Think about this for a second. If I could guarantee sterility, how much would I have to pay you to let me slice open your sac and stick a 3/4 inch rubber ball in it? Would you do it for $1000? No way! Would you do it for $10,000? No way! Would you do it for $1,000,000? Sure! Sign me up! How about $50,000? Mmm. Maybe.... OK, Let's say $50,000 for the pain and suffering and side effects...
How much is the surgery for an implant? Let's say $20,000.
I'm 58. How many times will I use the thing from now until age 78? 1 time per week? If I am lucky. 1 time per month? Let's say once every 2 weeks or 25 times a year. Over 20 years that is 500 times. So, assuming i have a willing partner from now until age 78. I am paying 50000/500 or $100 per event for pain and suffering and $40 per event for the installation. Total $140 per romp!
I can orgasm now without an erection and it feels quite nice. At $140 per romp I can buy a new dildo for her every time for 1/3 the price and still be far ahead.
I'm married 36 years to a wife my age. I'm pretty sure I will never be a porn star. i can orgasm now. And my tongue still works.
So tell me again, why I am seeing the ED implant doc on Monday?
Jeff
Or am I just making an excuse because I am scared to death of the thing?
Economics of an Implant
-
- Posts: 28
- Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:40 pm
Economics of an Implant
Last edited by Worried Guy on Sun Oct 16, 2011 7:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Age 56, Gleason 3+4, BX 7/12 up to 70%, PSA 23 at DX May '09.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
Re: Economics of an Implant
Jeff,
I think you're going to be surprised at the frequency of use once you have "erections on demand". As someone on this site has wisely said, it's like being 19 again without the stupid. Most of us here are well versed is utilizing all of the alternatives you mentioned. However, whether you're by yourself or with someone, I think you're going to find that there's nothing so sensual as a raging hard-on.
So, IMHO, it's the latter--just a case of nerves. Your concerns are legitimate of course, but please don't skip your appointment. Get all the info you can and then make your decision when you're ready. And then be happy with whatever you decide. You know you have all of our support no matter what.
Greg
I think you're going to be surprised at the frequency of use once you have "erections on demand". As someone on this site has wisely said, it's like being 19 again without the stupid. Most of us here are well versed is utilizing all of the alternatives you mentioned. However, whether you're by yourself or with someone, I think you're going to find that there's nothing so sensual as a raging hard-on.
So, IMHO, it's the latter--just a case of nerves. Your concerns are legitimate of course, but please don't skip your appointment. Get all the info you can and then make your decision when you're ready. And then be happy with whatever you decide. You know you have all of our support no matter what.
Greg
Born 1948, wed 1969. BPH & Type II Diabetes at age 35. TURP-2002; ED even before that--diabetes. Cardiac valve surgery: 2007 & 2019. Poor results with pills. Started trimix injections in Nov, 2010. Great results from the very beginning.
-
- Posts: 1212
- Joined: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:44 pm
- Contact:
Re: Economics of an Implant
Jeff, I will not pay out of pocket for an implant. Just me im too cheap. If insurance would pay I would be in line for the new toy for sure.
I hear your fear speaking loud and clear. Take a deep breath. I agree with you.. I don't think I will make it to Porn Star status any time soon,.
The other Jeff
I hear your fear speaking loud and clear. Take a deep breath. I agree with you.. I don't think I will make it to Porn Star status any time soon,.
The other Jeff
68 years old, Married 48 years. Prostate Cancer surgery 11 years ago. Tried Pills, VED, moved to injections (EdEx) for past 6 years. Implanted with AMS 700 LGX by Dr Hellstrom in New Orleans at Tulane Medical. 1/13/20
Re: Economics of an Implant
It's like we talked about, think about factoring in every time you pee, you pull out jr. and have to see him in that way,sadly now just a drain tube (with some feeling!). So, you just counted the number of times you will have or might like to have intercourse. Add in the number of times you might pee till age 78 that you will have to look at the poor little guy. 20x365x~6=43800 times you have see him that way,what could that be worth. $0.01 each time, nah, maybe $1.00 nah, too much. maybe $0.25, heck that would be $10,950. Plus there is undeniable entertrainment value everytime you blow the thing up and see it take on a life of it's own. Priceless.
Ron
Ron
age 74 married, Robotic RP Dec.2009. Implanted Jan 2011 with AMS 700LGX and AMS 800 AUS. (AMS 1500). IPP failed March 2018 , leak. Planning an AUS revision (total replacement) in 2018, now I need the IPP too.
-
- Posts: 1212
- Joined: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:44 pm
- Contact:
Re: Economics of an Implant
Ron your a hoot!
Cajun Jeff
Cajun Jeff
68 years old, Married 48 years. Prostate Cancer surgery 11 years ago. Tried Pills, VED, moved to injections (EdEx) for past 6 years. Implanted with AMS 700 LGX by Dr Hellstrom in New Orleans at Tulane Medical. 1/13/20
Re: Economics of an Implant
Is the full satisfaction out of your only life not worth it? My implant has been life changing.
Diagnosed with ED at age of 19, Implanted with Coloplast Titan at age 20. Now 34 (2023)
Titan failed 09/2020, replaced on 10/2/2020 by Kolher @ Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
Titan failed 09/2020, replaced on 10/2/2020 by Kolher @ Mayo Clinic in Minnesota
-
- Posts: 28
- Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:40 pm
Re: Economics of an Implant
Guys,
Thanks for the words of wisdom. The advice is much more valuable since it comes from guys who have been through it.
