexit vote appears to be resulting in some leadership changes, which will delay progress.
U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron was against a referendum on leaving the EU, but agreed to hold the vote if he was re-elected in 2015. He campaigned heavily for a “Remain” vote, while at the same time other members of his government campaigned for leaving. As of the time of this writing and in reaction to Thursday’s vote, Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that he will step down, which will likely mean an election. Britain could be consumed by addressing leadership within the government for weeks or months, which could postpone a decision on how to proceed.
3. All parties may have to agree.
If a deal on Britain leaving the EU can be reached within two years, it may need to be approved by all 28 member nations and possibly approved by the Parliament in Scotland, where all major parties were in favor of remaining a part of the EU. The uncertainty of how the process works is partly due to the fact that no country has ever exited the EU.
4. The outcome of leaving may be no different than staying.
The U.K. plays a prominent role in trade with EU member countries. During the two years of negotiation, it is possible that the U.K. creates similar trade unions and tariff agreements that currently exist, resulting in little-to-no impact on growth in the region. Norway is an example of a country that is not a member nation but benefits and participates from the single market of the EU.
Although we will experience volatility in the near term, it will not be due to some fundamental change in the global economy. Instead it is a reflection of increased uncertainty about the future. While we have laid out four reasons not to panic, the vote does bring increased uncertainty about Britain’s future relationship with the EU and economic growth in the near term. It is also possible that the near-term reaction to a decision to leave the EU may trigger a re-evaluation. Recall that in 2009 when the U.S. Treasury first went to Congress for a $700B bailout fund, Congress voted against the measure, sending markets into a tailspin. The decision was re-evaluated and voted on within a few days, and Congress passed the measure on the second vote.
At this moment, there are no decisions to be made from an investment standpoint. Investors should expect to see volatility in portfolios. Global equities will decline as market volatility increases. Fixed income will likely rally, offsetting some of the declines in equity markets. Multi-strategy investments like reinsurance, farmland, and life settlements will likely be unaffected by the volatility. From an economic standpoint the outcome of the referendum remains unknown. We will continue to monitor markets and the progress of Brexit; however, we remind our clients that direct exposure to developed Europe in their portfolios is underweight, based on already low expectations for growth in the near term. While uncertainty has increased, fundamentally nothing has changed yet. The next few days and possibly weeks provide an opportunity for our clients to witness in real time the benefits of a well-diversified portfolio and the impact of holding unique investments within their portfolios.
Last night, against predominant expectations, the citizens of Britain voted to exit the European Union (EU). Today we are witnessing the impact of that decision on financial markets. The Pound is losing value against the U.S. dollar, European markets are declining, and we are experiencing stark declines in U.S. markets. However, we believe there are at least four reasons not to overreact to the Brexit vote and today’s market volatility:
1. The vote doesn’t actually mean anything yet.
While citizens have voted for Britain to exit the EU, the process of executing on that decision could take several years. The first thing that must happen is that the British government needs to choose to invoke a provision of the EU’s governing treaty known as Article 50, which defines the process for withdrawal. Once invoked, it sets a two-year deadline for a negotiated departure. U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron has said that he will invoke the deadline immediately if the Brexit vote were to go through, although he isn’t required to do so. In fact, legally the British government is not even bound by the result of the referendum, and could choose to ignore it altogether. They are unlikely to do so, but it is possible that they could delay invoking Article 50 to allow for more time to negotiate new trade deals with the EU.
2. The Brexit vote appears to be resulting in some leadership changes, which will delay progress.
U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron was against a referendum on leaving the EU, but agreed to hold the vote if he was re-elected in 2015. He campaigned heavily for a “Remain” vote, while at the same time other members of his government campaigned for leaving. As of the time of this writing and in reaction to Thursday’s vote, Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that he will step down, which will likely mean an election. Britain could be consumed by addressing leadership within the government for weeks or months, which could postpone a decision on how to proceed.
3. All parties may have to agree.
If a deal on Britain leaving the EU can be reached within two years, it may need to be approved by all 28 member nations and possibly approved by the Parliament in Scotland, where all major parties were in favor of remaining a part of the EU. The uncertainty of how the process works is partly due to the fact that no country has ever exited the EU.
4. The outcome of leaving may be no different than staying.
The U.K. plays a prominent role in trade with EU member countries. During the two years of negotiation, it is possible that the U.K. creates similar trade unions and tariff agreements that currently exist, resulting in little-to-no impact on growth in the region. Norway is an example of a country that is not a member nation but benefits and participates from the single market of the EU.
