Stronger Formula Trimix

[Oldboy]

I use 100 mg Viagra + 20 mcg Caverject.
Could you explain to me your use of alprostadil monomix?
Thank you

I don't know if you have access to it in Italy. It's basically the Caverject or Edex except it comes from a compounding pharmacy and is made in the that pharmacy.

The ingredients are basically just alprostadil and bacteriostatic water, similar to Caverject and Edex except it can be made to whatever strength the doctor will write it for. It comes already in the liquid form and must be frozen or it will lose potency fairly quickly. I use small diabetic type needles and draw it up from the vial. I'm fortunate that my pharmacy dispenses my 10ml script in ten 1ml vials which I keep frozen.

The small diabetic syringes, in my case 31 gauge, .3cc, 8mm are much easier to use than the Edex cartridges (Edex is what I used originally). For me the compounded mono-mix is MUCH CHEAPER than the Edex.

I also like that I can get it in stronger mixes than what is offered by Edex and I believe Caverject. My mix is 80mcg/ml of alprostadil so I don't have to inject very much volume of mix. I do have to inject it slower due to it's potency to avoid pain.
Good luck.

Thank you.
Could I know how much of alprostadil mcg do you put in tour injections?

[Steve_ED]

That’s good info …. Thanks … currently I have it in the fridge.

[bldoink]

Could I know how much of alprostadil mcg do you put in your injections?

Sure, I'm averaging 12 mcg of alprostadil delivered in 15 units (.15ml) of a 80 mcg/ml mix. This is supplemented with a silicone cock ring worn behind the boys and usually 50mg of generic sildenafil. Without the ring or pill I'd have to up it some to probably 17 mcg.

At one time I used more but with experience and time I've been able to reduce my dose. I started out on Edex 20 and was using the whole cartridge. Actually I first tried the Edex 10s but they didn't do the job and immediately jumped to the Edex 20s until my insurance decided to no longer cover Edex. The insurance doesn't cover the locally compounded mono-mix either but it works out to be cheap enough per dose that I don't care. The latest batch did jump in price to $145 for the 10ml dispensed in 10 one ml vials.

I should clarify. I'm actually currently at 17 units of my 2.5 year old mix. I'm guessing the small increase is due to it's age. I'll know in a week if that's the case as I'll then be on a fresh newly purchased mix.

[Oldboy]

Could I know how much of alprostadil mcg do you put in your injections?

Sure, I'm averaging 12 mcg of alprostadil delivered in 15 units (.15ml) of a 80 mcg/ml mix. This is supplemented with a silicone cock ring worn behind the boys and usually 50mg of generic sildenafil. Without the ring or pill I'd have to up it some to probably 17 mcg.

At one time I used more but with experience and time I've been able to reduce my dose. I started out on Edex 20 and was using the whole cartridge. Actually I first tried the Edex 10s but they didn't do the job and immediately jumped to the Edex 20s until my insurance decided to no longer cover Edex. The insurance doesn't cover the locally compounded mono-mix either but it works out to be cheap enough per dose that I don't care. The latest batch did jump in price to $145 for the 10ml dispensed in 10 one ml vials.

I should clarify. I'm actually currently at 17 units of my 2.5 year old mix. I'm guessing the small increase is due to it's age. I'll know in a week if that's the case as I'll then be on a fresh newly purchased mix.

I use caveject prefilled cartridges. 20 mcg. What's the difference with the amount you inject?

[bldoink]

The equivalent of my dose would be 60% of your Caverject 20. That's .6ml (60 units) of the Caverject 20 mix. My mix is four times as strong as a Caverject 20 so I use 15% of my 1ml vial. That's .15ml (15 units) of my 80mcg per ml mix. I get my mix in the form of ten 1ml vials. I like it in the 1ml vials because I can keep most of them hard frozen in the back of the freezer and the one I'm using out of toward the front of the freezer.

No guarantee my math is correct.