I am "pumped" for my meeting with the doc tomorrow!
And Ron,
You're right. I'd easily pay 50 cents to see a little more meat twixt my thighs whenever I peed. It's bit like driving a Corvette. Even though you'll never take it to 180 mph, it is nice to know it can.
I'll let you all know what happens.
Jeff
Thanks for the words of wisdom. The advice is much more valuable since it comes from guys who have been through it.
I am "pumped" for my meeting with the doc tomorrow!
And Ron,
You're right. I'd easily pay 50 cents to see a little more meat twixt my thighs whenever I peed. It's bit like driving a Corvette. Even though you'll never take it to 180 mph, it is nice to know it can.
I'll let you all know what happens.
Jeff
Age 56, Gleason 3+4, BX 7/12 up to 70%, PSA 23 at DX May '09.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
Re: Economics of an Implant
Worried Guy,
I can assure you of one thing. My new toy has my wife of 35 years like a
kid in a candy shop. She just can not keep her hands off of it.
Her excitement has been worth every penny!
Being inside her when she has that BIG "O" is totally priceless.
I didn't realize just how good that feels. I have totally missed it for way
to many years.
My pain and discomfort was really pretty mild.
Best of luck to you!
I can assure you of one thing. My new toy has my wife of 35 years like a
kid in a candy shop. She just can not keep her hands off of it.
Her excitement has been worth every penny!
Being inside her when she has that BIG "O" is totally priceless.
I didn't realize just how good that feels. I have totally missed it for way
to many years.
My pain and discomfort was really pretty mild.
Best of luck to you!
67 yr's young. Loving wife and 4 children 7 grandchildren. Type II diabetic for 9 years. Could retire but love my job and the people I work for. Pills, Pumps & Injections all failed. Implanted on 9/2/11. I am now "Bionic":)
Re: Economics of an Implant
Worried Guy. Well I'm a bit late with my post. From an economic point of view, you made very common sense. Are you an accountant? But when it comes to a sex life, a hard penis and being able to satisfy a partner ... I went from a depressed, worried, under-stimulated guy to an all-out horn doggy after getting my wonderful new gift. Isn't that a bit PRICELESS? The constant smile on my face nowadays makes people ask what I've been up to!
LGX_Man (Keith)
LGX_Man (Keith)
62. Retired. AMS 700 LGX implanted Nov. 18, 2013. Ask me any questions about being implanted or life afterwards.
-
- Posts: 28
- Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:40 pm
Re: Economics of an Implant
Guys,
Thanks for your help and encouragement.
Yesterday, I had my first consult with the ED specialist for University Urology. I used the list of questions from Scot K and modified them to better match my case. I also measured my size beforehand, both flaccid and erect with VED, and the Doc asked for a copy of my numbers. I was ready.
The Doc is well versed in the procedure and has done somewhere in the order of 700 of these. The most in NYS. He uses the AMS 700 LGX as recommended by you guys and my online research. Every person is different and the approach must be modified for each.1) I am not a big guy. 2) Perfect BMI - not much body fat. 3) I have a mesh across my abdomen due to two large indirect hernias 4) I have a sling. 5) Had a large prostate and quite bit of material had to be removed. So....
He will do a separate cut and go in pubicly to install the reservoir. He says I will feel the bulb most of the time. I will ask the guys about it.
Before I can do this I must do three things:
1) Try Muse at 1000 ug and try Muse with 1000ug and Cialis at 20 mg. That will show i have tried everything.
2) Meet with the AMS rep in the office. Then they will schedule surgery.
3) Continue to use the VED daily.
I am not rushing into this. I'll do it when I am ready and do not have such a busy workload. If it happens early next year and I need to pay a copay, so be it. I figure I'll be heating my house with a different kind of wood.
Thanks for your help,
Jeff
Thanks for your help and encouragement.
Yesterday, I had my first consult with the ED specialist for University Urology. I used the list of questions from Scot K and modified them to better match my case. I also measured my size beforehand, both flaccid and erect with VED, and the Doc asked for a copy of my numbers. I was ready.
The Doc is well versed in the procedure and has done somewhere in the order of 700 of these. The most in NYS. He uses the AMS 700 LGX as recommended by you guys and my online research. Every person is different and the approach must be modified for each.1) I am not a big guy. 2) Perfect BMI - not much body fat. 3) I have a mesh across my abdomen due to two large indirect hernias 4) I have a sling. 5) Had a large prostate and quite bit of material had to be removed. So....
He will do a separate cut and go in pubicly to install the reservoir. He says I will feel the bulb most of the time. I will ask the guys about it.
Before I can do this I must do three things:
1) Try Muse at 1000 ug and try Muse with 1000ug and Cialis at 20 mg. That will show i have tried everything.
2) Meet with the AMS rep in the office. Then they will schedule surgery.
3) Continue to use the VED daily.
I am not rushing into this. I'll do it when I am ready and do not have such a busy workload. If it happens early next year and I need to pay a copay, so be it. I figure I'll be heating my house with a different kind of wood.
Thanks for your help,
Jeff
Age 56, Gleason 3+4, BX 7/12 up to 70%, PSA 23 at DX May '09.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
RP by DaVinci on July 21, '09 Both nerves gone. Incontinent.
Sling installed 1/2011 Works great. Now to fix ED.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 207 guests