Implant + TEP procedure Journal - 34yr old Australian

[sswinsfba]

Day 14 Update

Officially 2 weeks.

[snip]

What an amazing post!

It's a great psa (public service announcement) for men like you who suffered from peyronies and who live "down under" or on your side of the globe.

The only thing that it think is missing are the names of your surgeon & the other doc that you met but did not choose.

Don't know if you've mentioned them previously in your thread (which I have not read in its entirety) but, if not, you should because men in your situation will need to know who they are & should be forced to guess eho they are.

That said, I wish you the best and hope your recovery continues to progress as quickly as possible.

Good luck!

[aussiePeyronies]

Looking great dude! What are the two red circles in the pic? Is that what you believe to be tubing- on both sides so far up? That looks like about the spot where you could feel your reservoir, but that would only be on one side, not on both sides like you've circled.

Yeah man, I have circled where I can feel something, not sure what it is, but it wasn't there before. I just assumed it was tubing. It is sort of sticking out, this could be due to swelling though.

[aussiePeyronies]

Day 14 Update

Officially 2 weeks.

[snip]

What an amazing post!

It's a great psa (public service announcement) for men like you who suffered from peyronies and who live "down under" or on your side of the globe.

The only thing that it think is missing are the names of your surgeon & the other doc that you met but did not choose.

Don't know if you've mentioned them previously in your thread (which I have not read in its entirety) but, if not, you should because men in your situation will need to know who they are & should be forced to guess eho they are.

That said, I wish you the best and hope your recovery continues to progress as quickly as possible.

Good luck!

Thanks my friend, the other doc was Prof Eric Chung, I still think he may be a skilled surgeon, although, the way he rushed me out of his office, had me second guessing. A lot of members here have used him with success. He does not offer the TEP procedure otherwise I may have considered him as he practices in my state (would have saved me travelling interstate).

[aussiePeyronies]

Asseepeyronies
Thanks for the updates glad it’s working out for you, Your junk looks great and it all will be good, give it a year. And most guys like circumcised cocks don’t be pulled into another cut no cut debate it’s settled.
Cheers mate its all good, time to relax

Cheers mate, appreciate your kind words and support. I'm trying not to think too much about the cut v not cut. I've heard pros n cons for both but I decided to go this route as, being cut meant that the doc could fully deglove my penis and see where else required remodelling. Further, he was able to perform the TEP all the way throughout the penis resulting in extra restoration of length/girth.

[aussiePeyronies]

Asseepeyronies
Thanks for the updates glad it’s working out for you, Your junk looks great and it all will be good, give it a year. And most guys like circumcised cocks don’t be pulled into another cut no cut debate it’s settled.
Cheers mate its all good, time to relax

Cheers mate, appreciate your kind words and support. I'm trying not to think too much about the cut v not cut. I've heard pros n cons for both but I decided to go this route as, being cut meant that the doc could fully deglove my penis and see where else required remodelling. Further, he was able to perform the TEP all the way throughout the penis resulting in extra restoration of length/girth.

[aussiePeyronies]

I think the biggest disservice done to you was that nobody informed you of the negative effects of circumcision.

I would rather have a 4 inch highly sensitive, smooth, moist penis with gliding, than a 6 inch numb, rough, dry one with no gliding.

Thanks mate, while I can't do much now as I have already been cut, I am interested to here your pros n cons on the matter. I have heard pros n cons for both.

[Bwtbbb]

I think the biggest disservice done to you was that nobody informed you of the negative effects of circumcision.

I would rather have a 4 inch highly sensitive, smooth, moist penis with gliding, than a 6 inch numb, rough, dry one with no gliding.

Thanks mate, while I can't do much now as I have already been cut, I am interested to here your pros n cons on the matter. I have heard pros n cons for both.

Unfortunately the only pro is that you will last longer (because you feel much, much less pleasurable sensation), which is not very relevant for implantees. All other pros have been debunked, such as STI risks.

Sensation will be very little especially as time goes on because the previously sensitive parts keratinize from air exposure and friction, which blocks pleasurable sensation. Imagine what would happen to your eye if your eyelid was cut off, or your tongue if it was permanently exposed. They become dry and rough. This keratinization is what allows you to wear underwear comfortably after some time following the operation, because the sensitivity is gone. Whereas immediately after circumcision it is uncomfortable to walk with underwear because the sensitive parts have not yet keratinized. Also the most sensitive parts have been completely cut off. Google Image search "circumcised parts sensitivity" and the first result shows what the most sensitive parts are, which are completely removed with circumcision.

There is also the removal of the gliding mechanism which will probably be missed.

Those who disagree with the lack of sensation have either been cut at birth (so they have no idea what they're missing) or are lying to themselves to cope. I was cut later in life.