Although we will experience volatility in the near term, it will not be due to some fundamental change in the global economy. Instead it is a reflection of increased uncertainty about the future. While we have laid out four reasons not to panic, the vote does bring increased uncertainty about Britain’s future relationship with the EU and economic growth in the near term. It is also possible that the near-term reaction to a decision to leave the EU may trigger a re-evaluation. Recall that in 2009 when the U.S. Treasury first went to Congress for a $700B bailout fund, Congress voted against the measure, sending markets into a tailspin. The decision was re-evaluated and voted on within a few days, and Congress passed the measure on the second vote.
At this moment, there are no decisions to be made from an investment standpoint. Investors should expect to see volatility in portfolios. Global equities will decline as market volatility increases. Fixed income will likely rally, offsetting some of the declines in equity markets. Multi-strategy investments like reinsurance, farmland, and life settlements will likely be unaffected by the volatility. From an economic standpoint the outcome of the referendum remains unknown. We will continue to monitor markets and the progress of Brexit; however, we remind our clients that direct exposure to developed Europe in their portfolios is underweight, based on already low expectations for growth in the near term. While uncertainty has increased, fundamentally nothing has changed yet. The next few days and possibly weeks provide an opportunity for our clients to witness in real time the benefits of a well-diversified portfolio and the impact of holding unique investments within their portfolios.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
Hi Tomas, Yes English and voted out, there's a whole load of things you really need to know about before you start putting us down, Do you know that the UK pays into the EU 350 millions ponds each week, its 25% of the EU budget, the UK pays far more than any other country, so that's one reason we wanted out.
I think your find if you look back this referendum should have been held well over 4 years ago, but Dave kept putting it off, as he kept saying the time was not right, which ever way you look at it the time was never going to be right, as Dave has now found out to his demise, as he has had to resign from being the UK's PM, resign to become a multi millionaire like all ex leaders do.
The next thing is immigrant's the UK just cant take anymore, because they all just want handout's and somewhere to live, it costs the UK millions each week to look after the ones we have and there is to be 20.000 coming from Syria and on the horizon is or would have been out of they say 70 million coming from Turkey of which 1 1/2 million heading for the UK and we are to put them where and who's going to pay for them, so with the EU you can see how its all getting out of hand, the EU just cant handle it anymore, and the UK cant handle as well.
There are family's waiting on UK council housing lists, there just going backwards because immigrants keep being put in front of them what a great way to upset your national's who were born in the UK, brought up there been paying tax's since they started work only to be shut out by immigrants, so non of this is doing the UK any good.
There has so much happened over the years its hard to pick one thing out, but over the last 5 to 6 years its been the migrants that have been the biggest problem for Europe and the UK, when ever this comes up, your find like us we shout send then back we don't want them, and of cause amongst them are terrorists, this has been proved, so just how many no one will ever know, so that's also a good reason for getting out, as I sit in Greece writing this, but its apart of Greece they don't come to.
Each year the EU puts out lots of new rules to be implemented, the problem is the UK follows the to the letter and the rest of Europe just takes no notice of them, these rules are put in the hands of what we call jobsworth, its go to the point where there ruthlessness of sticking to the rules has shut company's down, but they say a lot of these rules are only put out because they know the UK will stick to them, all because of the jobsworth (jobsworth, these are staff who go around looking for rules they can implement and say you have to stop doing, there answer to any questions would be cant let you carry on, its more than my jobs worth, a crazy way to carry on all because of the EU), If you look back the EU really did not want the UK in there club, because it is a club and to be in it its cost the UK millions.
I know its looking bad at the moment but just wait till things settle down, it will all get back to normal but, no one will be saying anything then you see, there threats of some company's moving out of the UK or moving big numbers of staff, but the UK is the biggest business hub of Europe if not the world, but just give it time and all will be well, time will see.
See how the UK stock exchange has bounced back and added some, just like Boris Johnson said it would. hot news today is Boris is not to stand for the PM's job, but who knows he may well come in later in the contest if he's pushed, he did a good job at being the leader of London and it was him who was behind the Olympic games in London, it become one of the most successful games.
So I now the pond will also bounce back as well.
There's a lot of world leaders all blaming any thing that's gone wrong over the last couple of days all down to the UK, shame on them, all they have had to do was sit back for a week, because things will always settle back.
And of course we have all those who want a rerun, bit like buying a lottery ticket and not winning and say that was not fair can I have my money back, its not a game its life, Scotland wants independence along with Northern Ireland all because the stay votes was higher than the rest of the UK.
But our main Problem was migrants and being told how many we must take,. even if we don't have the housing for then and the being told we have to build just for them, so instead of moving in amongst the rest of the UK it would be like an area just for them speaking there own language and being educated the same way, that is not integrating, like we know it to be.
See slowly things will get added.