[Steve_ED]

Thank you Martin. I have since gotten a stronger formula. The Urologist started me at half of what is in my signature. I can tell more consistent results now. But I think I may need the next higher formula still. I at am about 50 ML with my current formula. Would be nice to cut that in half. I could be wrong, but I was thinking that my inconsistent results were somewhat because of the weak formula I had. I do miss the spot sometimes still. Although there have been a few times, I thought I missed and still had some effect. I also seem to get different results depending on which side I inject. And I guess I am still learning the best place to inject. When I first started injecting, I did not get good results at about the 11 oclock position. But now, I seem to get fairly good results at that position. I will get pretty good results with one dose and then the next time I use that dose, I do not get good results. Again, I am thinking maybe some of that is because of the weak formula I had. Although, I am not so sure my current formula would be considered strong either. I have another urologist appt in July (the urologist that prescribed me trimix has retired). I am hoping he will prescribe me a stronger formula. I like the idea of only having to inject .20 to .30 ML if the formula will allow me to do that.

[Martin6469]

Steve: I've consistently (for years) needed around ten percent less Trimix in one side than in the other. This gave me inconsistent results as I was learning, because I was following the advice to alternate sides each time, until I made a spreadsheet to keep track of all the injection parameters.

So I advise beginners to work with one side, titrating up to the optimum dose, and then repeating with the other side.

[Steve_ED]

Thanks Martin …

[Oldboy]

The equivalent of my dose would be 60% of your Caverject 20. That's .6ml (60 units) of the Caverject 20 mix. My mix is four times as strong as a Caverject 20 so I use 15% of my 1ml vial. That's .15ml (15 units) of my 80mcg per ml mix. I get my mix in the form of ten 1ml vials. I like it in the 1ml vials because I can keep most of them hard frozen in the back of the freezer and the one I'm using out of toward the front of the freezer.

No guarantee my math is correct.

Thanks.
Any idea how put two 10mcg prefilled caverject in a single syringe?

[bldoink]

Thanks.
Any idea how put two 10mcg prefilled caverject in a single syringe?

I have no experience with Caverject.

In violation of the package insert instructions I have used diabetic syringes to "decant" the contents of an Edex cartridge into the normal diabetic syringes. First I mixed (reconstituted) the Edex cartridge as per instructions. I then removed the Edex needle and drew up the contents with the diabetic syringe through the rubber plug the Edex needle originally went through. Fairly easy! I did this with Edex 40 cartridges and was able to get 2 to 3 doses (depending on intended use) from the Edex 40. I froze the 1 or 2 doses in syringes that I didn't immediately use. This was clearly a violation of the official instructions. These doses had the desired effect and my dick hasn't fallen off, yet.

What you're wanting to do is a bit different. Instead of breaking down a Caverject cartridge dose into multiple doses you're wanting to combine 2 Caverject doses into a single larger dose. You should be able to use pretty much the same process.

However, I see two or maybe a few complicating issues. 1st you're going to end up with a dose that while not particularly strong will be large in volume. If you use the 2 full caverject doses you'll have a 2ml dose by volume to inject.

A 2ml dose is not a bad thing in itself except you'll have to use a much larger syringe. A syringe with a capacity larger than 2ml. A 3ml syringes would probably be good. It will not have the useful U-100 insulin markings. It will be in fractions of milliliters. But if you're using the whole 2 Caverject cartridges the markings may not be important. Then you'll need needles.

I'd try 1/2" 30 gauge needles but they may bend too easily when working with such a large syringe. You'll have to experiment with that. You'll probably want to use 2 needles as you'll be going through 2 rubber plugs before injecting. This will likely dull the needle and will certainly be wiping off the lubrication a quality needle will be coated with. So after drawing up your dose I'd change the needle before injecting.

None of the above should be considered medical advice. I'm not remotely qualified to give medical advice, or any other advice for that matter. What I shared is certainly a violation of the Edex and likely the Caverject instructions. Never trust internet forum advice. It was free and likely not worth even that much. Always ask your doctor and follow his/her advice.