[aussiePeyronies]

I think the biggest disservice done to you was that nobody informed you of the negative effects of circumcision.

I would rather have a 4 inch highly sensitive, smooth, moist penis with gliding, than a 6 inch numb, rough, dry one with no gliding.

Thanks mate, while I can't do much now as I have already been cut, I am interested to here your pros n cons on the matter. I have heard pros n cons for both.

Unfortunately the only pro is that you will last longer (because you feel much, much less pleasurable sensation), which is not very relevant for implantees. All other pros have been debunked, such as STI risks.

Sensation will be very little especially as time goes on because the previously sensitive parts keratinize from air exposure and friction, which blocks pleasurable sensation. Imagine what would happen to your eye if your eyelid was cut off, or your tongue if it was permanently exposed. They become dry and rough. This keratinization is what allows you to wear underwear comfortably after some time following the operation, because the sensitivity is gone. Whereas immediately after circumcision it is uncomfortable to walk with underwear because the sensitive parts have not yet keratinized. Also the most sensitive parts have been completely cut off. Google Image search "circumcised parts sensitivity" and the first result shows what the most sensitive parts are, which are completely removed with circumcision.

There is also the removal of the gliding mechanism which will probably be missed.

Those who disagree with the lack of sensation have either been cut at birth (so they have no idea what they're missing) or are lying to themselves to cope. I was cut later in life.

It's interesting you say this, I have heard this, then I have also heard that being cut makes being inside a woman's vagina more sensitive as the sensatons are more experienced by the glans of the penis. Then have also read people restoring their foreskin via stretching, and some who have said that they found no difference in sex circumsized/non-circumsized. Again, I guess, there's not much I can do now. Thanks for your input.

If anyone has any other info regarding sex after adult circumsision, I am very interested.

[aussiePeyronies]

Day 17 Update:

Although there isn't really much to update, being locked in a hotel room with nothing to do, on pain killers, writing this journal is somewhat soothing. Letting out my thoughts and expressing myself.

Swelling and pain is down, albeit, in the slightest. In 4 days they are going to deflate me a little so I can get on a plane.

Does anyone have experience with initial deflation? My doctor is on holiday and he has left it up to the nurse to deflate me a bit for comfort, and so I can get on a plane. I think due to TEP, I will still be inflated a little for up to 6 weeks. I am worried that, if the nurse is inexperienced and deflates me too much, it will compromise the TEP.

Mentally I am struggling a bit, I am someone who is in the gym everyday, reading books, working on self-development. At the moment I can barely move, and its difficult to concentrate on reading considering I am on narcotics.

I have been thinking a lot about my decision, realising that every 5-10 years (maybe more, maybe less), I will have to go through this process again, although, quite possibly less painful and a quicker recovery, and less expensive. Risk of infection will still be there each time. I'm 34, if I live till 74, that could be 5-10 revisions required. Something to consider for the younger guys, I think the youngest guy I spoke to was a 20 year old who had peyronies, also from Australia.

Some other things I have been thinking, the trade off between not being able to get a natural erection, the intimacy of a woman touching you and feeling your penis grow, spooning in the morning and having your gf wake up to your hard erection. These things can be a very intimate part of a relationship. This in trade for an erection which can stay up as long as required, which also can have it's benefits. Is it worth it? In my case, yes. I got to a point where I couldn't have sex without the implant. I will till miss that intimate feeling of waking up to a woman touching me and my erection growing, and women themselves love touching you and seeing your erection grow, it reassures them that you're attracted to them, makes them feel sexy, and powerful.

Now, I've been thinking a lot about disclosure. A lot of women that are older 40+ I feel are a lot more understanding to Erectyle dysfunction, they have dated men with ED, some have health complications themselves, they understand. Younger women, in their 20s, some make fun of men who can't get an erection. I know some who, if you told them you have to pump up your penis from your scrotum, would call you an old man. I know some who, if you told them you had a bionic penis, they would laugh and call you a cyborg. Now, these aren't the type of women you want to ever date or be around. But, could this influence the decision of someone in their 20s who wants to get an implant but can still have sex with pills/injections? Possibly. Having one night stands and trying to pump discreetly in itself each time can prove to be difficult and laborious.

I just want the younger guys to realise that, an implant is a good option, but if your peyronies/ED isn't to the point where you can't have sex, consider VED/Traction first perhaps. Especially, if you are not yet in a financial position to afford one of the top surgeons. Consider, the amount of revisions required, the recovery, costs, risks of infections. I myself am a bit worried about my 2.5cm RTEs causing a wobbly erection. I was talking to someone who had 3.5cm RTEs and he does have a bit of a wobbly erection, he can mitigate this by pumping harder, however, that ends up being too hard for sex. Choosing a top surgeon is very vital to receiving a top result, and in Australia we are very limited. After 4 years of peyronies and spending 15k on surgery, the pain of recovery, I would want to have sex without having to worry about a wobbly erection slipping out of a woman's vagina (common in cowgirl position).