NOWHARD
I'm like a stick of Southend on Sea rock, your find English written are the way through me, and did vote no way back in 75 when only 30% turned out to vote.
I think your find if you look back this referendum should have been held well over 4 years ago, but Dave kept putting it off, as he kept saying the time was not right, which ever way you look at it the time was never going to be right, as Dave has now found out to his demise, as he has had to resign from being the UK's PM, resign to become a multi millionaire like all ex leaders do.
The next thing is immigrant's the UK just cant take anymore, because they all just want handout's and somewhere to live, it costs the UK millions each week to look after the ones we have and there is to be 20.000 coming from Syria and on the horizon is or would have been out of they say 70 million coming from Turkey of which 1 1/2 million heading for the UK and we are to put them where and who's going to pay for them, so with the EU you can see how its all getting out of hand, the EU just cant handle it anymore, and the UK cant handle as well.
There are family's waiting on UK council housing lists, there just going backwards because immigrants keep being put in front of them what a great way to upset your national's who were born in the UK, brought up there been paying tax's since they started work only to be shut out by immigrants, so non of this is doing the UK any good.
There has so much happened over the years its hard to pick one thing out, but over the last 5 to 6 years its been the migrants that have been the biggest problem for Europe and the UK, when ever this comes up, your find like us we shout send then back we don't want them, and of cause amongst them are terrorists, this has been proved, so just how many no one will ever know, so that's also a good reason for getting out, as I sit in Greece writing this, but its apart of Greece they don't come to.
Each year the EU puts out lots of new rules to be implemented, the problem is the UK follows the to the letter and the rest of Europe just takes no notice of them, these rules are put in the hands of what we call jobsworth, its go to the point where there ruthlessness of sticking to the rules has shut company's down, but they say a lot of these rules are only put out because they know the UK will stick to them, all because of the jobsworth (jobsworth, these are staff who go around looking for rules they can implement and say you have to stop doing, there answer to any questions would be cant let you carry on, its more than my jobs worth, a crazy way to carry on all because of the EU), If you look back the EU really did not want the UK in there club, because it is a club and to be in it its cost the UK millions.
I know its looking bad at the moment but just wait till things settle down, it will all get back to normal but, no one will be saying anything then you see, there threats of some company's moving out of the UK or moving big numbers of staff, but the UK is the biggest business hub of Europe if not the world, but just give it time and all will be well, time will see.
See how the UK stock exchange has bounced back and added some, just like Boris Johnson said it would. hot news today is Boris is not to stand for the PM's job, but who knows he may well come in later in the contest if he's pushed, he did a good job at being the leader of London and it was him who was behind the Olympic games in London, it become one of the most successful games.
So I now the pond will also bounce back as well.
There's a lot of world leaders all blaming any thing that's gone wrong over the last couple of days all down to the UK, shame on them, all they have had to do was sit back for a week, because things will always settle back.
And of course we have all those who want a rerun, bit like buying a lottery ticket and not winning and say that was not fair can I have my money back, its not a game its life, Scotland wants independence along with Northern Ireland all because the stay votes was higher than the rest of the UK.
But our main Problem was migrants and being told how many we must take,. even if we don't have the housing for then and the being told we have to build just for them, so instead of moving in amongst the rest of the UK it would be like an area just for them speaking there own language and being educated the same way, that is not integrating, like we know it to be.
See slowly things will get added.
NOWHARD
I'm like a stick of Southend on Sea rock, your find English written are the way through me, and did vote no way back in 75 when only 30% turned out to vote.
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
I can see why your country opted out and I have no opinion on that.
I think it would be catastrophic for Germany to do it though.
They must like the trade deals they get though.
Now they are equating the vote to the rise of Donald Trump here.
I think it would be catastrophic for Germany to do it though.
They must like the trade deals they get though.
Now they are equating the vote to the rise of Donald Trump here.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
Just in case nobody knows there is a piece on here that I just keep adding to, so for some it may be worth re-reading.
Good Luck Guys
NOWHARD
Good Luck Guys
NOWHARD
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
Hi Guys if your been reading your papers you will have seen all the back stabbing that's been going on with the UK's Tory party as they fight it out to become the new PM, first to get was Boris Johnson the guy who took us out of the EU by putting up a big fight, and it was his right hand man who gave to first blow, all over a note that was not delivered dirty politics.
Suggested in the UK's Daily mail, that should be writing all this down for a book, called The Dirty Barstards, would have been a good rival to Watergate, and its not finished yet, even our Labour Party is breaking down as the want its leader to stand down for not doing enough, but he wont, what a great way to show the world how good we really are at our own politics, its political power gone mad.