Now, I know I am stuck in a hotel room with nothing to do, inflated, only able to lay on my back and my mind may be wondering off into negative thoughts. 4 years of peyronies and I have passed on quite a few attractive females, I am looking forward to getting back out there and exploring the dating scene and sharing intimacy with women. My depression from peyronies affected other areas of my life, my career/study took a hit, general mental health, social life. I became a bit of a recluse, and I am starting to realise that it's time to come out of that isolated shell I put myself in. I have forgotten how to date, make friends, be social again.

Wish there was a group or club here in Australia for us implanted guys where we could get together and share our experiences, discuss dating, doctors, support each other. Mens mental health is already a subject which isn't talked about enough. Not many people can talk about peyronies either, most doctors even rush you out of their office. I can see some men here who are younger and don't have access to all this information, money for surgery, pills, VED/traction etc eventually falling close to suicide.

I received a message from a member today which was quite thought provoking, he told me that, some Australian doctors will use excessive RTEs as, they do not perform implant surgery in high volumes in comparison to Eid, Perito etc, so if they need to throw out an implant to install another one, it is too costly for them. Thus, they will use RTEs where necessary, avoid having to use multiple implants during one surgery.

Some things to think about I guess, when choosing surgeons in Australia.

Keep in mind, this is all written while in a hotel room, barely able to walk, in immense pain. 4 months from now I may write up a post telling you all how this has been an amazing experience and I recommend everyone to do the same. Keep in mind though, that the risks will always still be there.

Very interested in anyone else thoughts, especially younger guys, and members from Australia.

J

[Hillywilly]

Day 17 Update:

Younger women, in their 20s, some make fun of men who can't get an erection I know some who, if you told them you have to pump up your penis from your scrotum, would call you an old man. I know some who, if you told them you had a bionic penis, they would laugh and call you a cyborg. Now, these aren't the type of women you want to ever date or be around.

J

Have women in their 20's actually told you they would be turned off by an implant? That would suck as I have no interest in dating a 40+. I am 33 but Minnesota here on FT is 27 and has had a different experience with casual sex with younger women:

"Today marks 11 weeks and 2 days (79 days total) since I had my surgery. Since my last update at 8.5 weeks, I have been sexually active with two people, including an ex gf! Lol. I’ve had sex with 5 different girls now since being implanted. 1 of them let me go for an hour. This is not only a cure for ED, but if you’re prone to cumming quickly as well, there’s no stopping you until you want to! Also, not saying that’s cool to sleep with 5 girls or that it is a lot, just want to give these details because I think back to how it felt when I used to be able to have sex with my past gfs, or random hookups whenever I wanted. Just feeling extremely confident like how us males were designed to be. Attract women and Vice verse, reproduce, etc. Then have it all stolen from you. It’s was a terrible 9 years dealing with it. However, things have changed dramatically. I haven’t been trying to have sex or anything, just being myself and getting out there to the bars and stuff. The difference now versus then is my confidence and libido. I actually have my eyes open for sex, not shy away from it. Before I didn’t have that and now I do.

I find that when showering with guys at work or the hockey rink, I feel slightly off thinking they might think I have a chub, but I now believe I was overthinking because I’ve asked multiple friends now and all they said it just looks like I’m hung, but not a chubby. I did have two concerns to address to my Doctors I will mention that might help others here.. here’s what I bright up to them.

1.) my flaccid hangs to the left, especially in my tighter work pants because it’s forced to go one way or the other, which creates a dog ear on one side. The constant pushing my penis to the left has caused it to really hang that way on its own now. I was concerned this would possibly cause wear and tear on the one side of the cyclinder being it’s just to that one side constantly.

- it would not cause more wear and tear and it’s fine.

2.) second concern was that my head/glans are slightly softer and floppy during sex.

- Prescribed me a cialis pill 5mg daily which will help bring more blood flow to the glans and also even help with any sensitivity and feeling I may have lost. I don’t feel I lost any, but it definitely did help my glans during sex.

I am back to all activities. I workout however I want besides a few exercises where I may feel it more in the reservoir area. I use my implant everyday, so I am a high volume user for sure. As much as I only want to use it just a few days a week to help the life of my implant (if that truly even helps) I can’t find myself doing it and most likely won’t as I am loving this way too much. Best thing that’s happened to me and I hope it lasts me for many years. I haven’t measured but obviously my flaccid is way bigger, and I think my erection
Is slightly bigger now, definitely more girth. none of the young women he has had casual sex with have seemed to mind. Personally I would have no interest in dating a woman over 40 so hopefully thats not the case."