Can anybody say how us coming out of the EU makes Trump think he can win, or is just the mumblings of a mad man or crazy man, crazy to be your president Our David Cameron now or soon will be an ex PM, went to university to study to become PM, then done lots of back ground work climbing his way up the Tory Party, honing he skills, then along comes Trumps lots of money and wants to run your country, running the US government is a lot harder than selling real estate, is this the guy you really want to run the USA?
NOWHARD
Suggested in the UK's Daily mail, that should be writing all this down for a book, called The Dirty Barstards, would have been a good rival to Watergate, and its not finished yet, even our Labour Party is breaking down as the want its leader to stand down for not doing enough, but he wont, what a great way to show the world how good we really are at our own politics, its political power gone mad.
Can anybody say how us coming out of the EU makes Trump think he can win, or is just the mumblings of a mad man or crazy man, crazy to be your president Our David Cameron now or soon will be an ex PM, went to university to study to become PM, then done lots of back ground work climbing his way up the Tory Party, honing he skills, then along comes Trumps lots of money and wants to run your country, running the US government is a lot harder than selling real estate, is this the guy you really want to run the USA?
NOWHARD
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
Nowhard, you ask "is this the guy you really want to run the USA?" , I don't know but I can damn sure tell you that Hillary is not what we need either. We have a horrible choice of candidates for President but I feel that Trump will cause more turmoil and destruction of the politics (our 2 political parties) that our self-serving politicians have created. Maybe we will somehow be able to turn this around, but I have my doubts. I think that we have lost America and in a few years will be a totally different country. And not for the better.
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
williamb wrote:Nowhard, you ask "is this the guy you really want to run the USA?" , I don't know but I can damn sure tell you that Hillary is not what we need either. We have a horrible choice of candidates for President but I feel that Trump will cause more turmoil and destruction of the politics (our 2 political parties) that our self-serving politicians have created. Maybe we will somehow be able to turn this around, but I have my doubts. I think that we have lost America and in a few years will be a totally different country. And not for the better.
Hi William, I have a friend through this site in the USA saying just the same as you, seems there is a lot of good American people who just don't want Trump and can see nothing but trouble ahead, was even that stunt with the English kid a trump prank, seems it took a few days to break, and now its just died a death.
He's just used his estate agent selling skills to sell himself to your country, and taken any news headlines to do it, his main problem is he shots from the hip, his mouth engages before his brain gets into gear, that's going to make him a dangerous world leader and what could be your country's leader.
Seems we both have problems, ours is getting out of hand as well.
NOWHARD
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
Hi William I see Trump keeps digging himself a hole, and it keep getting deeper, seems when he opens his mouth he shoots another hole in his foot, then he has to do some more digging.
From what we are seeing this side of the pond your about to be Clintoned again and its all down to the women's vote, seems women want to see a women as president far more that being Trumped, and some of your republican party top members would also prefer her to Trump.
Seems American politics are getting real mixed up, perhaps it needs change from anyone with a big bank balance to people with experience to run the country, trained for leadership.
NOWHARD
From what we are seeing this side of the pond your about to be Clintoned again and its all down to the women's vote, seems women want to see a women as president far more that being Trumped, and some of your republican party top members would also prefer her to Trump.
Seems American politics are getting real mixed up, perhaps it needs change from anyone with a big bank balance to people with experience to run the country, trained for leadership.
NOWHARD
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Re: How do you in England and Wales view the Brexit?
I'm glad this thread is sort of a dual thing of the Brexit and the Trump phenomena.
I had decided to sit out this election, but someone on a different chat board told me that shouldn't be done. Funny, it took someone I don't even know to get me off the dime. My wife has always been a Hillary fan, but I know that she (Hillary, not my wife) can lie with a straight face and hates to admit mistakes. Sound like most politicians? I will vote for Clinton and hope somehow the economy is something like when Bill was Pres. I know there were many extenuating circumstances that made the economy ratchet up during the last years of his presidency though.
I had decided to sit out this election, but someone on a different chat board told me that shouldn't be done. Funny, it took someone I don't even know to get me off the dime. My wife has always been a Hillary fan, but I know that she (Hillary, not my wife) can lie with a straight face and hates to admit mistakes. Sound like most politicians? I will vote for Clinton and hope somehow the economy is something like when Bill was Pres. I know there were many extenuating circumstances that made the economy ratchet up during the last years of his presidency though.
86 years
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
Inject testosterone weekly.
Implant on 1/22/19 by Dr Avila.
Scrotal, hor. incision just over 1"
18cm AMS 700 CX, 3.5cm RTE 100cc res
Gleason 6 prostate cancer. Monitoring it for now.
Update: On my last biopsies the cancer wasn't found.
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